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To many opened chests
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Pheefs✭✭✭✭✭I thought they left behind the free hemming & honing stones because they know how much I need them!
but the one that gets me down, even though I know it's still going to respawn, is harvesting a rune for a single Ta
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SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
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If you are farming chests, you are running a chest route using waypoint markers.VaranisArano wrote: »The question isn't whether or not it will respawn. Its whether or not it respawn before some other player spots it, runs up thinking they got lucky and they'll get the xp, gold, and potentially good loot inside only to find out that they get no xp, probably no gold, and the junk you left behind.
Having a chest that has leftovers will at most add a few seconds or if you are like me, maybe one second, because i just grab whatever is in there anyways.
Then you are off to the next chest.
There really is no difference, either you have a chest or you don't. If the player in front of you had taken everything, there would be no chest and you would see an empty spot.
I always autoloot/lootall when i'm farming chests so again, no difference at all, i grab whatever is in the chest and sort it out later.
It's also a time waster in trying for what really matters is BA motifs in VV
But you are not wasting any time. That's my point.
Someone already took the good stuff out of the chest. If they had emptied it there would be no chest.
You are not missing out on motifs, it's either someone took everything and there is no chest or someone took the good stuff and there is a chest with leftovers.
Either way, you were never going to get a motif.
Just move on to the next chest spot like you would have done anyways ...
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Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
True but its still toxic to leave opened chests
no, YOU are toxic. you want people to feel bad if they dont loot everything. You want people to hate other players if they dont loot everything. You are the one bringing toxicity to this. ZOS should be shutting YOU down for inciting hatred of other players.
Nope. You must not have been raised right to think this behavior is alright.
Knowingly screwing over other people.
Shameful. You and others of your ilk should be called out.
All being raised properly means is being conditioned or brought up to live and act within certain social confines, which differ as to the culture they belong to. What is proper in one culture may be improper in another. Hell, what you find proper in your culture may have been improper a few decades ago, or may be improper a few decades into the future.
Propriety is not a constant in the world, and you'd do better to bank on more than that wishy washy variable.Edited by Judas Helviaryn on 11 March 2018 03:061 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
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If you are farming chests, you are running a chest route using waypoint markers.VaranisArano wrote: »The question isn't whether or not it will respawn. Its whether or not it respawn before some other player spots it, runs up thinking they got lucky and they'll get the xp, gold, and potentially good loot inside only to find out that they get no xp, probably no gold, and the junk you left behind.
Having a chest that has leftovers will at most add a few seconds or if you are like me, maybe one second, because i just grab whatever is in there anyways.
Then you are off to the next chest.
There really is no difference, either you have a chest or you don't. If the player in front of you had taken everything, there would be no chest and you would see an empty spot.
I always autoloot/lootall when i'm farming chests so again, no difference at all, i grab whatever is in the chest and sort it out later.
It's also a time waster in trying for what really matters is BA motifs in VV
But you are not wasting any time. That's my point.
Someone already took the good stuff out of the chest. If they had emptied it there would be no chest.
You are not missing out on motifs, it either someone took everything and there is no chest or someone took the good stuff and there is a chest with leftovers.
Either way, you were never going to get a motif.
Just move on to the next chest spot like you would have done anyways ...
If there was no chest, I'd have moved past that spot without stopping.
Since there is a chest, I have to stop, see that its been used, check to see if there's anything useful in there, and decide if I'm going to also leave the trash behind to annoy another player.1 -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »If there was no chest, I'd have moved past that spot without stopping.
Since there is a chest, I have to stop, see that its been used, check to see if there's anything useful in there, and decide if I'm going to also leave the trash behind to annoy another player.
If that's how you operate then you are not farming chests, you're just strolling around the countryside.
If you are not farming, a few extra seconds don't matter.
If you are farming you are on auto loot (or use "take all"). In which case the time you are losing is negligible.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »If there was no chest, I'd have moved past that spot without stopping.
Since there is a chest, I have to stop, see that its been used, check to see if there's anything useful in there, and decide if I'm going to also leave the trash behind to annoy another player.
If that's how you operate then you are not farming chests, you're just strolling around the countryside.
If you are not farming, a few extra seconds don't matter.
If you are farming you are on auto loot (or use "take all"). In which case the time you are losing is negligible.
