Spell Power Cure needs a nerf

Kammakazi · August 2017

This set has been base for healers since 2015. It's time for a change nerf ( ಠ ͜ ʖ ಠ).

Right now healers are stuck with:

5x SPC + 5x Mending + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning
5x SPC + 5x Worm + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning
5x SPC + 5x Infallible Aether (For bosses that can't be off-balanced) + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning
5x SPC + 5x Twilight Remedy + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning

All these sets for damage and tanking have been nerfed but healers sets haven't been touched? LOL

starkerealm · August 2017

I can only assume it's because telling when a healer is over-performing is much harder than when a DPS is melting the world.

bebynnag · August 2017

we can also run vMA lightning staves

Olupajmibanan · August 2017

puffytheslayer wrote: »

we can also run vMA lightning staves

We usually run Maelstrom Lightning staves instead of Master Lightning Staves. MSA provides more increase than Master.

gepe87 · August 2017

These nerf topics are getting insane.

Waseem · August 2017

a naked healer is a healer wearing 5/5 SPC

Morgul667 · August 2017

Please stop the nerfs

Rohamad_Ali · August 2017

Just stop .

Qbiken · August 2017

gepe87 wrote: »

These nerf topics are getting insane.

Agreed.

Something is BiS.......let´s nerf it......Not because it´s overpowered, but because a lot of players use it.....

BiS is not equal overpowerd/broken.

DocFrost72 · August 2017

Are you proposing diversity? Add another set that gives you something for over healing. The reason SPC is so coveted is because without it or the mending set, overhealing is wasted time, effort, and magicka. There's *zero* point to overhealing. This set changes that.

If you want people to consider running other stuff, maybe have a set that increases allied health with minor toughness when they are over healed (like the opposite of warden passive), or restore resources only when overhealing based on the healing done. Just those two random spit balls alone may be worth taking over SPC. Maybe not, but people would consider it which is way more than they're doing now.

AlMcFly · August 2017

OP you're not funny.

starkerealm · August 2017

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Are you proposing diversity? Add another set that gives you something for over healing. The reason SPC is so coveted is because without it or the mending set, overhealing is wasted time, effort, and magicka. There's *zero* point to overhealing. This set changes that.

If you want people to consider running other stuff, maybe have a set that increases allied health with minor toughness when they are over healed (like the opposite of warden passive), or restore resources only when overhealing based on the healing done. Just those two random spit balls alone may be worth taking over SPC. Maybe not, but people would consider it which is way more than they're doing now.

Yeah, more ways to deal with overhealing probably would do a lot for the game.

FakeFox · August 2017

The problem isn't that SPC is too strong, but that there is no alternative. No other set in the game fits into that role, so even if you would nerf SPC to 1/3 of it's strength it would still be BIS. ZOS should stop bringing out sets that do healing and bring out more damage support sets instead for healers, then we could have alternatives.

getemshauna · August 2017

Can't believe...

Wolfchild07 · August 2017

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Are you proposing diversity? Add another set that gives you something for over healing. The reason SPC is so coveted is because without it or the mending set, overhealing is wasted time, effort, and magicka. There's *zero* point to overhealing. This set changes that.

If you want people to consider running other stuff, maybe have a set that increases allied health with minor toughness when they are over healed (like the opposite of warden passive), or restore resources only when overhealing based on the healing done. Just those two random spit balls alone may be worth taking over SPC. Maybe not, but people would consider it which is way more than they're doing now.

I like this way of thinking. It could also increase resistances. When BiS sets are expected to be used it kills diversity. Personally I very rarely heal, but I do see SPC alot. More similar sets would increase the diversity rather than nerfing it.

VampiricByNature · August 2017

I'm game for diversity but be careful what you wish for. In a game where VERY few healers know how to buff a group, you're taking away a lot of free dps.

Not to mention how unenjoyable it is to be a healer trying to farm gear. Literally, I obtained most of my Spc 2 manning WGT on repeat with a friend. Or 1 manning it on my dps. Not everyone has that luxury- some people just have 1 toon. It's why you run into so many healers who do not run Spc. At least the hoards of dps can go together to quickly get BSW etcetc.. It's not like RNGesus is kind.....

