Assassin's Will Exploit
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Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭rimmidimdim wrote: »Working as intended. Healing a guard who is in combat should trigger the in combat status in Cyrodiil(which behaves differently than being in combat in pve)Mend wounds doesn’t say you no longer light or heavy attacks, simply that they instead heal targets.
Listen for the sound of the spectral bow and block/dodge roll
You do NOT have to heal a guard in combat, he/she doesn't have to be in combat. And it the proc will stay, all you have to do is recast relentless focus. I tested it. This can't be intended. Also it procs Molag Kena, which also can't be as intended. Read the tool tip.
I can proc scourge off guards not in combat, if I get in combat and not use scourge, and then I get out of combat, you will have to re proc it. But yes I can proc it out of combat on guards and other friendly players. Cheers
So the charges drop only when you leave combat? Meaning that if you never enter combat the charges are indefinite?1 -
rimmidimdim✭✭✭rimmidimdim wrote: »Working as intended. Healing a guard who is in combat should trigger the in combat status in Cyrodiil(which behaves differently than being in combat in pve)Mend wounds doesn’t say you no longer light or heavy attacks, simply that they instead heal targets.
Listen for the sound of the spectral bow and block/dodge roll
You do NOT have to heal a guard in combat, he/she doesn't have to be in combat. And it the proc will stay, all you have to do is recast relentless focus. I tested it. This can't be intended. Also it procs Molag Kena, which also can't be as intended. Read the tool tip.
I can proc scourge off guards not in combat, if I get in combat and not use scourge, and then I get out of combat, you will have to re proc it. But yes I can proc it out of combat on guards and other friendly players. Cheers
So the charges drop only when you leave combat? Meaning that if you never enter combat the charges are indefinite?
Correct
Also wanted to add, again Molag Kena. This can be proc'd out of combat too, so you could have scourge up and Kena up. Deadly combo for gankers. Cheers.Edited by rimmidimdim on 15 June 2018 21:072 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???4 -
Datthaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???
I get what you're saying, but zos is stupid with wording sometimes. Immov pots say all disabling effects, but doesn't stop snares, which to be is a disabling effect. So I never take what they say too literally anymore.3 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???
I get what you're saying, but zos is stupid with wording sometimes. Immov pots say all disabling effects, but doesn't stop snares, which to be is a disabling effect. So I never take what they say too literally anymore.
That is Your argument ? Incorrect wording ? Seriously how someone can use argument that "hitting an enemy" may be incorrect wording for "healing an ally" ? Get real.
Also snares and immobilizes were never considered disabling effects. Only effects that are considered disabling ones are those which in fact disables You from using abilities on bars.Edited by Juhasow on 15 June 2018 22:430 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It’s cheap, but let’s be honest. Its still five GCD to setup. And a nightblade is screwed if they leave combat. Oops, you stayed cloaked for too long? Yeah no more will stack.
Not to mention the fact that there are classes like MDK that can avoid just about all of your ranged damage. Unless you have force pulse slotted... lol.
Magblades are strong, but it’s not all roses and candy.2 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It’s cheap, but let’s be honest. Its still five GCD to setup. And a nightblade is screwed if they leave combat. Oops, you stayed cloaked for too long? Yeah no more will stack.
Not to mention the fact that there are classes like MDK that can avoid just about all of your ranged damage. Unless you have force pulse slotted... lol.
Magblades are strong, but it’s not all roses and candy.
The bug is that it only drops when you leave combat, if you use mend wounds you aren't in combat so you can proc will indefinitely.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Some of the people up in here be crazy. ZoS banned as many people gap closing into keeps as they could find. There was nothing to indicate that was an exploit except, you know, they built a wall that needed to be knocked down...Edited by Wreuntzylla on 15 June 2018 23:060 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »Some of the people up in here be crazy. ZoS banned as many people gap closing into keeps as they could find. There was nothing to indicate that was an exploit except, you know, they built a wall that needed to be knocked down...
