Igor carefully sweeps up the vampire's ashes, takes them home and scatters them in the bottom of the vampire's coffin, then drips some blood in the ashes, et voilà the vampire undies again!

I guess what I'm trying to say here, and failing, is that Vampires are functionally immortal. They cannot really die. That goes for TES as well as traditional stories. If a vampire wishes to die truly and pass on into the afterlife the first thing they have to do is cure their vampirism. IIRC This was a story line in TES IV.

Yes when they get killed their souls go to Coldharbour.
The storyline with the Count's wife doesn't show they can't die but rather that a vampire can fall into coma if not feeding normally. They can still die by violent means!

Vampirism is a creation of Molag Bal. I assume every Vampire's Soul is taken to Coldharbour.

Well, the soul is well where it is interesting, people like to make assumptions. here is the assumption, because hircine claims the souls of those that try and go into sovagarde he claims all souls that have lycanthropy. Daedra can't really claim souls unless those souls are willing. Even those soul trapped and sent to the soul soul cairn have their free will but they remain trapped there and they might have to force those souls to submit in order to control them. Unless a Soul Submits they have free will. Even werewolves. The Sovagarde situation might be unique for several reasons, aka one a deal. The companions made a deal with witches which in turn made the deal with Hircine himself.

Which is well a deal that typically has a cost. That cost with Hircine was to serve him and go to the hunting grounds in the same manner the dragonborn might have to serve nocturnal if they did the entire nightingale questline in skyrim . Hircine knows the Nordic Culture and how the companions want to go to sovangarde but to be a hunter of his is to deny the bounties of sovangarde. Unless you on purpose corrupted your soul willingly well I doubt Hircine has much in the way of control over a werewolves soul any more then Molag Bal over a Vampires. You see werewolf ghosts in the daggerfall area, That one undead werewolf well might have been one of them till his soul was thrusted back into his corpse but after hes killed again he goes straight to molag bal not Hircine my guess because he willingly served Molag Bal and Hircine could not get his soul I doubt he tries to round up all the souls that remain. There is also this lore article that talks about this too. Mortals decide where they want to go, the choices they make lead them to where they go.


Here is that thing from the lore article.

The Interpreted Soul, by Abbot Crassius Viria
August 28th, 2014
As a Nord, I know that my soul may end up in Sovngarde, with Shor's leave, but could my soul leave Sovngarde and go into other realms of Aetherius if I so choose, or is my soul bound within that realm? – Rhaegar Volker
Abbot Crassius Viria says, “Conjured or summoned souls of those who have passed on rarely tell of their sojourns in Aetherius, but it is the belief of our order that acts of will, such as travel, are rare where there is no need of volition. There is no choosing where there is no incentive for choice.”
In a book by Sage Svari of Fallowstone Hall, I have read that Hircine will claim the soul of any lycanthrope upon their death. That leads me to the question of who actually has 'the final say' about where the soul of a mortal goes after death, as this example would suggest that Daedric Princes have a greater say in this than Aedra have. Are there instances in which some kind of conflict between the divine forces over the soul of a mortal may occur, and if so, what would be the deciding factors in such a conflict? – Inkwolf
Abbot Crassius Viria says, “Sage Svari’s statement that Hircine ‘claims’ the souls of lycanthropes is poetic but misleading. It is the mortals themselves who decide the destinations of their souls by the choices they make during life. However, that said, there have been reports that Worm Cult necromancers have devised a way of hijacking the souls of mortals sacrificed in a certain Daedric ritual. This would be horrid, if true, but so far we have not received definite confirmation of it.”

I can't add much to what was said above, but given vampirism and lycanthropy are daedric diseases, I'd imagine they affect the soul just like they do the body. We know lycanthropy does this, so it would make sense that vampirism would too

Its highly improbable Bal would have allowed Lamae to return to Arkay after her death as a vampire, which would have defeated the purpose.

Aliyavana wrote: »

Most of the time coldharbour as molag Val, the creator of vamparism is the lord of domination and he doesn't ask for your permission due to his sphere

Rhoande wrote: »

With the new WW DLC it's confirmed again that Werewolf souls go to the Hunting Grounds regardless of what Abbot Crassius Viria said so I think it's safe to presume, she is a bit of an unreliable source.

I am also pretty sure, considering all that Molag Bal represents, and what vampires are.. that it would be absolutely obscene for vampires to go anywhere else. You're his. He claimed you. He made you. It is so.

Considering the OG vampire's are all called "Daughters of Coldharbor" I think it would be pretty obvious.

I know this isn’t lore- but technically in a way couldn’t Molag do males as well and make them vampires? I mean, Molag’s genderless anyways, so I don’t see why the Prince wouldn’t.

Idk, I’ve just been looking at too many reddit posts about this.

Where do Vampire's go when they die?
They don't go to Aetherius where the Aedra fly
They go down to the realm of darkest night
Won't see 'em again till the fourth of Sun's Height

Mattock_Romulus wrote: »

Where do Vampire's go when they die?
They don't go to Aetherius where the Aedra fly
They go down to the realm of darkest night
Won't see 'em again till the fourth of Sun's Height

Can't give you enough awesomes!

Simple... THEY DON'T DIE!!!!

Just kidding... Oblivion...