The grace & beauty of the Steed Mundus Stone on a tank

Fellwitch · April 2019

So I have been leveling up a templar tank for a while now, and I have always been a bit dismayed when logging back onto my other tank characters as they seemed to move much slower and less fluid than my templar.

Finally I realized that perhaps there is a reason why my templar actually moves so much better and then I checked the character sheet and noticed that I have been playing around 50 lvls with the Steed instead of something else...

My resistances are capped, health is ok, magic pool ok with regen of like 1600, and I have shield block cost enchants...So I was thinking...Why even remove the Steed? The 10% speed feels absolutely wonderful, and combine the 10% along with the increased movement speed with blocking (1h & shield) and it almost feels like normal walking speed when avoiding dungeon mechanics.... Maybe if I did Trials I would need to adjust things but I only run vet dungeons.

Gotta say, if your stats are good, I highly recommend putting the Steed on your tank.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2019

Did this a while ago on my dk tank. So nice to be in the front all the time

idk · April 2019

For lighter content like 4 man dungeons one can pretty much do as they please.

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2019

On any content my dude. I will never look back. The steed is just amazing. Vet add pulls to vcr it is so much fun ZoS will probably nerf

Oreyn_Bearclaw · April 2019

Most of my characters run the steed most of the time. If not running vet content or PVP, it really is the best stone. Not like I need the shadow to kill mudcrabs or do writs. Haha

Iskiab · April 2019

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Most of my characters run the steed most of the time. If not running vet content or PVP, it really is the best stone. Not like I need the shadow to kill mudcrabs or do writs. Haha

It’s just as good if not better in pvp.

profundidob16_ESO · April 2019

I would love to run the Steed Mundus just for vCR tanking alone already but then I realize that the 300 magicka regen from Atronach mundus is just 10 times better

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2019

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

I would love to run the Steed Mundus just for vCR tanking alone already but then I realize that the 300 magicka regen from Atronach mundus is just 10 times better

balance?

MartiniDaniels · April 2019

Given that you sit in twisting path most of the time on tank, i don't feel any lack of speed in combat. For faster movement between encounters you may slot rapids and then change them back before boss fight. On the other hand lose of 240 base recovery is massive and noticeable.
Wherever I forget to switch mundus back on tank after overland/PVP, it's not end of the day, but all that endless flow of sustain you are used too is screwed immediately, you need to overcast balance which leads to HP drops and lower debuff uptimes etc.. or you need to chain/range taunt less mobs etc.. so yeah, it's easily manageable by the loss of efficiency and for 10% speed increase which is barely noticeable if not stacked with other speed buffs.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2019

@MartiniDaniels I haven't seen a magblade DPS in the group finder since they gutted refreshing path and funnel health. No idea were you get the idea twisting is always there.

MartiniDaniels · April 2019

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@MartiniDaniels I haven't seen a magblade DPS in the group finder since they gutted refreshing path and funnel health. No idea were you get the idea twisting is always there.

Well, you are right, i mostly spoke of trials. Even before they gutted it, magblades in dungeons were quite rate, it's mostly magsorcs and stamblades out there. Though as magblade I don't feel underpowered or anything, yep other classes are better in aoe, but at ST and execution when all combat field is burning so you just stand in only safe patch and send 50-70k impales, it's cool.

profundidob16_ESO · April 2019

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

I would love to run the Steed Mundus just for vCR tanking alone already but then I realize that the 300 magicka regen from Atronach mundus is just 10 times better

balance?

no, just no

Oakmontowls_ESO · April 2019

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

I would love to run the Steed Mundus just for vCR tanking alone already but then I realize that the 300 magicka regen from Atronach mundus is just 10 times better

balance?

no, just no

Why not?

Iskiab · April 2019

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@MartiniDaniels I haven't seen a magblade DPS in the group finder since they gutted refreshing path and funnel health. No idea were you get the idea twisting is always there.

I ended up going magblade healer. Are they rare too? If I’m magicka I’d rather heal a dungeon for shorter queue times.

I’m asking because I’m curious, I stopped doing vets once I had all the helms in each weight.

Grandma · April 2019

Iskiab wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@MartiniDaniels I haven't seen a magblade DPS in the group finder since they gutted refreshing path and funnel health. No idea were you get the idea twisting is always there.

I ended up going magblade healer. Are they rare too? If I’m magicka I’d rather heal a dungeon for shorter queue times.

I’m asking because I’m curious, I stopped doing vets once I had all the helms in each weight.

very. nobody really plays healblade, especially in vet trials. normal dungeons? sure. but achievements and vtrials will meet struggle there. there just isn't enough utility, albeit the speed boost in question is one of their main pros.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2019

Iskiab wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@MartiniDaniels I haven't seen a magblade DPS in the group finder since they gutted refreshing path and funnel health. No idea were you get the idea twisting is always there.

I ended up going magblade healer. Are they rare too? If I’m magicka I’d rather heal a dungeon for shorter queue times.

I’m asking because I’m curious, I stopped doing vets once I had all the helms in each weight.

yes, healblades are rare, hardly ever any other class but warden and templars. only thing i ask is to make sure you have orbs.

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@MartiniDaniels I haven't seen a magblade DPS in the group finder since they gutted refreshing path and funnel health. No idea were you get the idea twisting is always there.

Well, you are right, i mostly spoke of trials. Even before they gutted it, magblades in dungeons were quite rate, it's mostly magsorcs and stamblades out there. Though as magblade I don't feel underpowered or anything, yep other classes are better in aoe, but at ST and execution when all combat field is burning so you just stand in only safe patch and send 50-70k impales, it's cool.

fair enough.