Really? Funny how none of their ‘favorite streamers’ who “accidentally” hit the exploit button never got banned.1 -
rimmidimdim✭✭✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »Some of the people up in here be crazy. ZoS banned as many people gap closing into keeps as they could find. There was nothing to indicate that was an exploit except, you know, they built a wall that needed to be knocked down...
This is an exploit, but not the same thing. You are not changing the atmosphere of pvp with it. It's only a gank mechanic exploit. Not taking over keeps and such, just be prepared when going into prime gank areas for this exploit to be be exploited, lol. Cheers1 -
Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »Some of the people up in here be crazy. ZoS banned as many people gap closing into keeps as they could find. There was nothing to indicate that was an exploit except, you know, they built a wall that needed to be knocked down...
Really? Funny how none of their ‘favorite streamers’ who “accidentally” hit the exploit button never got banned.
ZoS has stated several times that they take action based on the number of complaints. The people that are banned typically abuse an exploit enough to make a bunch of people angry or post a video of themselves breaking a rule. The one streamer ran afoul of the latter.
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arkansas_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭This has been possible before Summerset btw, it's just easier now with Mend Wounds.- Light attack some mob 5 times in a PVE zone while you wait for queue to pop
- Queue pops
- Merciless proc never goes away
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IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭arkansas_ESO wrote: »This has been possible before Summerset btw, it's just easier now with Mend Wounds.- Light attack some mob 5 times in a PVE zone while you wait for queue to pop
- Queue pops
- Merciless proc never goes away
Yes but that is also an exploit but that I assume is one time thing. But, in this case, you can keep up all the time and use Assassin's Will as if it's a long cast time burst skill over and over from stealth.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel0 -
rimmidimdim✭✭✭arkansas_ESO wrote: »This has been possible before Summerset btw, it's just easier now with Mend Wounds.
- Light attack some mob 5 times in a PVE zone while you wait for queue to pop
- Queue pops
- Merciless proc never goes away
Do people read other posts in this topic? Why did I test? I'm not going to explain again.0 -
Thogard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »While we're crossing the streams and getting all weird with Mend Wounds, can a Sorcerer in Overload activate Mend on the Overload bar and switch from healing to damage LA's?
If you do this, I’m pretty sure the overload bugginess and the mend wounds bugginess feed upon themselves in an infinite feedback loop. Your character immediately explodes, then is deleted from the server, and then causes a weird glitch where wrobel sends you a hand-written note IRL explaining that he just *** your mom and they’re thinking about moving in together. Like I said, it’s a weird glitch.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp5 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »While we're crossing the streams and getting all weird with Mend Wounds, can a Sorcerer in Overload activate Mend on the Overload bar and switch from healing to damage LA's?
If you do this, I’m pretty sure the overload bugginess and the mend wounds bugginess feed upon themselves in an infinite feedback loop. Your character immediately explodes, then is deleted from the server, and then causes a weird glitch where wrobel sends you a hand-written note IRL explaining that he just *** your mom and they’re thinking about moving in together. Like I said, it’s a weird glitch.
That got dark quickly1 -
rimmidimdim✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »While we're crossing the streams and getting all weird with Mend Wounds, can a Sorcerer in Overload activate Mend on the Overload bar and switch from healing to damage LA's?
If you do this, I’m pretty sure the overload bugginess and the mend wounds bugginess feed upon themselves in an infinite feedback loop. Your character immediately explodes, then is deleted from the server, and then causes a weird glitch where wrobel sends you a hand-written note IRL explaining that he just *** your mom and they’re thinking about moving in together. Like I said, it’s a weird glitch.
Tested, can confirm.0 -
agrr70✭✭✭LMFAO hilarious,gunna cane the *** out of this............Smell my Cheese,
Bowtard,feed me your tears
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Datthaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???
I get what you're saying, but zos is stupid with wording sometimes. Immov pots say all disabling effects, but doesn't stop snares, which to be is a disabling effect. So I never take what they say too literally anymore.
That is Your argument ? Incorrect wording ? Seriously how someone can use argument that "hitting an enemy" may be incorrect wording for "healing an ally" ? Get real.
Also snares and immobilizes were never considered disabling effects. Only effects that are considered disabling ones are those which in fact disables You from using abilities on bars.
