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We need poisons that block people to dodge roll for the duration of that poison
Knootewoot
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As a melee magblade cloak is my magical "dodge roll" as i don't have the stamina to do it or run away. And it's almost every-time nullified by a simple potion.
Can we even it out? But that instead of a potion (easy mode) at least let us apply a potion or something?
Edit: Ok, ok dumb idea. I just dislike it people hate cloak so much while it is so easy countered all the time while those people dodge roll 24/7
Edited by Knootewoot on 11 January 2018 18:35 Can we even it out? But that instead of a potion (easy mode) at least let us apply a potion or something?
Edit: Ok, ok dumb idea. I just dislike it people hate cloak so much while it is so easy countered all the time while those people dodge roll 24/7
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"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
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CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sure thing fam, lemme just get that potion that allows all attacks to go thru damage shields completely for the duration. Cus that’s the parallel to dodge, not cloak. And healing ward is a dodge roll and rally burst heal in one skill.
Also, what patch are you in that people are rolling 24/7 and it’s effective in mitigating all of the damage?Edited by CyrusArya on 11 January 2018 19:0510 -
You can counter doderolling very easy. Use the force.
Really though just time the dodgeroll guy.Smiff0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If it's dodge roll messing with you, the easiest solution is to slot Soul Assault2 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You mean immobilze poisons that also increase the stamina cost of your targets abilities?
Already got those
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I created those accidently, and when they proc the player was forced to dodgeroll again or break free forcing a window of burst.
Only downside is that players can still dodge the light attacks that proc it.
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CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭Man quite often dodge roll does more harm than good like dodge rolling and getting cced mid dodge or you get rooted mid dodge.1 -
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✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »Man quite often dodge roll does more harm than good like dodge rolling and getting cced mid dodge or you get rooted mid dodge.
Yup, just giving stam away for free everywhere.Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..0 -
GaunterODim✭✭✭✭*poison procs*
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Edit - its pts time so all people come out with their own weird ideasEdited by GaunterODim on 13 January 2018 19:580 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What we need is separating the relationship that dodge and cloak have. Cloak should stop countdown or even add additional seconds to dodge cost debuff duration. The main issue with "perma dodging" nb's is that they can get rid of dodge cost debuff while they're in cloak and regenerate stamina in the meantime while no getting any dmg when other builds need to replace dodge when it's too expensive with some other ways of defense while still getting dmg and need to spend main resource in order to survive.Edited by Juhasow on 17 January 2018 13:340 -
DTStormfox✭✭✭✭✭A potion or poison that prevents dodge rolling, no, not a good idea.
Maybe (but that's just my brain going on a journey) if you could be able to interrupt dodge rolling by bashing somebody who is dodge rolling, resulting them to get either stunned, give off-balance or apply minor vulnerability. Although you need to have a very good reaction time to pull it of.0 -
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✭✭✭I want a skill for nightblades called "finger of death". I do /point at a player and he dies when dodge rolling.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."1 -
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✭✭✭What we need is separating the relationship that dodge and cloak have. Cloak should stop countdown or even add additional seconds to dodge cost debuff duration. The main issue with "perma dodging" nb's is that they can get rid of dodge cost debuff while they're in cloak and regenerate stamina in the meantime while no getting any dmg when other builds need to replace dodge when it's too expensive with some other ways of defense while still getting dmg and need to spend main resource in order to survive.
Can we give shielding, healing and blocking a cost increase as well then?I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
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✭✭✭Actions like block/dodge/sprint should use a 3rd bar "Fatique" with a pool only upgradable by CP's.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭✭✭THere is a lot of undodgeble attks, u know?
Not on my skillbar exept soul assault (which I only use because my sou harvest was dodged all the time)
But hopefully there won't be a huge message DODGE NOW now that they fixed some addons. This game was supposed to be reactive combat and not read combat.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »
Then why complain about people reacting (via dodge)?Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on 18 January 2018 12:120 -
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✭✭✭✭✭With the amount of skills that ignore dodgeroll, if we nerf dodgeroll further by this point we might aswell delete medium armor from the game.
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✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »
Then why complain about people reacting (via dodge)?
Because they don't react but use the addons to know when to dodge.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »THere is a lot of undodgeble attks, u know?
Not on my skillbar exept soul assault (which I only use because my sou harvest was dodged all the time)
But hopefully there won't be a huge message DODGE NOW now that they fixed some addons. This game was supposed to be reactive combat and not read combat.
You can't dodge soul harvest atm. Read the patch notes.
Yeah you know what reactive means? being able to actually react to the attacks of your opponent and not being killed because he can negate your defence by slotting poisons0 -
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✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »
Then why complain about people reacting (via dodge)?
Because they don't react but use the addons to know when to dodge.
How could you know that every single one of them uses Miat's and other hint-giving add ons? Many people on PC and everyone on Console doesn't use addons. Maybe, just maybe, it's because they know when to dodge?
Not everyone that is better than you is a cheater.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »As a melee magblade cloak is my magical "dodge roll" as i don't have the stamina to do it or run away. And it's almost every-time nullified by a simple potion.
Can we even it out? But that instead of a potion (easy mode) at least let us apply a potion or something?
Edit: Ok, ok dumb idea. I just dislike it people hate cloak so much while it is so easy countered all the time while those people dodge roll 24/7
Cloak is only easily countered in the minds of Nightblades. The potions don't do squat to keep NBs from cloaking, and neither do Radiant Magelight or Lingering Flare. You can bring an NB out of cloak for a split second, but then he just goes right back into cloak again!#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
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✭I must say, this is the worst nerf request I’ve ever heard.
While we are at it we should just get rid of dodge, shields, AND block, and have turn based fighting!
In all seriousness just practice a bit more. A magicka NB can be ultra powerful. I saw some people fighting one the other day and they could NOT kill him. He rarely cloaked and constantly had healing ward. The players were obviously not all that clever because they would never time their burst when shields were down, but it was funny to watch. As far as dodge rollers, use an AoE ult, fear, that kind of stuff. It helps.Hey everyone! Look! It's a signature!0 -
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✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »
Then why complain about people reacting (via dodge)?
Because they don't react but use the addons to know when to dodge.
How could you know that every single one of them uses Miat's and other hint-giving add ons? Many people on PC and everyone on Console doesn't use addons. Maybe, just maybe, it's because they know when to dodge?
Not everyone that is better than you is a cheater.
Yeah they know when to dodge even before i release my heavy attack from stealth.
They know when to jump of mount and flap wings when i press snipe (and cancel it so it doesnt even release or make sound).
They know when reading a map when to dodge roll away from my cripple
I never stated everyone uses it. I just stated there is to many dodge rolling while cloak is easily countered with potions.
And not for a split second because that potion lasts 15.7 seconds.
Yes ranged magNB's can be powerfull. But many LA melee magblades rely on cloak more then their ranged counterparts.
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"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »As a melee magblade cloak is my magical "dodge roll" as i don't have the stamina to do it or run away. And it's almost every-time nullified by a simple potion.
Can we even it out? But that instead of a potion (easy mode) at least let us apply a potion or something?
Edit: Ok, ok dumb idea. I just dislike it people hate cloak so much while it is so easy countered all the time while those people dodge roll 24/7
Cloak is only easily countered in the minds of Nightblades. The potions don't do squat to keep NBs from cloaking, and neither do Radiant Magelight or Lingering Flare. You can bring an NB out of cloak for a split second, but then he just goes right back into cloak again!
If you get on your nightblade I'll show you how easy it is to keep you out of cloak.The Age of Wrobel.1