Tasear · April 2019

Iskiab wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@MartiniDaniels I haven't seen a magblade DPS in the group finder since they gutted refreshing path and funnel health. No idea were you get the idea twisting is always there.

I ended up going magblade healer. Are they rare too? If I’m magicka I’d rather heal a dungeon for shorter queue times.

I’m asking because I’m curious, I stopped doing vets once I had all the helms in each weight.

Very rare, I think I see more DK healers now over them.

Iskiab · April 2019

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@MartiniDaniels I haven't seen a magblade DPS in the group finder since they gutted refreshing path and funnel health. No idea were you get the idea twisting is always there.

I ended up going magblade healer. Are they rare too? If I’m magicka I’d rather heal a dungeon for shorter queue times.

I’m asking because I’m curious, I stopped doing vets once I had all the helms in each weight.

yes, healblades are rare, hardly ever any other class but warden and templars. only thing i ask is to make sure you have orbs.

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@MartiniDaniels I haven't seen a magblade DPS in the group finder since they gutted refreshing path and funnel health. No idea were you get the idea twisting is always there.

Well, you are right, i mostly spoke of trials. Even before they gutted it, magblades in dungeons were quite rate, it's mostly magsorcs and stamblades out there. Though as magblade I don't feel underpowered or anything, yep other classes are better in aoe, but at ST and execution when all combat field is burning so you just stand in only safe patch and send 50-70k impales, it's cool.

Fo Sho. When I started I didn’t know about orbs. I healed some vTrials but prefer to use my Templar. Only did them enough to get all the sets I wanted.

vDungeons are easy enough, I’ve done them all but the new one.

Ertosi · April 2019

Many might mock it, but one of my favorite tanking characters (an orc NB) uses the Steed mundus as well.

I liked the extra mobility so much, I tried adding 5x Coward's Gear to their build (as jewelry and weapons) just so see if I might push the speediness even further.

Coward's Gear Set (Medium):
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) While Sprinting you gain Major Expedition and Major Protection, increasing your Movement Speed and reducing your damage taken by 30%.

I love it and have a blast with this speedy tank! Sure, it's well away from meta and lightyears from BiS, but it still gets the job done and is a blast to use. Extra health, lots of stam recovery and you feel immune to damage whenever repositioning (helps out immensely with any bosses that like to teleport around). Plus, when pugging with it, you no longer need worry about annoying DDs that sloppily speed rush ahead as you can easily beat them to each pull.

Iskiab · April 2019

Ertosi wrote: »

Many might mock it, but one of my favorite tanking characters (an orc NB) uses the Steed mundus as well.

I liked the extra mobility so much, I tried adding 5x Coward's Gear to their build (as jewelry and weapons) just so see if I might push the speediness even further.
Coward's Gear Set (Medium):
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) While Sprinting you gain Major Expedition and Major Protection, increasing your Movement Speed and reducing your damage taken by 30%.

I love it and have a blast with this speedy tank! Sure, it's well away from meta and lightyears from BiS, but it still gets the job done and is a blast to use. Extra health, lots of stam recovery and you feel immune to damage whenever repositioning (helps out immensely with any bosses that like to teleport around). Plus, when pugging with it, you no longer need worry about annoying DDs that sloppily speed rush ahead as you can easily beat them to each pull.

I love being fast too. Played a Druid and just love it in MMOs.

You could try Swift traits on your jewellery and double take. You probably use dark cloak, but if not concealed blade with cloak too.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2019

The thing I don't like about Templar Tanking is we really have nothing for CC. Have to use the slushy Ice staff for that. I lament the loss of Blinding Flashes every single day.

Ertosi · April 2019

Iskiab wrote: »

Ertosi wrote: »

Many might mock it, but one of my favorite tanking characters (an orc NB) uses the Steed mundus as well.

I liked the extra mobility so much, I tried adding 5x Coward's Gear to their build (as jewelry and weapons) just so see if I might push the speediness even further.
Coward's Gear Set (Medium):
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) While Sprinting you gain Major Expedition and Major Protection, increasing your Movement Speed and reducing your damage taken by 30%.

I love it and have a blast with this speedy tank! Sure, it's well away from meta and lightyears from BiS, but it still gets the job done and is a blast to use. Extra health, lots of stam recovery and you feel immune to damage whenever repositioning (helps out immensely with any bosses that like to teleport around). Plus, when pugging with it, you no longer need worry about annoying DDs that sloppily speed rush ahead as you can easily beat them to each pull.

I love being fast too. Played a Druid and just love it in MMOs.

You could try Swift traits on your jewellery and double take. You probably use dark cloak, but if not concealed blade with cloak too.

All great ideas which the character certainly uses! From other posts I've read, it seems most people like going Sorc for speedsters, but having tried them both I personally prefer NB because of those skills. As an orc, it's already far to easy to hit the speed cap, so Swift jewelry isn't needed, but despite that I still have them as they'll help keep you moving when in slowing CC effects.

In addition to tanking, this is my favorite character to farm Public Dungeons with (after swapping my main armor set from Heavy to a nice DD Medium, and her S&B to Bow) as she can blaze between pulls without ever slowing down. It's hysterical watching randoms try to keep up only to quickly fall behind as they blow through their stam.

frostz417 · April 2019

I don’t play tank but I can confirm steed is an absolutely fantastic mundus to use

Ragnarock41 · April 2019

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

The thing I don't like about Templar Tanking is we really have nothing for CC. Have to use the slushy Ice staff for that. I lament the loss of Blinding Flashes every single day.

To this day, I still don't understand the thinking process behind removing that CC.

Nah, just kidding

but really Its been a very rough ride for templar tanks.

Fellwitch · April 2019

Absolutely fantastic ideas here.