I still have to stop. I still don't get the xp I would have gotten for force-lock opening the chest. I still don't get the gold or nice gear that I could have gotten. Its still annoying to run up,to a chest and discover that, no, I'm not going to,get the open the chest, Ive gotten someone's leaving. I personally find that far more annoying than simply finding no chests.
Oh, and I do use auto loot (on the character I farm with, but not on all characters, where I still dont leave trash behind). If the people we're discussing here did that, we wouldn't have a problem, would we?3 -
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✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »If there was no chest, I'd have moved past that spot without stopping.
Since there is a chest, I have to stop, see that its been used, check to see if there's anything useful in there, and decide if I'm going to also leave the trash behind to annoy another player.
If that's how you operate then you are not farming chests, you're just strolling around the countryside.
If you are not farming, a few extra seconds don't matter.
If you are farming you are on auto loot (or use "take all"). In which case the time you are losing is negligible.
I still have to stop. I still don't get the xp I would have gotten for force-lock opening the chest. I still don't get the gold or nice gear that I could have gotten. Its still annoying to run up,to a chest and discover that, no, I'm not going to,get the open the chest, Ive gotten someone's leaving. I personally find that far more annoying than simply finding no chests.
Oh, and I do use auto loot (on the character I farm with, but not on all characters, where I still dont leave trash behind). If the people we're discussing here did that, we wouldn't have a problem, would we?
Or the BA motif that could have been there if in VVarden0 -
Slick_007✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
Nope. You must not have been raised right to think this behavior is alright.
Knowingly screwing over other people.
Shameful. You and others of your ilk should be called out.
you havent been raised right if you think inciting hatred of people in a computer game and its forums is acceptable. and thats what you are doing. I will not feel bad walking around cyrodiil and running out of bag space, in a place where i cant pull out my merchant, and leaving stuff i dont want in a chest. If its worse than what im carrying, i'll leave it. Dont do if often, id rather sell the stuff for money, but if it happens, oh well. I dont give it a second thought. Why should i?
ZOS should be shutting you people down for your constantly creating threads about your outright hatred of people who dont work for you in the game. I am not your servant and do not think i, and others, should act like it. We are not here to do your bidding or spend our time dealing with things we are not interested in, just to save you time. Our time is more important than yours. Every single second of it.
You want me to spend my time doing things for you. Thats called a job. When you start paying me, i'll start doing it 100% of the time. Til then, if you cant handle it, find a single player game and stop inciting hatred.Edited by Slick_007 on 11 March 2018 03:423 -
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✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
Nope. You must not have been raised right to think this behavior is alright.
Knowingly screwing over other people.
Shameful. You and others of your ilk should be called out.
you havent been raised right if you think inciting hatred of people in a computer game and its forums is acceptable. and thats what you are doing. I will not feel bad walking around cyrodiil and running out of back bag space, in a place where i cant pull out my merchant, and leaving stuff i dont want in a chest. If its worse than what im carrying, i'll leave it. Dont do if often, id rather sell the stuff for money, but if it happens, oh well. I dont give it a second thought. Why should i?
ZOS should be shutting you people down for your constantly creating threads about your outright hatred of people who dont work for you in the game. I am not your servant and do not think i, and others, should act like it. We are not here to do your bidding or spend our time dealing with things we are not interested in, just to save you time. Our time is more important than yours. Every single second of it.
You want me to spend my time doing things for you. Thats called a job. When you start paying me, i'll start doing it 100% of the time. Til then, if you cant handle it, find a single player game and stop inciting hatred.
So your claiming the people that leave opened chests are being courteous, really that is some really biased opinion I have ever heard.Edited by Cpt_Teemo on 11 March 2018 03:425 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
Nope. You must not have been raised right to think this behavior is alright.
Knowingly screwing over other people.
Shameful. You and others of your ilk should be called out.
you havent been raised right if you think inciting hatred of people in a computer game and its forums is acceptable. and thats what you are doing. I will not feel bad walking around cyrodiil and running out of bag space, in a place where i cant pull out my merchant, and leaving stuff i dont want in a chest. If its worse than what im carrying, i'll leave it. Dont do if often, id rather sell the stuff for money, but if it happens, oh well. I dont give it a second thought. Why should i?
