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Psijic Order Skill called "Undo"

  • Knowledge
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Mhm not so great. I really can't think of any situation we're the OP Ultimates that 99% of the playerbase use at the moment will be replaced by Undo - not even in PvP.

    I don't know it sounds just perfect for my Dk. Gonna have to give it a shot before I finally decide tho.

    Better than any other of the top 5 Ultimates? Just by giving you back ressources? How much ressources can you spend in 4 seconds that would make it worth?

    I'm sure some of the better players can spend almost their entire resource pool. Spam Breath of Life Rapidly then Undo.
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    Lord wrote: »
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    This is a super OP ability and it may be game changing, especially in PVP.
    I hope it is an ultimate...
    Eye of the Storm zergs in Cyrodiil with the ability to control time will be disastrous :p

    It was said that the Psijic skill line will be available to ALL regardless of purchase, so it not P2W.

    It was never stated it would be available to all.

    It was mentioned in minute(in the live video, you can re-watch it): 21:27

    What he is stating is that "any race, character, class" essentially can join it. That is what is being stated in different words. Not that you DON'T need to access Summerset to join it. This is clear in the fact that he then goes on to state "you can keep the character you love and have built and use it so you don't have to start over".

    The main argument is that it's not a class and no starting over is needed. It IS required to buy the chapter to use it.

    Well if this is true, this is most unfortunate :/
    An extremely strong ability such as this shouldn't be hidden behind a paywall.
    If this ability is that strong it may be essential in so many ways.
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  • Knowledge
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    The more important aspect of the ability will be getting the health lost in the last 4 seconds back. Burn phase on a boss? Let the healers help burn and everyone just undo as they get closer to death (loose example). Keep Undo on your back bar for this purpose.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    They way I would use it:
    As a stamian build, spam roll dodge, undo, continue after the cooldown is over for infinite roll dodge.
    As a magicka build, simply to never run out of stamina, I'd use it after a break free
    But basically, you could just permablock and undo every 4 seconds for infinite stamina.

    Not sure I'm liking this.

    Can also cast it free with sets like Magnus right? Or after having break free for the imminity
  • Knowledge
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    Xeven wrote: »
    It has a *** cast time and it only rewinds 4 seconds. Your window of opportunity is extremely small. Believe it.

    In PvP sure. Does it help prevent raid wipes?

    It could obviously if it restores your lost HP.
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Mhm not so great. I really can't think of any situation we're the OP Ultimates that 99% of the playerbase use at the moment will be replaced by Undo - not even in PvP.

    I don't know it sounds just perfect for my Dk. Gonna have to give it a shot before I finally decide tho.

    Better than any other of the top 5 Ultimates? Just by giving you back ressources? How much ressources can you spend in 4 seconds that would make it worth?

    Its not the resources that matters here. Its coming back from things like incap debuff, defiles,bleeds, cost poisons etc.

    And keep in mind I have no burst heal, once I'm under %50 hp , a panic leap wont be much help, but rewinding time as soon as I get incapped down to %40 hp for example, could save my life, and potentially save me from burning all my resources trying to recover.

    Of course this is all theory, to be honest with you I am highly considering running purge on my stamDK for a while now, but this could fill the same purpose, we will just have to wait and see.
    Edited by Ragnarock41 on 21 March 2018 21:27
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Confirm more things!
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Mhm not so great. I really can't think of any situation we're the OP Ultimates that 99% of the playerbase use at the moment will be replaced by Undo - not even in PvP.

    I don't know it sounds just perfect for my Dk. Gonna have to give it a shot before I finally decide tho.

    Better than any other of the top 5 Ultimates? Just by giving you back ressources? How much ressources can you spend in 4 seconds that would make it worth?

    Its not the resources that matters here. Its coming back from things like incap debuff, defiles,bleeds, cost poisons etc.

    And keep in mind I have no burst heal, once I'm under %50 hp , a panic leap wont be much help, but rewinding time as soon as I get incapped down to %40 hp for example, could save my life, and potentially save me from burning all my resources trying to recover.

    Imagine running it with Bloodspawn + Werewolf Hide and abilities that generate ultimate or an Asylum Greatsword that builds ultimate.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    They way I would use it:
    As a stamian build, spam roll dodge, undo, continue after the cooldown is over for infinite roll dodge.
    As a magicka build, simply to never run out of stamina, I'd use it after a break free
    But basically, you could just permablock and undo every 4 seconds for infinite stamina.

    Not sure I'm liking this.

    Can also cast it free with sets like Magnus right? Or after having break free for the imminity

    But as we have learned now, it's an ultimate.
    I presume it will be very cheap, like 50 ult perhaps. But at least not entirely spammable. We also don't know, how strong the morph effects are.
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  • Ravereth
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    Can you tell us how much Ultimate it costs?

    600.

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  • Nightfall12
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    With my luck there will be lag and ill undo back to after the attack hit me and I'm most vulnerable….like expecting to be full health, but instead undo to just after that in cap and find myself stunned.
    Ummm stuff… about stuff…or something.
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    I'm all for genuinely interesting abilities so am curious to see how this plays out.

