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Nord_Raseri
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Why does ZOS use Northern Germanic pagan symbols as emblems in the game? like the horns of Odin(horned triskele) and the Valknut. I also see the celtic spiral triskelion everywhere. does ZOS even know what these symbols mean? or are they just used because they look cool and northern germanic art/spiritualism is often associated with "fantasy"?
Veit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    Look at D&D, Tolkein, Morecock, Freemasons, etc.
    Myths, legends, symbolism, Occult/Pagan ideologies and beliefs, they are what "Modern Fantasy" has drawn on since the early 1900's and before.
    ZoS is just providing a awesome Modern Fantasy game set in a unique and wonderful universe that is Elder Scrolls. :)
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  • Nord_Raseri
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    wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »
    Look at D&D, Tolkein, Morecock, Freemasons, etc.
    Myths, legends, symbolism, Occult/Pagan ideologies and beliefs, they are what "Modern Fantasy" has drawn on since the early 1900's and before.
    ZoS is just providing a awesome Modern Fantasy game set in a unique and wonderful universe that is Elder Scrolls. :)
    Huzzah!

    I understand. My question of whether or not they know what the symbols they are using even mean, still stands.
    Veit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.
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    Nord_Raseri wrote: »
    Why does ZOS use Northern Germanic pagan symbols as emblems in the game? like the horns of Odin(horned triskele) and the Valknut. I also see the celtic spiral triskelion everywhere. does ZOS even know what these symbols mean? or are they just used because they look cool and northern germanic art/spiritualism is often associated with "fantasy"?

    These things are references to the three alliances in the game.
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  • RANKK7
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    Nord_Raseri wrote: »
    Why does ZOS use Northern Germanic pagan symbols as emblems in the game? like the horns of Odin(horned triskele) and the Valknut. I also see the celtic spiral triskelion everywhere. does ZOS even know what these symbols mean? or are they just used because they look cool and northern germanic art/spiritualism is often associated with "fantasy"?

    I agree, it's what I thought when I see them and I think your guess is right they slapped them there because they look cool.
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    lordrichter wrote: »
    These things are references to the three alliances in the game.

    in what way? I've seen the spiral triskelion in all three factions' zones. As for the horned triskele and Valknut I've only seen them as rank emblems for guilds. no where else. not even as usable emblems for the guild tabard(which would be great). Also, that doesn't really follow my question.
    Veit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.
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    Well, since nobody is answering the OP's question, I shall.

    Who the hell knows. Maybe, early on developers and writers knew; maybe not. As half of all US people don't know the century in which their nation came into being, I'm not very optimistic about game developers knowing the minutia of arcane North European symbology.
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    Abigail wrote: »
    Well, since nobody is answering the OP's question, I shall.

    Who the hell knows. Maybe, early on developers and writers knew; maybe not. As half of all US people don't know the century in which their nation came into being, I'm not very optimistic about game developers knowing the minutia of arcane North European symbology.

    thank you. the valknut, along with a few animals, was carved into the stone above the fireplace inmy family home in Nordfrisland by my great-great-grandfather along with the inscription "Leuer Duad Us Slav".
    Veit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.
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    Nord_Raseri wrote: »
    lordrichter wrote: »
    These things are references to the three alliances in the game.

    in what way? I've seen the spiral triskelion in all three factions' zones. As for the horned triskele and Valknut I've only seen them as rank emblems for guilds. no where else. not even as usable emblems for the guild tabard(which would be great). Also, that doesn't really follow my question.

    They refer to the three alliances, not a particular alliance. It is all about three. All of the images that you refer to have "three" in common. Additionally, the ouroboros has the three alliance emblems. Three. It is a common theme in the symbols used in the game.

    As to the questions... I answered "Why does ZOS use Northern Germanic pagan symbols as emblems in the game?". Because they are symbols related to the number three. Nothing to do with them being pagan symbols.

    "Does ZOS even know what these symbols mean?" cannot be answered by us. Personally, I don't care whether they did or not. The symbols have no special meaning to me, and I am fine keeping it that way.

    Edited by Elsonso on 23 November 2018 00:57
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