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Necht´s touch + Elegant
bsupino
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Does Necht also increases damage done by overload ?
If so, how good would it be a magSorc running both sets, with 2elegant swords on Overload bar ?
Still Farming a few missing pieces but wanna know if worth the grind.
If so, how good would it be a magSorc running both sets, with 2elegant swords on Overload bar ?
Still Farming a few missing pieces but wanna know if worth the grind.
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Swords make no difference to overload, for a long while now.
But yes Netch works with Overload.PC Master Race
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seedubsrun✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »Swords make no difference to overload, for a long while now.
But yes Netch works with Overload.
I haven't bothered trying a dual wield sorc bar in a long time. So you're saying the extra 5% damage from 2 swords no longer carries over to Overload bar? Does the traits from the weapons still apply?0 -
dpencil1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Swords are helpful for the extra set piece bonus, so you can run 5 Elegant, with 2 swords on your back bar. The set bonus will apply when you go into Overload on that bar. If you're going the Overload route, might as well throw on the Molag Kena monster set too. All 3 sets would be buffing Overload at that point.
Remember though, the Ulti pool is half as big as it used to be. Only 500. So OL builds do not get the kind of mileage they once did.Edited by dpencil1 on 18 July 2017 13:432 -
DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭seedubsrun wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »Swords make no difference to overload, for a long while now.
But yes Netch works with Overload.
I haven't bothered trying a dual wield sorc bar in a long time. So you're saying the extra 5% damage from 2 swords no longer carries over to Overload bar? Does the traits from the weapons still apply?
Trait carries yes. Weapon type does not. Do not buy the op swords. Get daggers or whatever is going cheap.PC Master Race
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Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭seedubsrun wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »Swords make no difference to overload, for a long while now.
But yes Netch works with Overload.
I haven't bothered trying a dual wield sorc bar in a long time. So you're saying the extra 5% damage from 2 swords no longer carries over to Overload bar? Does the traits from the weapons still apply?
It never carried over.@ Izaki #PCEU
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seedubsrun✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »seedubsrun wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »Swords make no difference to overload, for a long while now.
But yes Netch works with Overload.
I haven't bothered trying a dual wield sorc bar in a long time. So you're saying the extra 5% damage from 2 swords no longer carries over to Overload bar? Does the traits from the weapons still apply?
It never carried over.
Good to know. I must've just heard the urban legends about it. After looking in my inventory though It seems my old elegant dual wield weapons were a sharpened axe and dagger so maybe I did figure it out at some point. Either way thanks.0 -
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✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »seedubsrun wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »Swords make no difference to overload, for a long while now.
But yes Netch works with Overload.
I haven't bothered trying a dual wield sorc bar in a long time. So you're saying the extra 5% damage from 2 swords no longer carries over to Overload bar? Does the traits from the weapons still apply?
It never carried over.
It sure did when vMA came out, before that you could even get spell pen from DW maces which was really good in pvp. Every sorc and his mother was running DW sharpened swords in pve to get 5% bonus dmg, safe up 1000 ulti before the boss and overload him into oblivion.PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »seedubsrun wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »Swords make no difference to overload, for a long while now.
But yes Netch works with Overload.
I haven't bothered trying a dual wield sorc bar in a long time. So you're saying the extra 5% damage from 2 swords no longer carries over to Overload bar? Does the traits from the weapons still apply?
It never carried over.
It sure did when vMA came out, before that you could even get spell pen from DW maces which was really good in pvp. Every sorc and his mother was running DW sharpened swords in pve to get 5% bonus dmg, safe up 1000 ulti before the boss and overload him into oblivion.
I don't know if it actually did or not, no one really had all the elegant set weapons or the materials to make several sets of them at the same level to actually test it properly, I think it was just an assumption, much like the dual Torugs swords we all used before elegant existed. Actually never made a difference to OL itself but it did on the LL backbar etcPC Master Race
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The real downside of DW builds that didn't use DW purely for overload also was that you didn't have a DPS spammable to proc CF any longer. With the reduction of overload to 500 ultimate points this is an issue that's hard to navigate around.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The real downside of DW builds that didn't use DW purely for overload also was that you didn't have a DPS spammable to proc CF any longer. With the reduction of overload to 500 ultimate points this is an issue that's hard to navigate around.
