Guessing the buff to Frag or added proc to Blast is in the switch to live then

Otherwise How on earth can ZOS justify making Sorc worse than they were in dragonbones, where they knew they needed something to help the class hence giving them Cage.

Oddest back track yet. Just give us Frag back.

Apologies for my ignorance, but I'm hoping someone can clarify something for me regarding Rune Prison...

As far as I'm aware (and have experienced every time), the problem with Rune Prison is it cannot be broken out of. It doesn't matter if I have 20k free stam, I can't roll, can't break free, can't purge, can't heal, nothing works.

I thought that is what needed to change, personally. As 5 whole seconds of being a stunned punching bag is pretty much guaranteed death every time.

Aliyavana wrote: »

Exodium wrote: »

maboleth wrote: »

Exodium wrote: »

ZOS these patch notes are overall good but pleaseeee don't make defensive rune dodgeable. The whole point of the proc condition is to provide some defense when being ganked or need some breathing space to heal, but now this morph just reverts sorcs to being prone to getting bursted. Defensive rune was never used offensively either, hence the name, and this is why it was never overperforming.

@ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

Preach... but it will fall on deaf ears.

What I sometimes find irritating at ZOS is they seem reluctant and cautious about certain changes, annoyingly cautious that is, but at the same time they tweak other non-invasive and non-issue morphs and sets and nerf them to the ground, even when nobody asked or complained!

Yep and I'm not even saying this from the perspective of a mag sorc. I use it on a stamsorc because after I get incapped I used defensive rune to slow down a nightblades momentum, seeing as they have defile AND 20% more damage for 6 seconds. Those 1-2 seconds they are stuck in the defensive rune CC can really come in clutch.

Now what's the point? They'll incap me, the broken shuffle proc chance will dodge my defensive rune, and I'll be looking at the usual 6k incap 4k suprise attack spam on my death recap wondering why I even bother playing a stamsorc rather than a stamnb.

I swear counterplay just doesn't exist in this game.

Yep, defensive rune rip. Next patch will be the nb meta with sload not able to take a nb out of cloak and defensive rune not being dodgable

They should have left defensive rune alone and only focused on rune cage and the base morph

Apache_Kid wrote: »

"Siege weapon damage and effects will no longer proc item sets"

THANK YOU

This is so good. Screw running over siege and having it proc sloads.

Sky_WK wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

Sky_WK wrote: »

Ah ok so only nightblades get to have good defile uptime, that fits the ZoS playbook.

Its a single target ultimate for 6 seconds wtf are you talking about?

It's now the longest defile in the game

An ultimate has its defile last 2 seconds longer than a normal ability. Oh yeah, how broken indeed. No ultimate should outdo a normal ability.

Welp Wizards is now a dead set...Guess we can toss that onto the pile of all other sets ruined

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Item Sets

• Durok’s Bane
  • The 5-piece bonus has been adjusted.
  • OLD:
    • 5: When you take damage, you apply Major Defile to the attacker for 4 seconds, reducing their healing received and Health Recovery by 30%. This effect can occur once every 1 second.
  • NEW:
    • 5: When you take damage, you apply Major Defile to the attacker for 4 seconds, reducing their healing received and Health Recovery by 30%. This effect can occur once every 8 seconds per enemy.
• Ward of Cyrodiil
  • The 5-piece bonus has been adjusted.
  • OLD:
    • When you deal melee damage, you apply Major Defile to the enemy for 4 seconds, reducing their healing received and Health Recovery by 30%. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
  • NEW:
    • When you deal melee damage, you apply Major Defile to the enemy for 3 seconds, reducing their healing received and Health Recovery by 30%. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
• Wizard’s Riposte:
  • The 5-piece bonus has been adjusted.
  • OLD:
    • When you take Critical Damage you apply Minor Maim to the enemy for 15 seconds, reducing their damage done by 15%.
  • NEW:
    • When you take direct Critical Damage you apply Minor Maim to the enemy for 5 seconds, reducing their damage done by 15%.

Well, dunno
Before Durok didn't allowed to instantly debuff several attackers - there was 1 second delay in between new player became debuffed and there was no guarantee that new debuff would receive new enemy and not the same, as 1 sec before.
Now - it's possible, nuff said

Ward - literally not nerfed, because it's hard for melee to not deal any melee damage in 3 sec.

Riposte - just destroyed. If that change would go to live, then this set can be freely deconstructed. Because only 5 sec debuff time and only direct crits - cloth (this is light set, you remember that?) wearer would die long before this set procs 2nd time, really.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Sorcerer

• Dark Magic
  • Rune Cage: This ability and its morphs can now be dodged.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Wrobel
I don't even...