ZOS should be shutting you people down for your constantly creating threads about your outright hatred of people who dont work for you in the game. I am not your servant and do not think i, and others, should act like it. We are not here to do your bidding or spend our time dealing with things we are not interested in, just to save you time. Our time is more important than yours. Every single second of it.
You want me to spend my time doing things for you. Thats called a job. When you start paying me, i'll start doing it 100% of the time. Til then, if you cant handle it, find a single player game and stop inciting hatred.
Sure, sure, let's use the example of Cyrodiil where you can't pull out your merchant like that has anything to do with the OP's issue with chest farming in Vvardenfell or indeed the examples of most of us where it happens in base game zones. Or are you going to say that you have no problem vendoring all the base game junk gear since you can use your merchant? Oh, and inventory management hint here, you can always mail items you want to keep to a trusted friend to bounce back to you (unless you have no trusted friends, in which case I'm sorry).
I don't hate people of your ilk. I just get annoyed when I run up to a chest, expecting that, like a normal chest, I'll be able to open it for xp, gold, and potentially good loot and instead I get no xp, no gold, and whatever junk you decided to leave behind. To adapt the words of the Bard, "[that chest] is a fusty nut with no kernel!"
I want you to finish the job you started. Open the chest, empty the chest. Easy! No fusty nuts with no kernels!4 -
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✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
Nope. You must not have been raised right to think this behavior is alright.
Knowingly screwing over other people.
Shameful. You and others of your ilk should be called out.
you havent been raised right if you think inciting hatred of people in a computer game and its forums is acceptable. and thats what you are doing. I will not feel bad walking around cyrodiil and running out of bag space, in a place where i cant pull out my merchant, and leaving stuff i dont want in a chest. If its worse than what im carrying, i'll leave it. Dont do if often, id rather sell the stuff for money, but if it happens, oh well. I dont give it a second thought. Why should i?
ZOS should be shutting you people down for your constantly creating threads about your outright hatred of people who dont work for you in the game. I am not your servant and do not think i, and others, should act like it. We are not here to do your bidding or spend our time dealing with things we are not interested in, just to save you time. Our time is more important than yours. Every single second of it.
You want me to spend my time doing things for you. Thats called a job. When you start paying me, i'll start doing it 100% of the time. Til then, if you cant handle it, find a single player game and stop inciting hatred.
Hatred? Bit dramatic, that. It's a philosophical difference. Those who are considerate and those who are selfish.
You have every right to carry on as you do vis a vis chests, knock yourself out but to expect others to be okay with it and pile on evocative words...well, you'll get called on it. Shouldn't surprise you.Think of it as a "trash removal tax".
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Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
Nope. You must not have been raised right to think this behavior is alright.
Knowingly screwing over other people.
Shameful. You and others of your ilk should be called out.
you havent been raised right if you think inciting hatred of people in a computer game and its forums is acceptable. and thats what you are doing. I will not feel bad walking around cyrodiil and running out of bag space, in a place where i cant pull out my merchant, and leaving stuff i dont want in a chest. If its worse than what im carrying, i'll leave it. Dont do if often, id rather sell the stuff for money, but if it happens, oh well. I dont give it a second thought. Why should i?
ZOS should be shutting you people down for your constantly creating threads about your outright hatred of people who dont work for you in the game. I am not your servant and do not think i, and others, should act like it. We are not here to do your bidding or spend our time dealing with things we are not interested in, just to save you time. Our time is more important than yours. Every single second of it.
You want me to spend my time doing things for you. Thats called a job. When you start paying me, i'll start doing it 100% of the time. Til then, if you cant handle it, find a single player game and stop inciting hatred.
Let’s be clear: I don’t hate you at all. I certainly chuckle at your defense of your actions.
ESO is an MMO. The game and world doesn’t revolve around just you.