Lol you're a salty one... I agree with you and yet you think it's an argument...ok then...
How in the hell do you consider a snare not a disabling effect? So you're gonna tell me a massive reduction to movement speed isint disabling? I think you need to look into a dictionary. It's not my fault zos words things poorly and being a bun dart to people who agree with you is pretty idiotic
dis·a·ble
ˌdisˈāb(ə)l/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: disabling
(of a disease, injury, or accident) limit (someone) in their movements, senses, or activities.
So ok Mr clever. How does a snare not fall into "limit in thier movements"??????
Try not being such a bun dart and people might like youEdited by Datthaw on 16 June 2018 19:270 -
Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Didn't read all replies, but the light attacks do not have to be directed at you. Light attacks on guards or other enemies will build the spectral bow, which then can be shot at anyone while the attacker stays in combat.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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Elusiin✭✭✭✭✭I hope they fix the perm out of combat stacks, but I hope they allow mend wounds to build up these stacks, finally makes a combat medic possible in pvp(without jesus beam)0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???
I get what you're saying, but zos is stupid with wording sometimes. Immov pots say all disabling effects, but doesn't stop snares, which to be is a disabling effect. So I never take what they say too literally anymore.
That is Your argument ? Incorrect wording ? Seriously how someone can use argument that "hitting an enemy" may be incorrect wording for "healing an ally" ? Get real.
Also snares and immobilizes were never considered disabling effects. Only effects that are considered disabling ones are those which in fact disables You from using abilities on bars.
Lol you're a salty one... I agree with you and yet you think it's an argument...ok then...
How in the hell do you consider a snare not a disabling effect? So you're gonna tell me a massive reduction to movement speed isint disabling? I think you need to look into a dictionary. It's not my fault zos words things poorly and being a bun dart to people who agree with you is pretty idiotic
dis·a·ble
ˌdisˈāb(ə)l/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: disabling
(of a disease, injury, or accident) limit (someone) in their movements, senses, or activities.
So ok Mr clever. How does a snare not fall into "limit in thier movements"??????
Try not being such a bun dart and people might like you
There is difference between beeing salty and beeing realistic which I see many people dont understand lately. It's not only me who is not considering snares not beeing disabling effect , it's also developer and websites containing game informations based on game code. So if developer programmed snares to not beeing included as disabling effects You still think You know better because You read definition of that word in dictionary ? You can simply check what devs consider as disabling effects in "Help" section and what game code consider disabling effects on websites like UESP.net. Also I recommend You to look at Mist Form ability tooltip which clearly states it grants immunity to all disabling and immobilzation effects which clearly states those are 2 separate categories. Fact that You think differently based on Your dictionary knowledge and You think You're right over everyone else just makes You arrogant. As for develoers goes explanation for snares not beeing included as disabling effects when disabling effects term exist in game is simple. It's due to fact there is not much other words they could choose from. Show me mr dictionary , any word that they could replace "dasabling" with which would be clear to understand it includes all current disabling effects but not snare.
If anything Immovability potions dont give You immunity to silence which is considered disabling effects in help section but You can just use Your brain instead of backing up with dictionary to know that silence is very expectional in how it works in game.
Back to the topic. I just pointed out that using argument of "bad wording" in this case is inappropriate since "hitting an enemy" doesnt leave lot of space to misinterpret it especially to misinterpret "healing an ally" as part of "hitting an enemy".Edited by Juhasow on 17 June 2018 17:020 -
Datthaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???
I get what you're saying, but zos is stupid with wording sometimes. Immov pots say all disabling effects, but doesn't stop snares, which to be is a disabling effect. So I never take what they say too literally anymore.
That is Your argument ? Incorrect wording ? Seriously how someone can use argument that "hitting an enemy" may be incorrect wording for "healing an ally" ? Get real.
Also snares and immobilizes were never considered disabling effects. Only effects that are considered disabling ones are those which in fact disables You from using abilities on bars.
Lol you're a salty one... I agree with you and yet you think it's an argument...ok then...
