Asgari wrote: »

400 skill points is more than enough for all the crafting passive, and class skill line and even 3 weapons

but is it enough for 2 more skill lines coming with summerset? THAT is the question. will summeret come with enough skillpoints to cover jewelcrafting and psyjic?

becasue I have no skillpoints to spare RIGHT NOW.

Also, make ur char ready to rumble in vet dungs, as well public dungs; theres 1 skillpoint for each vet/public dung quest.
In a week or 2 u will have more than u can spare.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Asgari wrote: »

400 skill points is more than enough for all the crafting passive, and class skill line and even 3 weapons

but is it enough for 2 more skill lines coming with summerset? THAT is the question. will summeret come with enough skillpoints to cover jewelcrafting and psyjic?

becasue I have no skillpoints to spare RIGHT NOW.

How many skill points do you currently have allocated on your main crafter, @Linaleah?

Having a lot of trouble believing your story ... especially since your signature says a lot of your time is devoted to housing.

not that i have to prove anything to you and the whole argument against more skill points is selfish as heck since YOU lose nothing from having more skill points available so why the heck argue against them?, but fine. i will bite. (incidentally given how many achievements are required to be able to buy a variety of furnishings let alone houses, its kind funny that you cannot see how having a lot of skill points and being into housing goes hand in hand.)

btw, to the dude above with reading comprehension issues - 1. you don't need to do the dungeon quests on vet, and 2 a lot of us already did dungeon quests, and the ones that didn't - MAY NOT HAVE THEM ACCESSIBLE for whatever reasons of playstyle, which is why more quest based/skyshard points added is ideal, based on my respec cost (becasue to be honest, i can't figure out where the heck you can actualy see your number of skillpoints with respecing first) I have 341 points unlocked currently, with only a single point as a floater. respec cost was 17k, and if I remember correctly its 50 gold per point.

I'm missing a few group dungeons which as a dirty rotten casual I am unlikely to be able to get done on this particular character (I have unlocked most trophies on my healer, my main is... not a healer, she is according to the forum standards of what dps should be able to pull - a fake dps/fake tank), so unless someone takes pity on me those dungeons are not happening and the rest is from pvp. given how much time it took me to get to assault 8 as it is? those 42 skill points are highly unlikely any time soon or ever. i might be able to grab... 2 maybe? 3? in a few months during mayhem event, but that's about it. all the solo skill points? I have. yes that includes those behind the gates skyshards in Cyrodil since you need those to be able to buy decorative skyshard for housing (and the dye is very nice too).

so yes. if i wanted to level crafting and at least some psyjic, i would have to actively remove skill points from things I'm actualy using them on.

but all of that justifying aside, I ask you. please. tell me. WHY are you against summerset providing the exact amount of skillpoints needed to max out the skill lines introduced with summerset?

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

"I don't use every skill point therefore those who do shouldn't complain" - nice attitude guys.

If you don't have every skill point available in the game (not even counting maxing out pvp) then this comment is just hot air.

xaraan wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

"I don't use every skill point therefore those who do shouldn't complain" - nice attitude guys.

If you don't have every skill point available in the game (not even counting maxing out pvp) then this comment is just hot air.

Then count this comment as more than just hot air. And now? Does this make any difference in this debate?

It always amazes me how some people here put others down just because their needs don’t fall together with the issues of other peoples. Just for once, try to imagine that other people play this game differently than you do. Why oppose that? Especially if it doesn’t impact you negatively. (Generaly speaking, not directly about you xaraan)

Since we don’t know how many points become available with SS and how many points the new lines will consume, this is a legit concern.

My main is the one I do pve (dd & tank) and pvp (ma & ha,) with. I also do stealing and crafting with it. That means 3 class and 4 weapon lines just for some combinations in combative gameplay. On top of the guilds, world, racial and crafting lines.
Point is that being able to perform more than just one role on one chat will consume a lot more sp than you guys might think it does.

Should have more than enough skill points for the new skill lines. I have 52 points to use on my main, who is also my crafter. And I also heal, tank and DPS on that one too by switching gear and skills around.

Linaleah wrote: »

yes because despite the fact that PVP skill points take insane amount of time to grind even for someone who is a dedicated pvper, let alone a more casual and/or diverse content player - we are not allowed to express concern? DLC skill points are 100% required now? seriously.

you people need to sit down and think about what it is that you are requiring.