You pretend like your time is more valuable than the next person. With that lack of awareness, consideration of others it must be a sad and lonely world you live in.4 -
Slick_007✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
Let’s be clear: I don’t hate you at all. I certainly chuckle at your defense of your actions.
let me be clear: YOU ARE INCITING HATRED. You are trying to put people down who do things you dont agree with, and trying to get others to share your views and assist you. YOU ARE INCITING HATRED. ZOS should be the ones putting you down and ending this.VaranisArano wrote: »Or are you going to say that you have no problem vendoring all the base game junk gear since you can use your merchant? Oh, and inventory management hint here, you can always mail items you want to keep to a trusted friend to bounce back to you (unless you have no trusted friends, in which case I'm sorry).
i rarely leave anything in chests. id much rather i got money for it than someone else. and pretty much everything can be sold. But sometimes (usually cyrodiil) its so far to go to sell stuff that its not worth my time. And it gets left. On the way back to a vendor, there more chests. I will not pass them by just because my bags are full. Hey, i wonder if that chest has the motif im after? oh, bags are full. i better not look. God forbid cpt_teemo comes along and finds the chest afterwards. he might be upset. Yeh, that wont happen, and none of you could truthfully say you would not loot it either.
I dont have to justify myself to you rude, arrogant people, but FYI, i cant even recall the last time i left something in a chest. But i will not put up with all this *** from you haters telling me im inconsiderate and scum and all the other insults you throw out there. I seriously doubt anyone does this thinking oh next person to come along will get a surprise. It happens. You can deal with it, or find a new game. Because this trash talk from you people will not stop it, nor deter people. All it does is incite hatred. And that you are doing deliberately. This is why these threads need to stop and ZOS should end you from creating them.2 -
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✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »[
You pretend like your time is more valuable than the next person.
who is pretending? my time is more valuable than yours. The more you abuse people for not working for you in the game, the bigger the difference.1 -
Maryal✭✭✭✭✭
✭hi...multiple players told me when i complained about the use chests in zone that it does not matter the chest will disappear after a timer and it will appear full and locked and told me to try and wait near a chest(and hope its one of those with short timer) and check the story for myself. But considering i have autoloot on and i was on a chest run i did not stop to verify that. But it might be true.
It does time out but takes less than 5 minutes for it to do so. I've tested it myself.
I do however think they should reduce the timer to 60 seconds from opening it. If you are wondering chests are under the same time down as group dungeon chests as well. For those wondering yes I do not have auto loot on and yes I do take everything from chests. If it is nodes I generally take everything, well except for clockwork city for those crafting dailies... take everything except quest item. You would be surprised at how quick the refresh for those things are.
That may be true for treasure chests you find in dungeons, delves, trials, as well as treasure-map chests, but I don't believe it works that way for treasure chests that spawn topside.
They do, I've checked that as well. Wasn't easy but I did test it. Works the same way.
That is really strange, because when I farm (been farming in Hews Bane since it went live), treasure chests with junk items left in them sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there. Maybe ZOS did recode topside chests. I'll check it out.
I've tested it with the chests that spawn right outside of exorcised coven cottage. Picked one item out of it and literally waited by it. Good ol' trusty clock right next to me as well. I even checked when I saw this thing to make sure if I was remembering how long it took to reset. But as for the no excuse thing that does seem to be a bit extreme... you can't possibly know their inventory or what they have but I feel like majority are people that don't have the merchant. Talked to some that do it and that is a common response from them. I tend to not care too much and take stuff and rather prefer they take everything if they can and destroy what they don't want.
Sorry it took so long to get back on this. So there I was in Hew's Bane, standing guard over a chest with the junk I had left in it. I spammed in in chat what I was doing, thinking others would leave it alone .... but did they? Hahahahaha ... no (I totally forgot about the anniversary event going on there). Yea, so it took a while, but I finally got a lucky break when others in the area were nice enough to leave the chest alone during the 'test.' (Note: testing to see if topside chests with junk left inside de-spawned on their own, and if so, how long it takes.)
Well, you will be pleased to know that not only did I eat a slice of humble pie, but I at the whole thing! LOL! You were right ... they do de-spawn. It took 10 minutes for the chest with junk left in it (Hew's Bane) to de-spawn. Although, in my defense, 10 minutes feels like an incredibly long time when on your 'farming route' going as fast as you can to get from one node or spawn point to the next (it's an efficiency thing to get the maximum amount in the least amount of time possible).