How in the hell do you consider a snare not a disabling effect? So you're gonna tell me a massive reduction to movement speed isint disabling? I think you need to look into a dictionary. It's not my fault zos words things poorly and being a bun dart to people who agree with you is pretty idiotic
dis·a·ble
ˌdisˈāb(ə)l/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: disabling
(of a disease, injury, or accident) limit (someone) in their movements, senses, or activities.
So ok Mr clever. How does a snare not fall into "limit in thier movements"??????
Try not being such a bun dart and people might like you
There is difference between beeing salty and beeing realistic which I see many people dont understand lately. It's not only me who is not considering snares not beeing disabling effect , it's also developer and websites containing game informations based on game code. So if developer programmed snares to not beeing included as disabling effects You still think You know better because You read definition of that word in dictionary ? You can simply check what devs consider as disabling effects in "Help" section and what game code consider disabling effects on websites like UESP.net. Also I recommend You to look at Mist Form ability tooltip which clearly states it grants immunity to all disabling and immobilzation effects which clearly states those are 2 separate categories. Fact that You think differently based on Your dictionary knowledge and You think You're right over everyone else just makes You arrogant. As for develoers goes explanation for snares not beeing included as disabling effects when disabling effects term exist in game is simple. It's due to fact there is not much other words they could choose from. Show me mr dictionary , any word that they could replace "dasabling" with which would be clear to understand it includes all current disabling effects but not snare.
If anything Immovability potions dont give You immunity to silence which is considered disabling effects in help section but You can just use Your brain instead of backing up with dictionary to know that silence is very expectional in how it works in game.
Back to the topic. I just pointed out that using argument of "bad wording" in this case is inappropriate since "hitting an enemy" doesnt leave lot of space to misinterpret it especially to misinterpret "healing an ally" as part of "hitting an enemy".
And yet is builds a stack... so....clearly it's bad wording... because this has been since pts and they didn't fix it. I'll just let you absorb that while you defend the devs for cherry picking what they feel is disabling.0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???
I get what you're saying, but zos is stupid with wording sometimes. Immov pots say all disabling effects, but doesn't stop snares, which to be is a disabling effect. So I never take what they say too literally anymore.
That is Your argument ? Incorrect wording ? Seriously how someone can use argument that "hitting an enemy" may be incorrect wording for "healing an ally" ? Get real.
Also snares and immobilizes were never considered disabling effects. Only effects that are considered disabling ones are those which in fact disables You from using abilities on bars.
Lol you're a salty one... I agree with you and yet you think it's an argument...ok then...
How in the hell do you consider a snare not a disabling effect? So you're gonna tell me a massive reduction to movement speed isint disabling? I think you need to look into a dictionary. It's not my fault zos words things poorly and being a bun dart to people who agree with you is pretty idiotic
dis·a·ble
ˌdisˈāb(ə)l/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: disabling
(of a disease, injury, or accident) limit (someone) in their movements, senses, or activities.
So ok Mr clever. How does a snare not fall into "limit in thier movements"??????
Try not being such a bun dart and people might like you
There is difference between beeing salty and beeing realistic which I see many people dont understand lately. It's not only me who is not considering snares not beeing disabling effect , it's also developer and websites containing game informations based on game code. So if developer programmed snares to not beeing included as disabling effects You still think You know better because You read definition of that word in dictionary ? You can simply check what devs consider as disabling effects in "Help" section and what game code consider disabling effects on websites like UESP.net. Also I recommend You to look at Mist Form ability tooltip which clearly states it grants immunity to all disabling and immobilzation effects which clearly states those are 2 separate categories. Fact that You think differently based on Your dictionary knowledge and You think You're right over everyone else just makes You arrogant. As for develoers goes explanation for snares not beeing included as disabling effects when disabling effects term exist in game is simple. It's due to fact there is not much other words they could choose from. Show me mr dictionary , any word that they could replace "dasabling" with which would be clear to understand it includes all current disabling effects but not snare.
If anything Immovability potions dont give You immunity to silence which is considered disabling effects in help section but You can just use Your brain instead of backing up with dictionary to know that silence is very expectional in how it works in game.