Ive done less than 20 hours of PVP, only got about 4 skyshards in Cyrodil, havent completed all dungeons on vet let alone normal, zero skyshards from Craglorn, yet i still have 9 extra skill points on my main that is a master crafter.

You want skill points, play the game.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Summerset is going to push the total skill points in the game to over 400.

You should not have any issues, @Troneon, if you're diligent between now and the May 21st patch drop.

You would be surprised at some of the various builds some of us have. Where we can switch up skills on the fly as need be. Trust me when I say that going through that much skill points can be easy if you know specifically what abilities and passives you absolutely want/need and even picking yourself as a crafter. It is quite skill taxing.

Yamenstein wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

The whole conversation can be reduced to ONE very simple question : does Summerset come with enough new skill points to cover the two new skill lines entirely ?

This question has two possible very precise answers : YES or NO.

@ZOS_Holden , @ZOS_Chris , (and sorry I don't remember the id of the 3rd community rep), would you please care to get this answer for us ?
Thank you.

Chances are no. Which would be totally fine.
But I guess we can just wait until the chapter releases.

My guess is, there will be. Simply because ZOS claimed that newcomers could start and play the game in Summerset, which means they have to get enough skill points there, and also because the current maximum skill points available relies on many DLC content which people will not necessarily have access to. As a result, in order for Summerset to be played as a standalone version of ESO, there must be enough skill points available there.

I don't see why we would have to wait for release to get that info. It's a legit and fair question, and the answer won't spoil anything for anyone.

Im nearly not finished with PVP (22). There are some Dungeons I haven't done. I have all the Skyshards and done 98% of all the quests. I spent many skill point in WW altough im a vampire now.

I maxed nearly all the class active abilities and all passives ones. I maxed every guild passives, and some actives. I have 2 weapons maxed, and all crafting ones (except research because I finished everything and keen eye for balcksmith, woodwork, and runes (I see them from a mile with grass on)).

Also PVP passives and some actives, and ofcourse racial passives and all the armors (except actives). I still have around 15 unused ones .Within 3-4 hours completing the remaining Dungeons and Trials I would have an extra 9.

Yeah it took some time but Skill points shouldn't be something which given so easely would lost its value at endgame. So do the dungeons(they are interesting) and quests(they are mostly well written I encourage you to read them) play some PVP(the first 15 level is so fast) and catch all Skyshards (they are a very good encouragement to explore this beautiful game) and you will be rewarded with a character that can craft and also will be viable at endgame PVP and PVE.

I started to feel that my unspent skillpoints would lost their value totally (I have 17 skill points in WW but now maybe I will have a motivation to free them).

notyuu wrote: »

Having collected every single skyshard in the game, I have plenty enough points to max out every crafting tree, my two weapon passives, racial, guild, class and world passives/skills with almost 60 points left over...soo, the moral of the story is.. the skill points are out there en-mass..just go hunt them down

Only 2 weapon skill line ...try with four to if it s still easy to handle.

There are almost 400 skill points available in game, and only 50 of those are locked behind AR progression.The game got new content for almost 2 years, without any skill line addition. The last one was Dark Brotherhood, and since then we got Shadows of the Hist (2), Morrowind (11), Horns of the Reach (2), Clockwork City (10) and Dragon Bones (2). So a total of 27 skill points that had no new skill line to spend on. If Summerset is about the same effective size as Orsinium and Vvardenfell, you can expect about 18 skyshards (6 skill points), 2 public dungeons with each event giving one and another 3-4 coming from various quest lines, so another 11-12 in total.

Looking at the other crafting skill lines I reckon Jewelry crafting will take between 15-20 skill points to completely fill it, but considering many of the current craft skill line passives are completely redundant (ex. snake blood), we can expect even less to be needed in practice. So you will most likely be able to use the skill points found in Summerset itself to fully spec that skill line. In practice if you have a well traveled character, you will probably already have 20-30 unused skill points anyway, without sacrificing any combat effectiveness.

For example I have 5 characters with between 358-367 skill points and 4 of those are currently researching, yet they have enough skill points to even spec into nearly useless stuff like barely used skills and even hirelings (those suck big time). Incidentally 3 of them will finish research in late May and early June, right at Summerset launch so I can proceed to research all 9 traits in short order, than cross-research

There are more then enough skill points in the game. My main has all his combat skills and even some he doesn't use ( a lot) and has all crafting skills. Sure the is more then enough to put in for jewelcrafting and the new pjigic or something skill line.

And the new area will surely give new points due to skyshards and quests also.