Anyway, thank you for your insistence and politeness regarding the issue.Edited by Maryal on 11 March 2018 10:151 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
Let’s be clear: I don’t hate you at all. I certainly chuckle at your defense of your actions.
let me be clear: YOU ARE INCITING HATRED. You are trying to put people down who do things you dont agree with, and trying to get others to share your views and assist you. YOU ARE INCITING HATRED. ZOS should be the ones putting you down and ending this.VaranisArano wrote: »Or are you going to say that you have no problem vendoring all the base game junk gear since you can use your merchant? Oh, and inventory management hint here, you can always mail items you want to keep to a trusted friend to bounce back to you (unless you have no trusted friends, in which case I'm sorry).
i rarely leave anything in chests. id much rather i got money for it than someone else. and pretty much everything can be sold. But sometimes (usually cyrodiil) its so far to go to sell stuff that its not worth my time. And it gets left. On the way back to a vendor, there more chests. I will not pass them by just because my bags are full. Hey, i wonder if that chest has the motif im after? oh, bags are full. i better not look. God forbid cpt_teemo comes along and finds the chest afterwards. he might be upset. Yeh, that wont happen, and none of you could truthfully say you would not loot it either.
I dont have to justify myself to you rude, arrogant people, but FYI, i cant even recall the last time i left something in a chest. But i will not put up with all this *** from you haters telling me im inconsiderate and scum and all the other insults you throw out there. I seriously doubt anyone does this thinking oh next person to come along will get a surprise. It happens. You can deal with it, or find a new game. Because this trash talk from you people will not stop it, nor deter people. All it does is incite hatred. And that you are doing deliberately. This is why these threads need to stop and ZOS should end you from creating them.
That’s where you’re wrong. There’s no hatred for your actions.
Just don’t be surprised when you get called out on it.
Do you push over old ladies because your waiting at the checkout line? After all, your time is more valuable than hers.
I guess I will stop. You have no perception of others, and if you haven’t learned it by now it will never happen.
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✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
edited out. you cant even reason with people like you.Edited by Slick_007 on 11 March 2018 11:141 -
Artanisul✭✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »People need to get over it. I'm not wasting my personal time on ungrateful -people- who expect the game handed to them on a silver platter, and especially not those who expect me to do it.
My time is more valuable to me than your time is, and that's exactly how it is for those of you arguing against partially looted chests too. You all feel your time is more important than others', and thats the nature of the world. Games are inherently PVP, any way you look at it, and I will look out for myself and my circle first.
I expect each and every one of you to do the same.
The person who got to the chest first can do whatever they'd like with it, and if you don't like that, tough. You should have gotten to it first.
Serious first world problems that arent really problems, self entitlement is running rampant.
And for the people arguing this is analogous to littering or leaving your trash at the table, etc etc, I want you to take a long, hard look at yourselves and really pick apart exactly why you indulge in courtesies. You do it because it benefits you, whether socially so you stay in the staff's good graces (same for treating them with respect, and them to you), or because you haven't realized there's more to being a good, considerate person than just that.
Animals are self serving by nature, and our social structure is directly derived, influenced, and facilitated bt that very instinct.
This "me first" attitude is how we get humans killing humans. There is a limit to how long we will take being disrespected or treated rudely. Once that line is crossed we act. It doesn't have to be one person doing it to the same person over and over. A person constantly encountering crappy behavior in an environment will either leave that environment...again....or "act." There are only so many times we will "leave" though.
Treat others with the same respect you want in return.
Or continue to act with only you in mind, but don't act surprised when actions are taken....4 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
edited out. you cant even reason with people like you.
Nice edit. Smart move.
Yes, it must be quite draining for you to deal with perceptive and compassionate “bullies”.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I agree, this is very annoying.
I dont understand why couldnt they just make them instanced like crafting surveys or quest items. Of course, they would need to adjust spawn rates, but it would be more fair for everyone.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Or are you going to say that you have no problem vendoring all the base game junk gear since you can use your merchant? Oh, and inventory management hint here, you can always mail items you want to keep to a trusted friend to bounce back to you (unless you have no trusted friends, in which case I'm sorry).
i rarely leave anything in chests. id much rather i got money for it than someone else. and pretty much everything can be sold. But sometimes (usually cyrodiil) its so far to go to sell stuff that its not worth my time. And it gets left. On the way back to a vendor, there more chests. I will not pass them by just because my bags are full. Hey, i wonder if that chest has the motif im after? oh, bags are full. i better not look. God forbid cpt_teemo comes along and finds the chest afterwards. he might be upset. Yeh, that wont happen, and none of you could truthfully say you would not loot it either.