Back to the topic. I just pointed out that using argument of "bad wording" in this case is inappropriate since "hitting an enemy" doesnt leave lot of space to misinterpret it especially to misinterpret "healing an ally" as part of "hitting an enemy".
And yet is builds a stack... so....clearly it's bad wording... because this has been since pts and they didn't fix it. I'll just let you absorb that while you defend the devs for cherry picking what they feel is disabling.
Another argument You just want to belive is valid. They havnt fixed huge amount of bugs that occured during multiple PTS sessions despite the fact those bugs were sometimes reported multiple times. Sometimes it tooked them 2 ,3 or 4 updates to figure it out and finally fix it.
If they would want this skill to affect Assasins Will they would just change ability tooltip and mention this in patch notes. Fact they didnt proves it's a bug. Like I said previously get real or atleast play more instead of spending time on quoting dictionaries and saying about bad wording when this argument clearly doesnt fit.Edited by Juhasow on 17 June 2018 20:510 -
Datthaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???
I get what you're saying, but zos is stupid with wording sometimes. Immov pots say all disabling effects, but doesn't stop snares, which to be is a disabling effect. So I never take what they say too literally anymore.
That is Your argument ? Incorrect wording ? Seriously how someone can use argument that "hitting an enemy" may be incorrect wording for "healing an ally" ? Get real.
Also snares and immobilizes were never considered disabling effects. Only effects that are considered disabling ones are those which in fact disables You from using abilities on bars.
Lol you're a salty one... I agree with you and yet you think it's an argument...ok then...
How in the hell do you consider a snare not a disabling effect? So you're gonna tell me a massive reduction to movement speed isint disabling? I think you need to look into a dictionary. It's not my fault zos words things poorly and being a bun dart to people who agree with you is pretty idiotic
dis·a·ble
ˌdisˈāb(ə)l/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: disabling
(of a disease, injury, or accident) limit (someone) in their movements, senses, or activities.
So ok Mr clever. How does a snare not fall into "limit in thier movements"??????
Try not being such a bun dart and people might like you
There is difference between beeing salty and beeing realistic which I see many people dont understand lately. It's not only me who is not considering snares not beeing disabling effect , it's also developer and websites containing game informations based on game code. So if developer programmed snares to not beeing included as disabling effects You still think You know better because You read definition of that word in dictionary ? You can simply check what devs consider as disabling effects in "Help" section and what game code consider disabling effects on websites like UESP.net. Also I recommend You to look at Mist Form ability tooltip which clearly states it grants immunity to all disabling and immobilzation effects which clearly states those are 2 separate categories. Fact that You think differently based on Your dictionary knowledge and You think You're right over everyone else just makes You arrogant. As for develoers goes explanation for snares not beeing included as disabling effects when disabling effects term exist in game is simple. It's due to fact there is not much other words they could choose from. Show me mr dictionary , any word that they could replace "dasabling" with which would be clear to understand it includes all current disabling effects but not snare.
If anything Immovability potions dont give You immunity to silence which is considered disabling effects in help section but You can just use Your brain instead of backing up with dictionary to know that silence is very expectional in how it works in game.
Back to the topic. I just pointed out that using argument of "bad wording" in this case is inappropriate since "hitting an enemy" doesnt leave lot of space to misinterpret it especially to misinterpret "healing an ally" as part of "hitting an enemy".
And yet is builds a stack... so....clearly it's bad wording... because this has been since pts and they didn't fix it. I'll just let you absorb that while you defend the devs for cherry picking what they feel is disabling.
Another argument You just want to belive is valid. They havnt fixed huge amount of bugs that occured during multiple PTS sessions despite the fact those bugs were sometimes reported multiple times. Sometimes it tooked them 2 ,3 or 4 updates to figure it out and finally fix it.
If they would want this skill to affect Assasins Will they would just change ability tooltip and mention this in patch notes. Fact they didnt proves it's a bug. Like I said previously get real or atleast play more instead of spending time on quoting dictionaries and saying about bad wording when this argument clearly doesnt fit.
