My one complaint with new "outfits"
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Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭You can dye your equipped armor for free by making sure an outfit is NOT selected at the dye station.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Alright, let's answer this question again.
To dye your equipped gear for free, you need to select "No Outfit" in the drop down menu at the Outfitting Station. You will see that there is NO gold counter and you cannot dye your weapons. This works exactly like the old dye station.
To dye your outfit for gold, you need to select "Outfit 1" or whatever you named your outfit(s). You will see a gold counter and you can dye your weapons. It will cost gold or crown tokens to create/dye your outfit.
The confusion comes from the way your Outfit 1 defaults to the appearance of your equipped gear so that it looks like you are dyeing your equipped gear when you are actually dyeing your outfit (for gold). Use the No Outfit option to dye your equipped gear for free.7 -
Grimm13✭✭✭✭✭
✭If this is your one complaint and as pointed out you had looked at it incorrectly. Then I guess you have not figured out that purchasing extra Outfit Slots is per character and are not account wide yet, nor that the one Outfit slot for the single character costs as much as a DLC.
Just want to make certain you are forewarned.6 -
Eirianbryn30✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Alright, let's answer this question again.
To dye your equipped gear for free, you need to select "No Outfit" in the drop down menu at the Outfitting Station. You will see that there is NO gold counter and you cannot dye your weapons. This works exactly like the old dye station.
To dye your outfit for gold, you need to select "Outfit 1" or whatever you named your outfit(s). You will see a gold counter and you can dye your weapons. It will cost gold or crown tokens to create/dye your outfit.
The confusion comes from the way your Outfit 1 defaults to the appearance of your equipped gear so that it looks like you are dyeing your equipped gear when you are actually dyeing your outfit (for gold). Use the No Outfit option to dye your equipped gear for free.
Thank you! I was so upset when I went to go dye my armor the other day. I wish they had some tool tips that popped up the first time you go to an outfit station.4 -
Eirianbryn30✭✭If this is your one complaint and as pointed out you had looked at it incorrectly. Then I guess you have not figured out that purchasing extra Outfit Slots is per character and are not account wide yet, nor that the one Outfit slot for the single character costs as much as a DLC.
Just want to make certain you are forewarned.
I knew that, but wasn't really upset by it. I do wish you could preview your choices all together before you buy. Not one piece at a time.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Eirianbryn30 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Alright, let's answer this question again.
To dye your equipped gear for free, you need to select "No Outfit" in the drop down menu at the Outfitting Station. You will see that there is NO gold counter and you cannot dye your weapons. This works exactly like the old dye station.
To dye your outfit for gold, you need to select "Outfit 1" or whatever you named your outfit(s). You will see a gold counter and you can dye your weapons. It will cost gold or crown tokens to create/dye your outfit.
The confusion comes from the way your Outfit 1 defaults to the appearance of your equipped gear so that it looks like you are dyeing your equipped gear when you are actually dyeing your outfit (for gold). Use the No Outfit option to dye your equipped gear for free.
Thank you! I was so upset when I went to go dye my armor the other day. I wish they had some tool tips that popped up the first time you go to an outfit station.
Yeah, the way the Outfit 1 defaults to the appearance of your equipped gear is just unnecessarily confusing.1 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I tried out the outfit system on the PTS and I've been playing around with outfits since it was released and this still confuses me sometimes.
I'm slowly getting into the habit of looking to see if I can dye my weapons (the biggest, most obvious difference) before I start messing around with dyes, but I still get caught out sometimes and have to switch to no outfit and re-do it.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"1 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Eirianbryn30 wrote: »Thank you! I was so upset when I went to go dye my armor the other day. I wish they had some tool tips that popped up the first time you go to an outfit station.
No tool tips?
That’s when I check the patch notes ... or do a simple search in the forums for help.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »Eirianbryn30 wrote: »Thank you! I was so upset when I went to go dye my armor the other day. I wish they had some tool tips that popped up the first time you go to an outfit station.
No tool tips?
That’s when I check the patch notes ... or do a simple search in the forums for help.
Yeah, but its a super easy mistake to make. The first time you look at your outfit, it looks identical to your equipped gear down to the monster helm so anyone overwhelmed by the new UI can easily start dyeing their outfit thinking its their equipped gear and not know any different. And then they do post in the forums wondering why it costs gold to dye their armor, because it was an easy mistake to think they were dyeing their equipped gear.3 -
Gargath✭✭✭✭✭
✭My one complaint is that Glass Staff costs me 6k gold in outfit station. 6k for an overlay. Plus extra for a dye.PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."1 -
Donari✭✭✭✭Eirianbryn30 wrote: »If this is your one complaint and as pointed out you had looked at it incorrectly. Then I guess you have not figured out that purchasing extra Outfit Slots is per character and are not account wide yet, nor that the one Outfit slot for the single character costs as much as a DLC.
Just want to make certain you are forewarned.
I knew that, but wasn't really upset by it. I do wish you could preview your choices all together before you buy. Not one piece at a time.
But ... you can? That's how so many people have posted pictures taken at the Outfit Station of outfits they've designed using motifs they don't know. Put a piece on, use the tab list to select a different armor location, choose a piece for that one, go to dyes, add them -- you pay nothing until you select the finalize and pay option. You can swap out all the armor pieces freely for as long as you want, and right-click clear the chosen item or dye slot on the left side if you just want to go back to your actual gear's look. At least on PC. I have no idea how controllers do it.1 -
radiostar✭✭✭✭✭
✭When you first walk up to the Outfit Station, it should display No Outfit by default. But sometimes it doesn't, it displays Outfit 1. So players get confused.