With a build like this it's good for around 800k damage with LL and curse on the same bar, it's still good for burning anything in VMA, Argonian after 1st Enrage and spider after popping the pillar, rest will die easily.
Although unsure if DW altogether is worth it, I'd of thought the 8% single target from an Inferno was worth more outright than a touch more spell damage.PC Master Race
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
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Yes, also I wouldn't want to go without Elemental Rage. The ult is just really strong in AoE situations.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
Malacthulhu✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »seedubsrun wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »Swords make no difference to overload, for a long while now.
But yes Netch works with Overload.
I haven't bothered trying a dual wield sorc bar in a long time. So you're saying the extra 5% damage from 2 swords no longer carries over to Overload bar? Does the traits from the weapons still apply?
It never carried over.
Same with werewolf formXbox One Na0 -
DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
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Yes, also I wouldn't want to go without Elemental Rage. The ult is just really strong in AoE situations.
personally yes me too, I haven't used Overload outside of PVP in ages (because it is infact OP in PVP 500 ult and chase people down, Stamina doesn't last as long as my ult)
For for PVE fights, you'll always do much much much more damage just dumping rage and then dropping LL, Curse, scamp and holding trigger. For sorcs I use the current Alcast pet build, doesn't even have a VMA Staff, Master Staff FTW!PC Master Race
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bsupino✭I was thinking of something like:
Ligthning staf bar
force pulse-blockade-crystal frags-inner light-bound aegis / destro ultimate
DW
LL - mage's wrath - hardened armour - boud aegis - Curse(flex) / meteor
That way I dont loose 8%staff damage on spammable bar
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seedubsrun✭✭✭✭I was thinking of something like:
Ligthning staf bar
force pulse-blockade-crystal frags-inner light-bound aegis / destro ultimate
DW
LL - mage's wrath - hardened armour - boud aegis - Curse(flex) / meteor
That way I dont loose 8%staff damage on spammable bar
How would you set up your armor with this setup though? If you use dual wield on back bar for the elegant 5 piece then you wouldn't have that bonus on your front bar and if you run meteor as your DW bar ultimate and not overload then the set seems wasted.0 -
bsupino✭seedubsrun wrote: »I was thinking of something like:
Ligthning staf bar
force pulse-blockade-crystal frags-inner light-bound aegis / destro ultimate
DW
LL - mage's wrath - hardened armour - boud aegis - Curse(flex) / meteor
That way I dont loose 8%staff damage on spammable bar
How would you set up your armor with this setup though? If you use dual wield on back bar for the elegant 5 piece then you wouldn't have that bonus on your front bar and if you run meteor as your DW bar ultimate and not overload then the set seems wasted.
sorry, messed up.
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seedubsrun✭✭✭✭seedubsrun wrote: »I was thinking of something like:
Ligthning staf bar
force pulse-blockade-crystal frags-inner light-bound aegis / destro ultimate
DW
LL - mage's wrath - hardened armour - boud aegis - Curse(flex) / meteor
That way I dont loose 8%staff damage on spammable bar
How would you set up your armor with this setup though? If you use dual wield on back bar for the elegant 5 piece then you wouldn't have that bonus on your front bar and if you run meteor as your DW bar ultimate and not overload then the set seems wasted.
sorry, messed up.
Overload instead on meteor on back bar
Ahh ok that makes sense. I've been considering trying an overload build again and came up with a setup for necro+elegant and netch+elegant. I'll have to give it a shot. For the netch one I was going to run:
Lightning bar:
Inner Light
Endless Fury
Bound Aegis
Destructive Clench
Blockade
Shooting Star
DW bar:
Power Surge
Boundless Storm
Bound Aegis
Liquid Lightning
Hardened Ward
Power Overload
Overload bar:
Inner Light
Endless Fury
Bound Aegis
Dark Conversion
Hardened Ward
I'd be curious to see how your setup performs. I haven't run force pulse+frags since Morrowind because it's harder to sustain. I always loved that type of build though0
