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Psijic Order Skill called "Undo"

  • leepalmer95
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    Can it rewind time before the p2w and everyones not running around with 30k hp in heavy.
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  • Ragnarock41
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    You thought ganks from stealth were annoying before... twice as nice!

    Oh yeah... Nightblade sneak attack, use Undo, redo it again. Guaranteed assassination.

    Nbs already have a reset button. Its called cloak. Meanwhile for us normal folks this is a game changer.
  • Casul
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    No one sees the real benefit here... as a magblade I can now teleport to my shade and then teleport back where I was within 4 seconds. This sounds very strong.
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  • bardx86
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    Oh, no! A measly 4 seconds.

    Imagine you were about to die and you used it preventing your death and giving you back vital resources. Or you used an ability that cost tremendous amounts of resources and used it to get them back to do it again.

    It's probably the ultimate. Otherwise it's broken in sustain.

    i sure hope so
  • MasterSpatula
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    This sounds like a really cool ability, but if people are thinking that the amount of calculations the game has to do during combat is high NOW, imagine what it'll be with this in the game.

    Hoping they implement this in a clever and lag-avoiding way.
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  • Xeven
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    It has a *** cast time and it only rewinds 4 seconds. Your window of opportunity is extremely small. Believe it.

    Edited by Xeven on 21 March 2018 20:46
  • ak_pvp
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    Turelus wrote: »
    This is going to be so interesting to use. I can't wait to see how we break the game with it. :sweat_smile:

    Nothing that wouldn't have been broken before since its only a restore not teleportation. Seems fun to bait people into a trap.
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  • Donari
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    It sounds very similar to the GW2 Chronomancer Continuum Rift, and while obviously the two games are very different in play and balance, at least there it hasn't proved severely unbalancing.
  • xaraan
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    Don't forget, this could be the Ultimate. Not just a spammable skill.
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  • Danikat
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    Sounds a lot like Guild Wars 2's Continuum Split skill: "Destroy all your clones and create a rift in the space-time continuum. When it expires, you will revert back to this point with your previous health, endurance and skill recharges. Duration increases per illusion shattered."

    It's basically a heal/regen skill with a 4-second delay. So it could be the thing that saves your life, if you can see the killing blow coming in time to activate it, or you could activate it just too late and you'll be dead before it goes off, or you might just waste it.

    I suppose the big question is what's the cost - what's to stop someone spamming it every few seconds just in case they do need it? If it's an ultimate or costs enough magicka (I assume it'll be a magicka ability) that doing that will leave you unable to do anything else and you have to save it until you think you're going to need it then I doubt it will be a problem.
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  • Seraphayel
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    You can see three of the skills here:

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/updates/chapter/summerset

    TIME STOP

    Freeze the passage of time at a specific location. Should you catch your enemies within this ability, they'll be slowed and eventually frozen in place, giving you the opportunity to make your move!

    MEDITATE

    Focus your mind and body into a deep meditative state. While active, you will restore Health, Stamina, and Magicka over time. Perfect for those who want to reflect upon and recover from a tough fight.

    UNDO

    Become a true master of time and step backwards into the past to instantly reset your Health, Magicka, and Stamina to what they were only four seconds ago. If the battle isn't going your way, reset the board!
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    Sounds very stronk. Could be used as an anti gank ability. Could also be used as any setup to buy time or get back from a critical mistake. I like it. But without a cooldown, how will they balance it?

    Maybe it's the ultimate.
  • Knowledge
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Sounds a lot like Guild Wars 2's Continuum Split skill: "Destroy all your clones and create a rift in the space-time continuum. When it expires, you will revert back to this point with your previous health, endurance and skill recharges. Duration increases per illusion shattered."

    It's basically a heal/regen skill with a 4-second delay. So it could be the thing that saves your life, if you can see the killing blow coming in time to activate it, or you could activate it just too late and you'll be dead before it goes off, or you might just waste it.

    I suppose the big question is what's the cost - what's to stop someone spamming it every few seconds just in case they do need it? If it's an ultimate or costs enough magicka (I assume it'll be a magicka ability) that doing that will leave you unable to do anything else and you have to save it until you think you're going to need it then I doubt it will be a problem.

    Well, during the twitch stream they stated it "will probably need a balance patch at some point" alluding to the fact that it might be a bit strong right now.
  • Universe
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    This is a super OP ability and it may be game changing, especially in PVP.
    I hope it is an ultimate...
    Eye of the Storm zergs in Cyrodiil with the ability to control time will be disastrous :p

    Edit: To remove some misunderstanding.
    Edited by Universe on 21 March 2018 22:17
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    considering how strong wardens were out the box - you already know this psijic skill line is gonna cause a salt waterfall in cyrodiil...