I dont have to justify myself to you rude, arrogant people, but FYI, i cant even recall the last time i left something in a chest. But i will not put up with all this *** from you haters telling me im inconsiderate and scum and all the other insults you throw out there. I seriously doubt anyone does this thinking oh next person to come along will get a surprise. It happens. You can deal with it, or find a new game. Because this trash talk from you people will not stop it, nor deter people. All it does is incite hatred. And that you are doing deliberately. This is why these threads need to stop and ZOS should end you from creating them.
I'm glad to hear that you rarely leave things in chests. And while I'm sympathetic to your hypothetical situation in Cyrodiil where you really want that chest, can't possibly remove or bounce-mail anything in your inventory, and absolutely have to leave junk sitting in the chest... yeah, I do still think you are being inconsiderate of others. Or, if I were the person coming behind you and spotting that chest before it had respawned, yes, I would think you were inconsiderate. After all, I saw that chest too and had to check it out too, but unlike you, I got no xp, no gold, and only the junk items you left behind.
If you (and others) don't want to be called inconsiderate for leaving your trash behind, maybe don't leave your trash behind? Everything else is just justifications of "I was inconsiderate because REASONS!" and that might make you feel better but doesn't actually do anything for the person you were inconsiderate to.
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✭✭✭✭✭hi...multiple players told me when i complained about the use chests in zone that it does not matter the chest will disappear after a timer and it will appear full and locked and told me to try and wait near a chest(and hope its one of those with short timer) and check the story for myself. But considering i have autoloot on and i was on a chest run i did not stop to verify that. But it might be true.
It does time out but takes less than 5 minutes for it to do so. I've tested it myself.
I do however think they should reduce the timer to 60 seconds from opening it. If you are wondering chests are under the same time down as group dungeon chests as well. For those wondering yes I do not have auto loot on and yes I do take everything from chests. If it is nodes I generally take everything, well except for clockwork city for those crafting dailies... take everything except quest item. You would be surprised at how quick the refresh for those things are.
That may be true for treasure chests you find in dungeons, delves, trials, as well as treasure-map chests, but I don't believe it works that way for treasure chests that spawn topside.
They do, I've checked that as well. Wasn't easy but I did test it. Works the same way.
That is really strange, because when I farm (been farming in Hews Bane since it went live), treasure chests with junk items left in them sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there. Maybe ZOS did recode topside chests. I'll check it out.
I've tested it with the chests that spawn right outside of exorcised coven cottage. Picked one item out of it and literally waited by it. Good ol' trusty clock right next to me as well. I even checked when I saw this thing to make sure if I was remembering how long it took to reset. But as for the no excuse thing that does seem to be a bit extreme... you can't possibly know their inventory or what they have but I feel like majority are people that don't have the merchant. Talked to some that do it and that is a common response from them. I tend to not care too much and take stuff and rather prefer they take everything if they can and destroy what they don't want.
Sorry it took so long to get back on this. So there I was in Hew's Bane, standing guard over a chest with the junk I had left in it. I spammed in in chat what I was doing, thinking others would leave it alone .... but did they? Hahahahaha ... no (I totally forgot about the anniversary event going on there). Yea, so it took a while, but I finally got a lucky break when others in the area were nice enough to leave the chest alone during the 'test.' (Note: testing to see if topside chests with junk left inside de-spawned on their own, and if so, how long it takes.)
Well, you will be pleased to know that not only did I eat a slice of humble pie, but I at the whole thing! LOL! You were right ... they do de-spawn. It took 10 minutes for the chest with junk left in it (Hew's Bane) to de-spawn. Although, in my defense, 10 minutes feels like an incredibly long time when on your 'farming route' going as fast as you can to get from one node or spawn point to the next (it's an efficiency thing to get the maximum amount in the least amount of time possible).
Anyway, thank you for your insistence and politeness regarding the issue.
