jewelry crafting dailies reward changes are NOT awesome

Crafts_Many_Boxes · August 2018

mrtrask23 wrote: »

Oh for crafters, if you want to level jewelry crafting easiest and fastest way is to have a Master Crafter craft CP150 rings for you to break down (White), takes approximately 500..

Well I don't want to give away all my secrets, but if you're clever with guild traders, there's a way to do it that's almost cost neutral, if you're willing to sell the final results. Personally, I know I'll need them eventually so I keep them, but you get your prof maxed and something of equal or almost equal value to what you paid for

flintstone · August 2018

I've received 10 gold grains total sense jewelry crafting began. I leveled it very quickly and do the daily grind without fail....it's bad, it's to slow, it sucks IMO.....very cheap of them. That said.....they did make it better by some very small amount.

Pops_ND_Irish · August 2018

Linaleah wrote: »

so.. with wolfhunter DLC we were supposed to have gotten better chances at gold grains from daily writs, right? it was supposed to help, right?

except, for me personaly, it has backfired spectacularly.

I have one max jewelry crafter. she has yet to get a single gold grain. the rest are crafting at pewter level. I used to get some green, blue grains, occasional purple. but since they have been removed from loot tables, I do not get them, which makes them slower to collect for furniture crafting, but I'm not getting ANY gold grains on any one character either. instead... I'm now getting even MORE useless trait grains.

was that intentional? I thought the change was supposed to make things better, not worse.

Unlucky

DirkRavenclaw · August 2018

I got today grain nr10, so, i have my first Golden upgrade mat again after i used a new Masterwrit to unlock the special Colour that comes with the Achievemnet

HanzeeBokeem · August 2018

The recent changes have certainly improved the situation and every now and then you just get lucky ...

Jayne_Doe · August 2018

Did my first JC Tier 5 writ after Wolfhunter update and got a chromium grain.

OP, it really sucks that you've had pretty bad luck with getting them.

Wreuntzylla · September 2018

flintstone wrote: »

I've received 10 gold grains total sense jewelry crafting began. I leveled it very quickly and do the daily grind without fail....it's bad, it's to slow, it sucks IMO.....very cheap of them. That said.....they did make it better by some very small amount.

I think what they are trying to do is to maintain the pre-JC gold jewelry rarity v. effort. Or at least not devalue legendary jewelry to the point of being common.

I'm ok with that. I am not ok with how meaningless most jewelry master writs are and how difficult it is for the average player to finish crafting achievements.

Veinblood1965 · September 2018

Ok off topic my apologies. I haven't gotten any gold grains from daily writs. I have ESO plus. Do I have to download the Wolfhunter DLC to actually start receiving the increase or is it automatic? I'm kinda new at the DLC stuff and how that all works I bought my expansions off the shelf.

Linaleah · September 2018

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

Ok off topic my apologies. I haven't gotten any gold grains from daily writs. I have ESO plus. Do I have to download the Wolfhunter DLC to actually start receiving the increase or is it automatic? I'm kinda new at the DLC stuff and how that all works I bought my expansions off the shelf.

DLC's are added automatically to the game, only your acess to them changes depending on your subscription status and/or purchase status. as for not getting gold grains.. you seem to have the same terrible luck that have. sorry

Linaleah · September 2018

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

flintstone wrote: »

I've received 10 gold grains total sense jewelry crafting began. I leveled it very quickly and do the daily grind without fail....it's bad, it's to slow, it sucks IMO.....very cheap of them. That said.....they did make it better by some very small amount.

I think what they are trying to do is to maintain the pre-JC gold jewelry rarity v. effort. Or at least not devalue legendary jewelry to the point of being common.

I'm ok with that. I am not ok with how meaningless most jewelry master writs are and how difficult it is for the average player to finish crafting achievements.

I can agree with that, which is part of the reason why I'm so annoyed with how not only purple and blue plating are far too rare IMO, but with changes to daily writ rewards we are now getting even fewer of them. I get it, gold jewelry is special. but blue and purple and green jewelry is NOT.

Veinblood1965 · September 2018

Linaleah wrote: »

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

Ok off topic my apologies. I haven't gotten any gold grains from daily writs. I have ESO plus. Do I have to download the Wolfhunter DLC to actually start receiving the increase or is it automatic? I'm kinda new at the DLC stuff and how that all works I bought my expansions off the shelf.

DLC's are added automatically to the game, only your acess to them changes depending on your subscription status and/or purchase status. as for not getting gold grains.. you seem to have the same terrible luck that have. sorry

Thank you, well at least it's just bad luck and not a lack of downloading the DLC lol. Funny thing is I have yet to even get enough purple grains to upgrade but one ring.

Tarukmockto · September 2018

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

Thank you, well at least it's just bad luck and not a lack of downloading the DLC lol. Funny thing is I have yet to even get enough purple grains to upgrade but one ring.