Coilbox · August 2017

Kammakazi wrote: »

This set has been base for healers since 2015. It's time for a change nerf ( ಠ ͜ ʖ ಠ).

Right now healers are stuck with:
5x SPC + 5x Mending + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning

5x SPC + 5x Worm + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning

5x SPC + 5x Infallible Aether (For bosses that can't be off-balanced) + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning

5x SPC + 5x Twilight Remedy + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning

All these sets for damage and tanking have been nerfed but healers sets haven't been touched? LOL

You need a nerf.

On your face.

With the open hand.

A big big nerf.

Kammakazi · August 2017

Everybody's so triggered

Kammakazi · August 2017

Healers need to experience the feeling of being nerfed on their role, just like us tanks and damage

XDragonDoomX · August 2017

A big big nerf.

'Bigly' ??

Taleof2Cities · August 2017

Healers did take a nerf, @Kammakazi, when the resource-intensive Morrowind patch dropped.

Gear didn't change, yes ... but CP, skills, and enchantments had to be re-thought to better manage lost healing power pre-Morrowind.

So, saying us healers haven't had the experience of being nerfed isn't quite accurate.

Marabornwingrion · August 2017

Topics like this need a nerf.

wolfxspice · August 2017

they could just make healing sets that offer comparable group wide buffs, like increased pen, or max resources, or increased light/heavy attack damage.

Drazkyth · August 2017

Astrid_V wrote: »

Topics like this need a nerf.

This.

Lord_Eomer · August 2017

Kammakazi wrote: »

This set has been base for healers since 2015. It's time for a change nerf ( ಠ ͜ ʖ ಠ).

Right now healers are stuck with:
5x SPC + 5x Mending + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning

5x SPC + 5x Worm + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning

5x SPC + 5x Infallible Aether (For bosses that can't be off-balanced) + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning

5x SPC + 5x Twilight Remedy + Master's Restoration / Master's Lightning or Crafted Lightning

All these sets for damage and tanking have been nerfed but healers sets haven't been touched? LOL

Nerf OP, Nerf and Nerf!

Coilbox · August 2017

Kammakazi wrote: »

Healers need to experience the feeling of being nerfed on their role, just like us tanks and damage

Asking for a nerf just for the sake of a nerf, so other roles can feel it... and not for any reasonable reasons... Clever boy.

I wonder why this thread is not just closed for bashing, trolling and flaming everyone... as the OP just stated there is not a good reason for asking, but just for triggering everyone.

ifDoubtNerfIt · August 2017

Tbh OP is not wrong. The meta for DPS and Tanks is changing basicaly every patch, but healers meta is staying, that's not acceptable for leaderboard chasing. But no, TR is useless as in most cases the tank is getting the synergy so Minor Force is useless, Mending is somewhat good, but as the new "meta" for tanks is Weakening enchant on backbar (finally) it's not THAT great, and IA is again not THAT great because you already have 90%+ off-balance on every bossfight in leaderboard chasing raids.
Anyways I'm on the same side as OP as IMO there should be at least a bit of diversitiy, at least one more set to choose.

EDIT: To be clear, I'm not saying OP is right, I'm just saying he's not wrong.

FeaR Turbo · August 2017

Yes! Rejoice! Nerf what is good! Ask not for something better! Something creative !

Nerf !!!!

Meanwhile there was a massive change in sustain meta but no gear sets that a healer could run in terms of supporting in that regard??

Interesting!

Nerf SPC!!

Runschei · August 2017

BUFF THE OTHERS FFS

Drazkyth · August 2017

Let's just nerf everything to the point we do zero damage on mobs and players.

abigfishy · August 2017

I have made maybe 20 runs and RNGesus hates me I haven't been able to get a set of BiS trait gear yet. Please don't nerf it and make me run another super hard dungeon tens of times to farm gear, it just isn't fun running the same one again and again.