But it does though because it's not worded properly. You keep trying to argue how the dictionary defines words improperly. And you just assume that it's not working as intended. You really don't have a clue what zos intended so calling it a bug isint accurate either.0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???
I get what you're saying, but zos is stupid with wording sometimes. Immov pots say all disabling effects, but doesn't stop snares, which to be is a disabling effect. So I never take what they say too literally anymore.
That is Your argument ? Incorrect wording ? Seriously how someone can use argument that "hitting an enemy" may be incorrect wording for "healing an ally" ? Get real.
Also snares and immobilizes were never considered disabling effects. Only effects that are considered disabling ones are those which in fact disables You from using abilities on bars.
Lol you're a salty one... I agree with you and yet you think it's an argument...ok then...
How in the hell do you consider a snare not a disabling effect? So you're gonna tell me a massive reduction to movement speed isint disabling? I think you need to look into a dictionary. It's not my fault zos words things poorly and being a bun dart to people who agree with you is pretty idiotic
dis·a·ble
ˌdisˈāb(ə)l/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: disabling
(of a disease, injury, or accident) limit (someone) in their movements, senses, or activities.
So ok Mr clever. How does a snare not fall into "limit in thier movements"??????
Try not being such a bun dart and people might like you
There is difference between beeing salty and beeing realistic which I see many people dont understand lately. It's not only me who is not considering snares not beeing disabling effect , it's also developer and websites containing game informations based on game code. So if developer programmed snares to not beeing included as disabling effects You still think You know better because You read definition of that word in dictionary ? You can simply check what devs consider as disabling effects in "Help" section and what game code consider disabling effects on websites like UESP.net. Also I recommend You to look at Mist Form ability tooltip which clearly states it grants immunity to all disabling and immobilzation effects which clearly states those are 2 separate categories. Fact that You think differently based on Your dictionary knowledge and You think You're right over everyone else just makes You arrogant. As for develoers goes explanation for snares not beeing included as disabling effects when disabling effects term exist in game is simple. It's due to fact there is not much other words they could choose from. Show me mr dictionary , any word that they could replace "dasabling" with which would be clear to understand it includes all current disabling effects but not snare.
If anything Immovability potions dont give You immunity to silence which is considered disabling effects in help section but You can just use Your brain instead of backing up with dictionary to know that silence is very expectional in how it works in game.
Back to the topic. I just pointed out that using argument of "bad wording" in this case is inappropriate since "hitting an enemy" doesnt leave lot of space to misinterpret it especially to misinterpret "healing an ally" as part of "hitting an enemy".
And yet is builds a stack... so....clearly it's bad wording... because this has been since pts and they didn't fix it. I'll just let you absorb that while you defend the devs for cherry picking what they feel is disabling.
Another argument You just want to belive is valid. They havnt fixed huge amount of bugs that occured during multiple PTS sessions despite the fact those bugs were sometimes reported multiple times. Sometimes it tooked them 2 ,3 or 4 updates to figure it out and finally fix it.
If they would want this skill to affect Assasins Will they would just change ability tooltip and mention this in patch notes. Fact they didnt proves it's a bug. Like I said previously get real or atleast play more instead of spending time on quoting dictionaries and saying about bad wording when this argument clearly doesnt fit.
But it does though because it's not worded properly. You keep trying to argue how the dictionary defines words improperly. And you just assume that it's not working as intended. You really don't have a clue what zos intended so calling it a bug isint accurate either.
Ok You are just repeating Yourself and provide none valid argument supporting Your theory that this in fact could be bad wording. It's like talking to wall. Ignorannce can be bearable but only when it's supported by knowledge about the topic and in Your case it's not. You cant even understand what is my point here so as for now thank you for Your pointless feedback that provided nothing to this discussion and see ya until the bug will be fixed.0 -
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✭Gosh all the people who think it's clever use of ability and it may be intended should just read once more ability description.
While active HITTING AN ENEMY with 5 Light or Heavy Attacks changes this ability into Assasins Will.
Since when HITTING AN ENEMY equals to healing an ally ???