Welcome to the club! And my RNG karma isn't that bad!

Kelces · September 2018

I agree, this "pulverized xyz" is just a time sink. Gradually the plating requirements are reduced, which is noithing more than switching to whole platings and have done with it. I am sure, we will eventually get there, until then we will get our patience tested...

stitchesofdooom · September 2018

Linaleah wrote: »

so.. with wolfhunter DLC we were supposed to have gotten better chances at gold grains from daily writs, right? it was supposed to help, right?

except, for me personaly, it has backfired spectacularly.

I have one max jewelry crafter. she has yet to get a single gold grain. the rest are crafting at pewter level. I used to get some green, blue grains, occasional purple. but since they have been removed from loot tables, I do not get them, which makes them slower to collect for furniture crafting, but I'm not getting ANY gold grains on any one character either. instead... I'm now getting even MORE useless trait grains.

was that intentional? I thought the change was supposed to make things better, not worse.

this "grains" BS has to STOP. We all hate it. And deconstructing jewelry should return PLATINGS, not grains.

Say you refine a purple ring. That purple ring needed to use 3 zircon platings MINIMUM. That's 30 grains... yet you only get one grain back?? You need to deconstruct at least 30 purple rings, and be extremely lucky, to get enough zircon to make a single purple ring.
With clothing you need a minimum of 6. Not to mention the fact that Summerset must be owned to use the crafting station which I personally think is a little unfair on the peeps who don't own it yet.

CHANGES ZENIMAX NEEDS TO MAKE:

1: Either make grains and pulverized [insert trait item name here] refine into multiple platings [etc] up to 10, depending on refining perks.
2: Deconstructing be changed to return platings, not grains.
3: Jewelry Hireling.
4: Jeweler that sells jewelry, simple jewelry furnishing designs and Jeweler's Sign. I want my Jeweler's Sign.
5: Allow everyone to craft jewelry. Even if only when you make it a crown-purchasable DLC. Summerset is good enough on its own, you don't need to withhold Jewelry Crafting just to get people to buy it.
6: Give everyone who already owns Summerset 10 Chromium Plating and 10 Zircon Plating.

GimpyPorcupine · September 2018

7 of my toons are Tier 5 JC, and I get 1-2 chromium grains a day from writs. RNGzus be praised.

Crafts_Many_Boxes · September 2018

GimpyPorcupine wrote: »

7 of my toons are Tier 5 JC, and I get 1-2 chromium grains a day from writs. RNGzus be praised.

The sad thing is, this is pretty much your only option to have gold jewelry in any sort of reasonable amount of time, without countless hours of farming. I might make 3 more characters and dolemen grind them to 50 JUST to get 3 more chances at chromium every day. Long term, it's a much better investment.

Pops_ND_Irish · September 2018

redspecter23 wrote: »

I have gotten 20 or more gold grains since the change. I got exactly 1 from hundreds of writs prior to the change. I'm quite happy with the situation as it is right now.

I agree, seems fine to me !

phileunderx2 · September 2018

They reduced the number of platings required for master writs and upped the reward of vouchers. So why am I still deystroying all of my jewelry master writs??? Get rid of the dust/grains BS

GimpyPorcupine · September 2018

Did 7 Tier 5 JC writs today, got 3 chromium grains in the reward boxes. No complaints.

Rittings · September 2018

I can understand what the original poster is saying though. Not everyone has all those crafters, and oddly, I find myself in the situation whereby I have several maxed jewelry crafters, and now i have more legendary mats than I do epic....

May I suggest ZoS take a look at this and do the following (with the same drop rate we currently experience with chromium grains):-

Platinum writs = Chromium Grains drops
Electrum writs = Zircon with lesser chance to drop Chromium
Silver writs = Iridium with lesser chance to drop Zircon
Copper writs = Terne with lesser chance to drop Iridium
Pewter writs = Terne only

Crafts_Many_Boxes · September 2018

Rittings wrote: »

I can understand what the original poster is saying though. Not everyone has all those crafters, and oddly, I find myself in the situation whereby I have several maxed jewelry crafters, and now i have more legendary mats than I do epic....

May I suggest ZoS take a look at this and do the following (with the same drop rate we currently experience with chromium grains):-

Platinum writs = Chromium Grains drops
Electrum writs = Zircon with lesser chance to drop Chromium
Silver writs = Iridium with lesser chance to drop Zircon
Copper writs = Terne with lesser chance to drop Iridium
Pewter writs = Terne only

But this system rewards the player for keeping a few characters below max JC. I guess it works, but it's kind of depressing I guess?

It should just be additive instead as you go up in rank. Like this:

Platinum writs = chromium 25%, zircon 20%, iridium 15%, terne 10% but all rolls are independent of each other.
Electrum writs = zircon 25%, iridium 20%, terne 15% but all rolls are independent of each other
Silver writs = Irridium 25%, terne 20% but all rolls are independent of each other
Copper Writs = terne 25%
Pewter writs = additional chance at random style grain maybe?