    Except wardens were compete junk in PvE (and still are).
  • Elissae
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    Cheers love, the cavalry's here? ;)
  • Cinbri
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    More hyped about Meditation and it possible morphs.

    spoil.jpg
    Edited by Cinbri on 21 March 2018 20:52
  • Knowledge
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    Lord wrote: »
    This is a super OP ability and it may be game changing, especially in PVP.
    I hope it is an ultimate...
    Eye of the Storm zergs in Cyrodiil with the ability to control time will be disastrous :p

    It was said that the Psijic skill line will be available to ALL regardless of purchase, so it not P2W.

    It was never stated it would be available to all.
  • clocksstoppe
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    This sounds like a really cool ability, but if people are thinking that the amount of calculations the game has to do during combat is high NOW, imagine what it'll be with this in the game.

    Hoping they implement this in a clever and lag-avoiding way.

    This is a memory problem more so than calculations. You have to keep up a buffer of 4 seconds worth of resource and player position when that skill is slotted, assuming it's instant. You can also sacrifice quality for performance by having this buffer only use seconds as "snapshots" instead of game frames, in which case the performance footprint would be virtually zero.
  • Dracane
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    They way I would use it:
    As a stamian build, spam roll dodge, undo, continue after the cooldown is over for infinite roll dodge.
    As a magicka build, simply to never run out of stamina, I'd use it after a break free
    But basically, you could just permablock and undo every 4 seconds for infinite stamina.

    Not sure I'm liking this.
    Edited by Dracane on 21 March 2018 20:55
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  • majulook
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    Probably has cast time that makes it not very useful as a life saver when under attack.
    Most likely a ultimate, or uses a lot of a particular resource.
    Pretty sure you cannot use it if your dead.

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  • Rickter
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    It sounds like nightblades shadow image ability except this one grants hp stam and mag as well.

    sounds op

    it would give every owner of Summerset the ability to reset the fight as well if not better than a nightblade
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  • Ley
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    They specifically said that skill line will be available as part of the base game. Stop spreading misinformation.
    Edit: My apologies, they said "it would be available to all" but in the context it doesn't necesarilly mean to all even if they don't have the expansion.
    Edited by Ley on 21 March 2018 22:46
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  • Knowledge
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    Dracane wrote: »
    They way I would use it: As a stamian build, spam roll dodge, undo, continue after the cooldown is over for infinite roll dodge.
    As a magicka build, simply to never run out of stamina, I'd use it after a break free
    But basically, you could just permablock and undo every 4 seconds for infinite stamina.

    Not sure I'm liking this.

    Or wait until someone wastes their ultimate, assuming you have a way to survive it, then "undo" to get all of your missing health back.
  • AjiBuster499
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    What about, if you were dead 4 seconds ago.

    Will you die?
    Will you become Molag Bal?
    :trollface:
    tfw your sig gets wound back in time.
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  • Universe
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    Lord wrote: »
    This is a super OP ability and it may be game changing, especially in PVP.
    I hope it is an ultimate...
    Eye of the Storm zergs in Cyrodiil with the ability to control time will be disastrous :p

    It was said that the Psijic skill line will be available to ALL regardless of purchase, so it not P2W.

    It was never stated it would be available to all.

    It was mentioned in minute(in the live video, you can re-watch it): 21:27
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    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
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  • Knowledge
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    Ley wrote: »
    They specifically said that skill line will be available as part of the base game. Stop spreading misinformation.

    Can you cite your source. I'm not sure how that is possible since you must "join the Psijic Order" which requires you to have access to the expansion area.

    From the site: Should you join the order, you'll have access to an all-new Skill Line that includes new Active Abilities, new Passive Abilities, and a powerful Ultimate. Below are just a few of the powers that you'll weild as a member of the Psijic Order.
  • clocksstoppe
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    What about, if you were dead 4 seconds ago.

    Will you die?
    Will you become Molag Bal?
    :trollface:

    Your health was 0 seconds ago if you were dead so it would kill you.
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    majulook wrote: »
    Probably has cast time that makes it not very useful as a life saver when under attack.
    Most likely a ultimate, or uses a lot of a particular resource.
    Pretty sure you cannot use it if your dead.

    With a cast time, it could be useful after a stun or root. Something like:

    Snipe>Invasion>Reverb>Undo>Snipe>Invasion>Heavy Attack
  • shinikaze
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    the skill will probably be an expensive ultimate and will take your stats 4 sec in the past like before a used my rally and drank my pot. Oh crap my health is back to 3k! meaning it might actually be a balanced not bis skill (specially if it's an ult) :P
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