How about we get an npc for Cyrodiil that we can use to respec our skill points?

Considering this change is very important for PvPers and the Cyrodiil experience has only gotten worse over the past 4 years (I know right? Wow...). Most people for some reason play on Vivec and we don't need to sit in queue for 2 hours because we wanted to change a morph. Then again some of us will likely client crash and have to sit in queue anyway... at least give us this.

@ZOS_Wrobel means, Nightblades are not strong enough. He will buff them and nerf rune cage and it’s morphs to the ground. Gg

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

General

Sorcerer

• Dark Magic
  • Rune Cage: This ability and its morphs can now be dodged.

General

• Siege weapon damage and effects will no longer proc item sets.

Item Sets

• Durok’s Bane
  • The 5-piece bonus has been adjusted.
  • OLD:
    • 5: When you take damage, you apply Major Defile to the attacker for 4 seconds, reducing their healing received and Health Recovery by 30%. This effect can occur once every 1 second.
  • NEW:
    • 5: When you take damage, you apply Major Defile to the attacker for 4 seconds, reducing their healing received and Health Recovery by 30%. This effect can occur once every 8 seconds per enemy.
• Ward of Cyrodiil
  • The 5-piece bonus has been adjusted.
  • OLD:
    • When you deal melee damage, you apply Major Defile to the enemy for 4 seconds, reducing their healing received and Health Recovery by 30%. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
  • NEW:
    • When you deal melee damage, you apply Major Defile to the enemy for 3 seconds, reducing their healing received and Health Recovery by 30%. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
• Wizard’s Riposte:
  • The 5-piece bonus has been adjusted.
  • OLD:
    • When you take Critical Damage you apply Minor Maim to the enemy for 15 seconds, reducing their damage done by 15%.
  • NEW:
    • When you take direct Critical Damage you apply Minor Maim to the enemy for 5 seconds, reducing their damage done by 15%.

Nerfing rune cage was necessary.
Though making it dodgeable will not resolve how effective it is.
Since it has instant cast time and no visual projectile effect, the player won't be able to react in time to dodge.
This change is only making the ability less useful against already dodging targets.

Siege weapons really shouldn't have proc item sets from the beginning, so this change is much welcomed

Durok's Bane was OP and was used by ball groups/farming groups in Cyrodiil.
This is a good change.
No longer they will apply major defile to all players with very high uptime

Ward of Cyrodiil 3 pieces bonus of 15% mounted speed will be missed.
Please consider adding this bonus to other set.
If you are worried that it can give an advantage in the mounted battleground/s, you can always make it so that the bonus will not apply while in this type of location.

I agree the change to Wizard Riposte was needed.
The uptime of Minor Maim was too high.

In conclusion, I see a few fine combat balance changes, but you didn't address many issues, such as:
1) Many item sets are still OP, such as:
a. Sload - The change you made will not be enough. This set will still wreak havoc in PVP.

b. Shield Breaker - This set needs a cooldown of 2-3 seconds to it's 5 pieces set bonus.
Old:
5 items: When you deal damage with a Light or Heavy Attack against a Player with a damage shield, you deal an additional 25-2150 Oblivion Damage to them.
New:
5 items: When you deal damage with a Light or Heavy Attack against a Player with a damage shield, you deal an additional 25-2150 Oblivion Damage to them. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds.

c. Zaan - This set will still be very strong despite the range to break the beam was reduced by 2 meters.
I propose the following change:
Old:
(2 items) When you damage a nearby enemy with a Light or Heavy Attack, you have a 20% chance to create a beam of fire that will connect you to your enemy. The beam deals 3440 Flame Damage every 1 second to your enemy for 5 seconds. Every second, this damage increases by 50%. The beam is broken if the enemy moves 8 meters away from you. This effect can occur every 18 seconds.
New:
(2 items) When you damage a nearby enemy with a Light or Heavy Attack, you have a 8% chance to create a beam of fire that will connect you to your enemy. The beam deals 3440 Flame Damage every 1 second to your enemy for 5 seconds. Every second, this damage increases by 40%. The beam is broken if the enemy moves 8 meters away from you. This effect can occur every 20 seconds. This effect can't be applied to an enemy who is already effected by a zaan beam.
d. Many other item sets, not making this post TLDR.