This way, you're actually rewarded for having a higher JC level. Since we don't have JC hirelings and JC requires far more mats than other professions, I'd say this is still fair and if anything brings us closer to balance with other professions.

Mintaka5 · September 2018

Since the Summerset release I have only produced 4 legendary platings from 100s of thousands of grains. I'm absolutely exhausted from farming mats for jewelry and having nothing to show for it. Epic is not as bad but could use way more improvement. I don't want to produce any crafted jewelry because I want to at least get them to epic, but resources are so low, it's really no longer worth the effort.

It's not surprising though, considering how punishing RNG is in this game all around. They just want to keep you playing forever. It's not P2W, but give-up-the-rest-of-your-life to win.

Linaleah · September 2018

Crafts_Many_Boxes wrote: »

Rittings wrote: »

I can understand what the original poster is saying though. Not everyone has all those crafters, and oddly, I find myself in the situation whereby I have several maxed jewelry crafters, and now i have more legendary mats than I do epic....

May I suggest ZoS take a look at this and do the following (with the same drop rate we currently experience with chromium grains):-

Platinum writs = Chromium Grains drops
Electrum writs = Zircon with lesser chance to drop Chromium
Silver writs = Iridium with lesser chance to drop Zircon
Copper writs = Terne with lesser chance to drop Iridium
Pewter writs = Terne only

But this system rewards the player for keeping a few characters below max JC. I guess it works, but it's kind of depressing I guess?

It should just be additive instead as you go up in rank. Like this:

Platinum writs = chromium 25%, zircon 20%, iridium 15%, terne 10% but all rolls are independent of each other.
Electrum writs = zircon 25%, iridium 20%, terne 15% but all rolls are independent of each other
Silver writs = Irridium 25%, terne 20% but all rolls are independent of each other
Copper Writs = terne 25%
Pewter writs = additional chance at random style grain maybe?

This way, you're actually rewarded for having a higher JC level. Since we don't have JC hirelings and JC requires far more mats than other professions, I'd say this is still fair and if anything brings us closer to balance with other professions.

that would be totally cool or at least something similar - like every level of JC gets a chance at upgrade grains, but imagine if maxed out JC ONLY gets upgrade grains, never trait stones with same chance for golds we have right now, and the lower your JC level - the lower the chance for gold grains, but you still get all the other upgrades - so like.. lowest level would mostly get greens, next up - copper will get some greens and some blues, and you get the idea.

I just want my chance to get other grains - back instead of what we have right now, where I continue to accumulate those very useless trait stones, while green, blue and purple grains are getting scarcer and scarcer for me, meanwhile my luck with gold grains is STILL terrible. IMO, they should have never nerfed other upgrade grain drops, just increased the chance of gold ones.

f047ys3v3n · September 2018

The rate is still terribad. It is certainly not the 50% rate that other tier master writs have. I am also starting to suspect the rates on refining are lower.

In any case, it all adds up to crafting jewelry is not really a thing and improving to gold is a terrible value.

Carbonised · September 2018

The only thing I would suggest regarding jewelrycrafting dailies is that they introduce a chance to get purple, blue and green temper parts as well. So, first the dice roll whether to get a gold chrome grain. If that doesn't happen, then you have a larger chance to get a purple grain. If that doesn't happen then an even larger chance for a blue, and finally green.

That way, you would still have a chance for a gold chrome grain, but even if you didn't get it, you would get one of the lower level grains instead. That would please most people, as well as making jewelry dailies a bit more rewarding.

ChunkyCat · September 2018

I also have received ZERO GOLD GRAINS for jewelry crafting!! True *** story.

I guess I should actually start jewelery crafting on one of my characters.

Wreuntzylla · September 2018

I haven't actually paid attention, but do you get platings from deconstructing jewelry?

I think the fastest way to farm purple jewelry is through PvP.

stitchesofdooom · September 2018

you should get 1 purple and 1 gold plating each time you do a jewelry crafting writ. I hate this grains BS

Linaleah · September 2018

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

I haven't actually paid attention, but do you get platings from deconstructing jewelry?

I think the fastest way to farm purple jewelry is through PvP.

you get grains. some of the time. its a 50/50 chance I believe WITH passives.

Linaleah · September 2018

Carbonised wrote: »

The only thing I would suggest regarding jewelrycrafting dailies is that they introduce a chance to get purple, blue and green temper parts as well. So, first the dice roll whether to get a gold chrome grain. If that doesn't happen, then you have a larger chance to get a purple grain. If that doesn't happen then an even larger chance for a blue, and finally green.

That way, you would still have a chance for a gold chrome grain, but even if you didn't get it, you would get one of the lower level grains instead. That would please most people, as well as making jewelry dailies a bit more rewarding.

it would certainly make ME happy. I honestly genuinely do NOT need or want any more of the trait grains.