Question: does radial swing cause dizzying swing to be mitigated by major evasion?

React · October 2018

Console pleb here looking for some pts insight. The new blackrose 2h is shaping up to have some nice potential, now that they've made it deal 100% of damage done to 1 extra target. I'm just wondering if using this 2h causes the initial hit of dizzy to be reduced by evasion, as well as whether or not the extra hit from the set effect is mitigated by evasion.

Any help is appreciated!

templesus · October 2018

This would require 3 people to come together on pts in cyrodiil and test it, which is in itself very difficult as nobody seldomly logs in on PTS. It’s gonna be hard to test it, sorry.

React · October 2018

templesus wrote: »

This would require 3 people to come together on pts in cyrodiil and test it, which is in itself very difficult as nobody seldomly logs in on PTS. It’s gonna be hard to test it, sorry.

Since it only applies its damage to one extra target now, couldn't two players duel with a pet active (twilight, scamp, engine guardian, etc) to test this? Theoretically hitting the pet while the other player stands next to it would apply the damage to the player, and that player can simply switch blade cloak or evasion on/off to test if the damage is mitigated by it.

DeadlyRecluse · October 2018

...this is a great question.

Radial swing is a disappointment in general (the last thing I want from a powerful single target ability is some token AOE--I wanted something to make the channel/risk more worth it)...but making it subject to Evasion would make it even more of a letdown.

React · October 2018

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

...this is a great question.

Radial swing is a disappointment in general (the last thing I want from a powerful single target ability is some token AOE--I wanted something to make the channel/risk more worth it)...but making it subject to Evasion would make it even more of a letdown.

I mean I see some practical applications for it for the type of PvP I do - the dizzying is usually followed by a class burst ability or an ult, which tend to be AoE. Having the strong single target burst of dizzy applied to a second target in these settings could really help pressure two targets instead of one, given the quarters are close enough. Physical pen is also the strongest point for point damage increase available in the game, and will outperform a 1pc weapon damage bonus on the front bar (even more relevant with the shield changes).

However, if it the extra hit is mitigated by evasion, OR if using the 2h causes the initial hit to be mitigated by evasion, there is literally no point in slotting it.

templesus · October 2018

Liam12548 wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

...this is a great question.

Radial swing is a disappointment in general (the last thing I want from a powerful single target ability is some token AOE--I wanted something to make the channel/risk more worth it)...but making it subject to Evasion would make it even more of a letdown.

I mean I see some practical applications for it for the type of PvP I do - the dizzying is usually followed by a class burst ability or an ult, which tend to be AoE. Having the strong single target burst of dizzy applied to a second target in these settings could really help pressure two targets instead of one, given the quarters are close enough. Physical pen is also the strongest point for point damage increase available in the game, and will outperform a 1pc weapon damage bonus on the front bar (even more relevant with the shield changes).

However, if it the extra hit is mitigated by evasion, OR if using the 2h causes the initial hit to be mitigated by evasion, there is literally no point in slotting it.

I did not think of the pet idea. I will gladly test if I can find someone else to assist with it.

PS I’m a console player as well, the pc version was worth the $20 to be able to test things on pts.