Hey, its awesome that you checked the respawn timer on chests! I agree that 10 minutes feels like forever on a farming run. My chest run in Wrothgar only takes me between 10-15 minutes.0 -
Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭Cave_Canem wrote: »OK these are my solutions:
1. If you don't empty a chest it doesn't count towards the Treasure Hunter achievement
2. Whatever loot is left behind, have it and only it appear in the next chest until it is looted.
3. If you walk away and don't fully loot, have local thugs/bandits/pirates appear to claim the remainder, they are weak, give no XP, but do delay you enough so that its faster just to empty the chest.
4. After leaving loot, next time you port into town a NPC calls out and chases you down, he follows you around repeating that he has something for you with a quest icon over his head, when you accept the quest he gives you a lockpick that he saw you leave behind in the chest.
5. The chest animates and follows the character for a while proclaiming such things as "If you loved me you'd take it out", "Don't leave me like this!", "Sir/Maam, if you don't take the lockpicks, how will you open the next one of us?", "I guess neither of us have a heart in our chest", "<sobbing> nobody ever takes the copper pieces"...chests are needy. Also has the obvious effect for a short while of letting people who see this know that you left something in the chest!
#5 is hilarious. I want it to be implemented, right now
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✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »hi...multiple players told me when i complained about the use chests in zone that it does not matter the chest will disappear after a timer and it will appear full and locked and told me to try and wait near a chest(and hope its one of those with short timer) and check the story for myself. But considering i have autoloot on and i was on a chest run i did not stop to verify that. But it might be true.
It does time out but takes less than 5 minutes for it to do so. I've tested it myself.
I do however think they should reduce the timer to 60 seconds from opening it. If you are wondering chests are under the same time down as group dungeon chests as well. For those wondering yes I do not have auto loot on and yes I do take everything from chests. If it is nodes I generally take everything, well except for clockwork city for those crafting dailies... take everything except quest item. You would be surprised at how quick the refresh for those things are.
That may be true for treasure chests you find in dungeons, delves, trials, as well as treasure-map chests, but I don't believe it works that way for treasure chests that spawn topside.
They do, I've checked that as well. Wasn't easy but I did test it. Works the same way.
That is really strange, because when I farm (been farming in Hews Bane since it went live), treasure chests with junk items left in them sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there. Maybe ZOS did recode topside chests. I'll check it out.
I've tested it with the chests that spawn right outside of exorcised coven cottage. Picked one item out of it and literally waited by it. Good ol' trusty clock right next to me as well. I even checked when I saw this thing to make sure if I was remembering how long it took to reset. But as for the no excuse thing that does seem to be a bit extreme... you can't possibly know their inventory or what they have but I feel like majority are people that don't have the merchant. Talked to some that do it and that is a common response from them. I tend to not care too much and take stuff and rather prefer they take everything if they can and destroy what they don't want.
Sorry it took so long to get back on this. So there I was in Hew's Bane, standing guard over a chest with the junk I had left in it. I spammed in in chat what I was doing, thinking others would leave it alone .... but did they? Hahahahaha ... no (I totally forgot about the anniversary event going on there). Yea, so it took a while, but I finally got a lucky break when others in the area were nice enough to leave the chest alone during the 'test.' (Note: testing to see if topside chests with junk left inside de-spawned on their own, and if so, how long it takes.)
Well, you will be pleased to know that not only did I eat a slice of humble pie, but I at the whole thing! LOL! You were right ... they do de-spawn. It took 10 minutes for the chest with junk left in it (Hew's Bane) to de-spawn. Although, in my defense, 10 minutes feels like an incredibly long time when on your 'farming route' going as fast as you can to get from one node or spawn point to the next (it's an efficiency thing to get the maximum amount in the least amount of time possible).
Anyway, thank you for your insistence and politeness regarding the issue.
Hey, its awesome that you checked the respawn timer on chests! I agree that 10 minutes feels like forever on a farming run. My chest run in Wrothgar only takes me between 10-15 minutes.
I was always told it was 30 min respawn in VVarden0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Cave_Canem wrote: »OK these are my solutions:
1. If you don't empty a chest it doesn't count towards the Treasure Hunter achievement
2. Whatever loot is left behind, have it and only it appear in the next chest until it is looted.
3. If you walk away and don't fully loot, have local thugs/bandits/pirates appear to claim the remainder, they are weak, give no XP, but do delay you enough so that its faster just to empty the chest.