Just use the drop down selector to show No Outfit, and you can dye your gear using your known dyes for free. (No Outfit is free, any Outfit dyeing cost money)."Billions upon Billions of Stars"0 -
Eirianbryn30✭✭Eirianbryn30 wrote: »If this is your one complaint and as pointed out you had looked at it incorrectly. Then I guess you have not figured out that purchasing extra Outfit Slots is per character and are not account wide yet, nor that the one Outfit slot for the single character costs as much as a DLC.
Just want to make certain you are forewarned.
I knew that, but wasn't really upset by it. I do wish you could preview your choices all together before you buy. Not one piece at a time.
But ... you can? That's how so many people have posted pictures taken at the Outfit Station of outfits they've designed using motifs they don't know. Put a piece on, use the tab list to select a different armor location, choose a piece for that one, go to dyes, add them -- you pay nothing until you select the finalize and pay option. You can swap out all the armor pieces freely for as long as you want, and right-click clear the chosen item or dye slot on the left side if you just want to go back to your actual gear's look. At least on PC. I have no idea how controllers do it.
I've tried. I'm on ps4. I select an option. To keep it I get a cost at the bottom of the screen. If I go back it looses my option I selected. Maybe I'm missing a step? Or an obvious "bite me if it were a dog" but I don't want to accidentally spend gold just to preview.0 -
Eirianbryn30✭✭When you first walk up to the Outfit Station, it should display No Outfit by default. But sometimes it doesn't, it displays Outfit 1. So players get confused.
Just use the drop down selector to show No Outfit, and you can dye your gear using your known dyes for free. (No Outfit is free, any Outfit dyeing cost money).
Yeah I was confused. Also not so obvious is the hide helm option. Lol took me some fumbling around to find that.
@ Taleof2cities And I'm sorry ZOS patch notes aren't always clearEdited by Eirianbryn30 on 12 March 2018 14:470 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Eirianbryn30 wrote: »Eirianbryn30 wrote: »If this is your one complaint and as pointed out you had looked at it incorrectly. Then I guess you have not figured out that purchasing extra Outfit Slots is per character and are not account wide yet, nor that the one Outfit slot for the single character costs as much as a DLC.
Just want to make certain you are forewarned.
I knew that, but wasn't really upset by it. I do wish you could preview your choices all together before you buy. Not one piece at a time.
But ... you can? That's how so many people have posted pictures taken at the Outfit Station of outfits they've designed using motifs they don't know. Put a piece on, use the tab list to select a different armor location, choose a piece for that one, go to dyes, add them -- you pay nothing until you select the finalize and pay option. You can swap out all the armor pieces freely for as long as you want, and right-click clear the chosen item or dye slot on the left side if you just want to go back to your actual gear's look. At least on PC. I have no idea how controllers do it.
I've tried. I'm on ps4. I select an option. To keep it I get a cost at the bottom of the screen. If I go back it looses my option I selected. Maybe I'm missing a step? Or an obvious "bite me if it were a dog" but I don't want to accidentally spend gold just to preview.
You can change the armor styles and dyes as much as you want while still inside the Outfit Station screen. The gold cost is changed as you change styles as a running total that is only applied when you leave the outfit station. If you want to walk around and look at the outfit outside of the outfit station, you'll have to pay the gold cost. Otherwise, as long as you stay in teh Outfit Station screen, you can experiment as much as you want.
That causes a problem with guild tabard, since certain motifs turn the chest piece jet black when equipped with a tabard, but its impossible to know that from the outfit station screen itself. However, that shouldn't be an issue if you just want to preview different outfits.
Alternatively, you can preview different styles from your Collections. Go to Collections ->Outfit Tab and you can preview the items you can use or learn for outfits. I'm not sure if that lets you preview an entire outfit or just one piece at a time, since I've always used the outfit station for that.1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TelvanniWizard wrote: »Still, outfit dyeing could be free. Would be a detail.
Could. But then they couldn't sell Outfit Tokens in the Crown Store as an alternative way to pay the cost. The entire Outfit System was monetized by ZOS deliberately. The gold cost is partly a gold sink and mostly there as an inconvenience to push players towards buying Outfit Tokens and more outfit slots.1 -
Eirianbryn30✭✭I have a small collection of dye sets from the crown store from using up small amounts of crowns here and there. . I'm not sure of the gold to crown conversion, but I'll use my dye sets before I spend gold.0
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Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Eirianbryn30 wrote: »I have a small collection of dye sets from the crown store from using up small amounts of crowns here and there. . I'm not sure of the gold to crown conversion, but I'll use my dye sets before I spend gold.
That won't work for outfits though... the crown store dye sets work only on costumes not outfits.0 -
Eirianbryn30✭✭Eirianbryn30 wrote: »I have a small collection of dye sets from the crown store from using up small amounts of crowns here and there. . I'm not sure of the gold to crown conversion, but I'll use my dye sets before I spend gold.
That won't work for outfits though... the crown store dye sets work only on costumes not outfits.
I know. I haven't created any outfits yet.0