    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
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    The most important thing is, are Psijic monks allowed to have intercourses? There's a BIG GAP in the lore regarding to this.
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Well, that´s disappointing. I hoped for a much more powerful and useful ultimate.
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    Edited by Aliyavana on 21 March 2018 21:34
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Mhm not so great. I really can't think of any situation we're the OP Ultimates that 99% of the playerbase use at the moment will be replaced by Undo - not even in PvP.

    I don't know it sounds just perfect for my Dk. Gonna have to give it a shot before I finally decide tho.

    Better than any other of the top 5 Ultimates? Just by giving you back ressources? How much ressources can you spend in 4 seconds that would make it worth?

    I'm sure some of the better players can spend almost their entire resource pool. Spam Breath of Life Rapidly then Undo.

    And that's better than sticking with the top tier ultimates right now? Nope.

    (oh if I really want to spam BoL and waste my ressources I could use the very cheap Templar healing ultimate).
    Edited by Seraphayel on 21 March 2018 21:35
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    Mitrenga wrote: »
    The most important thing is, are Psijic monks allowed to have intercourses? There's a BIG GAP in the lore regarding to this.

    They would have a better sex life than the high elves, who needed to write a book restricting theirs.
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  • Xsorus
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    Undo, Because we couldn't find anymore ways to make Zergballs stronger *grin*

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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Mhm not so great. I really can't think of any situation we're the OP Ultimates that 99% of the playerbase use at the moment will be replaced by Undo - not even in PvP.

    I don't know it sounds just perfect for my Dk. Gonna have to give it a shot before I finally decide tho.

    Better than any other of the top 5 Ultimates? Just by giving you back ressources? How much ressources can you spend in 4 seconds that would make it worth?

    Its not the resources that matters here. Its coming back from things like incap debuff, defiles,bleeds, cost poisons etc.

    And keep in mind I have no burst heal, once I'm under %50 hp , a panic leap wont be much help, but rewinding time as soon as I get incapped down to %40 hp for example, could save my life, and potentially save me from burning all my resources trying to recover.

    Of course this is all theory, to be honest with you I am highly considering running purge on my stamDK for a while now, but this could fill the same purpose, we will just have to wait and see.

    I still don't see it as good enough to be an Ultimate. For PvE it most likely won't have any use. For PvP... maybe. It just doesn't sound strong enough. Maybe when we see the morphs/cost and it gives some Major buffs... maybe then.
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    Somebody has been playing "Life is Strange".
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    It better be the ultimate. This is such a stupid skill.
  • Elissae
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Somebody has been playing "Life is Strange".

    More like playing Overwatch. "Undo" is pretty much Tracer's Recall, and "Time Stop" is Mei's Blizzard. :p
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    Elissae wrote: »
    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Somebody has been playing "Life is Strange".

    More like playing Overwatch. "Undo" is pretty much Tracer's Recall, and "Time Stop" is Mei's Blizzard. :p

    Time stop just seems like wardens ultimate tbh.
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    Sounds very stronk. Could be used as an anti gank ability. Could also be used as any setup to buy time or get back from a critical mistake. I like it. But without a cooldown, how will they balance it?

    Thought the same thing. Will have to burst someone down in a stun to kill anyone
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    xaraan wrote: »
    I think it should just roll back the whole server 4 seconds anytime any player uses it. See how crazy things get.

    1.6 here we come.
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    We already have a undo ult it's called lag . ZoS just made it a feature .
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    i would strongly suggest this is just pve- like the blade of woe. having it in cyrodil would totaly *** the game. but hey...

    anyway its been 2 years- and no updates to cyrodil- might as well undo the whole thing....good lookin out zos!
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    MakoFore wrote: »
    i would strongly suggest this is just pve- like the blade of woe. having it in cyrodil would totaly *** the game. but hey...

    anyway its been 2 years- and no updates to cyrodil- might as well undo the whole thing....good lookin out zos!

    Well, what actually would it do to balance? When everybody runs "Undo" (which I highly doubt at the moment) ZOS will nerf it until either nobody will use it anymore (Vamp ultimate says hello) or it won't be just another top tier ultimate and be very situational.
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  • Ragnarock41
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Mhm not so great. I really can't think of any situation we're the OP Ultimates that 99% of the playerbase use at the moment will be replaced by Undo - not even in PvP.

    I don't know it sounds just perfect for my Dk. Gonna have to give it a shot before I finally decide tho.

    Better than any other of the top 5 Ultimates? Just by giving you back ressources? How much ressources can you spend in 4 seconds that would make it worth?

    Its not the resources that matters here. Its coming back from things like incap debuff, defiles,bleeds, cost poisons etc.

    And keep in mind I have no burst heal, once I'm under %50 hp , a panic leap wont be much help, but rewinding time as soon as I get incapped down to %40 hp for example, could save my life, and potentially save me from burning all my resources trying to recover.

    Imagine running it with Bloodspawn + Werewolf Hide and abilities that generate ultimate or an Asylum Greatsword that builds ultimate.

    Already have all of those sets and items. I always have a high uptime on any ultimate I use, but the real question here is that, will I get battle roar bonus for using this ultimate? I'm assuming it will proc battle roar. If not, then I'm in for a disappointment.
    Edited by Ragnarock41 on 21 March 2018 21:54
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    I wonder if you could use this with thieving and bounty….the guards would have to apologize and give back your stuff
    Ummm stuff… about stuff…or something.
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