2) OP abilities or lack of appropriate abilities:
a. Eye of the storm - Since there is no longer AOE caps(long time now), this ability is being spammed by ball groups/farming groups in Cyrodiil.
The ability is the best for farming ap since it is too strong and it stacks.
When I see groups spamming this ability, it makes me believe that pvp is all about this ultimate ability(which is really a shame).
You wanted diversity and not 1 shot ability and forget it, so please make this ultimate ability less strong.
Players shouldn't be farmed due to this OP ability.
Forget the run away and get out of the storm mentality, we need only 2 storms active at a location to give it more counter play.
If many... storms are active at a location = nuclear bomb version of Cyrodiil = nothing survives.
I propose the following change:
Eye of the Storm: Target: Area.
Old:
Create a cataclysmic storm above you that builds for 2 seconds then lays waste to all enemies nearby, dealing [1459 / 1476 / 1491 / 1508] Magic Damage every 1 second for 7 seconds.
New:
Create a cataclysmic storm above you that builds for 2 seconds then lays waste to all enemies nearby, dealing [1459 / 1476 / 1491 / 1508] Magic Damage every 1 second for 7 seconds. There can only be 2 storms active in the same area.

b. Reflective Scale and it's morphs - This ability is too strong and makes the magicka Dragonknight able to reflect far too many projectiles.
If you ever seen a fight between a sorcerer/other class/build which fires projectiles and a magicka Dragonknight, you probably noticed that 90% of projectiles are being reflected.
I suggest the following:
Dragon Fire Scale(morph example) -
Old:
Cost: [4050 / 3960 / 3870 / 3780] Magicka.
Flex your scales, reflecting up to 4 projectiles for 6 seconds. The reflected projectiles deal [20 / 25 / 30 / 35]% additional damage to the attacker.
New:
Cost: [4450 / 4360 / 4270 / 4180] Magicka.
Flex your scales, reflecting up to 4 projectiles for 4 seconds. The reflected projectiles deal [15 / 20 / 25 / 30]% additional damage to the attacker.

c. Steel Tornado - While I understand you wanted to make this ability undodgeable, this resulted in it being too strong, especially in PVP.
It is being spammed by groups in Cyrodiil and it is even became very good for solo gameplay.
I suggest the following:
Old:
Steel Tornado: Radius: 9 meters.
Launch yourself into a lethal spin, dealing [974 / 985 / 995 / 1006] Physical Damage to nearby enemies. Deals up to 100% more damage to enemies based on each percentage of their missing Health.
New:
Steel Tornado: Radius: 7 meters.
Launch yourself into a lethal spin, dealing [974 / 985 / 995 / 1006] Physical Damage to nearby enemies. Deals up to 70% more damage to enemies based on each percentage of their missing Health.

d. Stamina Nightblade lack of defensive ability against projectiles/incoming damage unless using the expensive cloak(which not all want to use, especially for players who want to play in-your-face kind of gameplay, no stealth).

e. Magicka Warden lack of defensive/CC ability/abilities and appropriate damage. Stamina Wardens are super strong, but their fellow magicka Wardens are far behind.

f.list goes on, no TLDR.

3. There are many exploits/bugs which needs to be fixed. I will not detail them all here so others may not exploit them.
A vague hint to one of the locations which a huge exploit needs an urgent fix: Imperial City.
Please fix it and many other exploits.

4. CC immunity and roots immunity are not reliable - There are many occasions which double/triple/more break free is required to break the stun.
one example: Dragonknight roots being applied when petrify was already applied. Breaking free of this stun+roots glitch requires 4 times breaking free and then dodge roll.

5. Cyrodiil performance - How can anyone enjoy PVP if the game client crash so many times, there is very high latency and low fps most of the time ?
The answer is that playing in Cyrodiil is not as enjoyable as it used to be.
It is not fun when reaching a large scale fight area and then the game crash or there is 500+ latency and it's not possible to react in time while in combat.

6. Bombing in Cyrodiil - This is too easy since there is no aoe caps.
Please adjust abilities and make it so that it will be harder to execute.
1/2 players killing 30 players in 1 second is broken pvp in my book.


7. Overland PVE areas - The difficulty is set to easy.
Please add more health to mobs and increase their damage.

8. Bots - Botting is still very common and many bots can be found all over Tamriel.
Negative effects of botting:
a.The bots are killing monsters/npcs that are needed for quests.
b. Make the game less enjoyable for players who adventure and farm by normal means(no botting).
c. The bots masters reduce the cost of items in the game while making huge amount of in-game gold and/or real life currency gains by exploits.
d. Guild masters who buy gold from the bots masters are cheating the system and are able to outbid other guilds when bidding on guild traders. The average bid amounts on most popular guild traders are higher due to bots.
e. etc.
Please add an efficient auto detect+ban system through the code.

9. Other issues - There are other issues. Please solve the above issues first.