4. After leaving loot, next time you port into town a NPC calls out and chases you down, he follows you around repeating that he has something for you with a quest icon over his head, when you accept the quest he gives you a lockpick that he saw you leave behind in the chest.
5. The chest animates and follows the character for a while proclaiming such things as "If you loved me you'd take it out", "Don't leave me like this!", "Sir/Maam, if you don't take the lockpicks, how will you open the next one of us?", "I guess neither of us have a heart in our chest", "<sobbing> nobody ever takes the copper pieces"...chests are needy. Also has the obvious effect for a short while of letting people who see this know that you left something in the chest!
#5 is hilarious. I want it to be implemented, right now
Give the chest Stuga's voice. "Do you know how long I've been waiting for you to loot me?"1 -
Maryal✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cave_Canem wrote: »OK these are my solutions:
1. If you don't empty a chest it doesn't count towards the Treasure Hunter achievement
2. Whatever loot is left behind, have it and only it appear in the next chest until it is looted.
3. If you walk away and don't fully loot, have local thugs/bandits/pirates appear to claim the remainder, they are weak, give no XP, but do delay you enough so that its faster just to empty the chest.
4. After leaving loot, next time you port into town a NPC calls out and chases you down, he follows you around repeating that he has something for you with a quest icon over his head, when you accept the quest he gives you a lockpick that he saw you leave behind in the chest.
5. The chest animates and follows the character for a while proclaiming such things as "If you loved me you'd take it out", "Don't leave me like this!", "Sir/Maam, if you don't take the lockpicks, how will you open the next one of us?", "I guess neither of us have a heart in our chest", "<sobbing> nobody ever takes the copper pieces"...chests are needy. Also has the obvious effect for a short while of letting people who see this know that you left something in the chest!
All the options are good
BUT ... Option #5: ---> WINNER OF 10 GOLD STARS
Love it!Edited by Maryal on 11 March 2018 15:241 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Nope. You must not have been raised right to think this behavior is alright.
No. This is being blown so out of proportion that people are blinded.
To read the forum, one would assume that Tamriel is filled with nothing but picked over chests and resource nodes. An army of people must be creating these. As as matter of fact, very few people do. I might run across a dozen of them per week. It is not the end of the world, when I do.
It is not rude, nor toxic, nor against the ToS, to leave stuff behind in chests, resource nodes, or anything. The game handles this quite nicely by despawning these after a bit, while still allowing time for someone else to come along and harvest it.
I farm quite a bit to fund my various activities in the game. As a farmer, I would prefer it if people didn't just take everything and destroy what they don't want. I take everything. I want those worms, crawlers, lockpicks, or whatever trash people are destroying instead of leaving behind. A half full chest has more in it than an empty place where a chest would have been.
Already opened chests not only have loot, but they don't take up as much of my time. Chest that are already opened take a fraction of the time to loot, when compared to having to pick the lock. I can grab your unwanted loot and be on my way before you can pick your next chest. Yes, I miss out on the skill point, and the high end loot, but I miss out on it if the chest isn't there, too.
That is really the thing, by the way. If there is someone else out there farming, and they are taking everything, there is nothing left for me when I come along. I would much prefer to find something, than nothing at all. The overwhelming majority of the time, it is nothing.
I won't stick around when there are a lot of other farmers around. This isn't because of chests and nodes with someone's trash in them. Quite the opposite. Most people take it all and there is simply nothing there. I move to somewhere that doesn't have other farmers. Somewhere that is also away from the farming bots, so I stay away from Bal Foyen unless I am looking to report some bots.
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Maryal✭✭✭✭✭
✭@ZOS_GinaBruno Please pass on to the devs a request for a quality of life improvement with the next DLC regarding the issue of unwanted items left in treasure chests. This issue is such a sore spot for so many people (sigh).
Realistically, two very reasonable options to consider are:
1. Shorten the de-spawn time (for chests unlocked but not completely emptied) to 2-3 minutes ... that should be plenty of time for someone who needs to adjust their inventory in order to make room for whatever they want from the chest; or
2. Let us right-click on individual items while they are still in the chest in order to select 'delete' (avoids having to put unwanted items in our inventory just to delete them) (also avoids having to make room in our inventory just to put the unwanted items in there to delete them)
Much thanks!Edited by Maryal on 11 March 2018 16:013