I get what you're saying, but zos is stupid with wording sometimes. Immov pots say all disabling effects, but doesn't stop snares, which to be is a disabling effect. So I never take what they say too literally anymore.
That is Your argument ? Incorrect wording ? Seriously how someone can use argument that "hitting an enemy" may be incorrect wording for "healing an ally" ? Get real.
Also snares and immobilizes were never considered disabling effects. Only effects that are considered disabling ones are those which in fact disables You from using abilities on bars.
Lol you're a salty one... I agree with you and yet you think it's an argument...ok then...
How in the hell do you consider a snare not a disabling effect? So you're gonna tell me a massive reduction to movement speed isint disabling? I think you need to look into a dictionary. It's not my fault zos words things poorly and being a bun dart to people who agree with you is pretty idiotic
dis·a·ble
ˌdisˈāb(ə)l/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: disabling
(of a disease, injury, or accident) limit (someone) in their movements, senses, or activities.
So ok Mr clever. How does a snare not fall into "limit in thier movements"??????
Try not being such a bun dart and people might like you
There is difference between beeing salty and beeing realistic which I see many people dont understand lately. It's not only me who is not considering snares not beeing disabling effect , it's also developer and websites containing game informations based on game code. So if developer programmed snares to not beeing included as disabling effects You still think You know better because You read definition of that word in dictionary ? You can simply check what devs consider as disabling effects in "Help" section and what game code consider disabling effects on websites like UESP.net. Also I recommend You to look at Mist Form ability tooltip which clearly states it grants immunity to all disabling and immobilzation effects which clearly states those are 2 separate categories. Fact that You think differently based on Your dictionary knowledge and You think You're right over everyone else just makes You arrogant. As for develoers goes explanation for snares not beeing included as disabling effects when disabling effects term exist in game is simple. It's due to fact there is not much other words they could choose from. Show me mr dictionary , any word that they could replace "dasabling" with which would be clear to understand it includes all current disabling effects but not snare.
If anything Immovability potions dont give You immunity to silence which is considered disabling effects in help section but You can just use Your brain instead of backing up with dictionary to know that silence is very expectional in how it works in game.
Back to the topic. I just pointed out that using argument of "bad wording" in this case is inappropriate since "hitting an enemy" doesnt leave lot of space to misinterpret it especially to misinterpret "healing an ally" as part of "hitting an enemy".
And yet is builds a stack... so....clearly it's bad wording... because this has been since pts and they didn't fix it. I'll just let you absorb that while you defend the devs for cherry picking what they feel is disabling.
Another argument You just want to belive is valid. They havnt fixed huge amount of bugs that occured during multiple PTS sessions despite the fact those bugs were sometimes reported multiple times. Sometimes it tooked them 2 ,3 or 4 updates to figure it out and finally fix it.
If they would want this skill to affect Assasins Will they would just change ability tooltip and mention this in patch notes. Fact they didnt proves it's a bug. Like I said previously get real or atleast play more instead of spending time on quoting dictionaries and saying about bad wording when this argument clearly doesnt fit.
But it does though because it's not worded properly. You keep trying to argue how the dictionary defines words improperly. And you just assume that it's not working as intended. You really don't have a clue what zos intended so calling it a bug isint accurate either.
Ok You are just repeating Yourself and provide none valid argument supporting Your theory that this in fact could be bad wording. It's like talking to wall. Ignorannce can be bearable but only when it's supported by knowledge about the topic and in Your case it's not. You cant even understand what is my point here so as for now thank you for Your pointless feedback that provided nothing to this discussion and see ya until the bug will be fixed.
So... The skill doesn't say "doesn't work with mend wounds" but it does. And you don't like that because it's a heal which operates as your light attacks and not a damage skill. You then ASSUME this is a bug, you have 0 proof that it is. Zos could have intended this the ENTIRE time. Because you don't like it, you refuse to think maybe they just havent bothered to change the tool tip.
Sorry dude only brick wall is you. Classic snowflake, if you don't agree with me you're wrong attitude.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Man..now I wish I'd done this skill line on my Nightblade rofl...I'd do it but i'm pretty sure they'll fix it tomorrow...to funny though.
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