Wanted to add that I play mainly EP and have no problem with making it more difficult to dominate a campaign if EP had done so the last campaign. I do not feel ANY faction should have the ability to dominate the same campaign consistently.

I couldn't agree more that this is a VERY serious problem that needs to be addressed in some way. ZOS should have recognized that human nature being what it is, faction stacking and massive zerging were inevitable unless some built in controls were in place to limit it. Why should a campaigns outcome be determined by which faction is lucky enough to have Asian guilds populating it? Asia comprises 2/3rds of the worlds population, and if they faction stack there is little anyone can do to stop it. Perhaps adding some STRONG bonuses to low population factions could help? I'm talking mutantly tough guards at keeps, maybe player offense and defense bonuses, zerg penalties to skills, etc. Currently people just log into their Blue toons on TF when the Aseanics are running wild and just reap the AP. They crown Emp literally every day, and many times multiple times per day. It's not fun and it's killing PvP on TF. Faction locking accounts on a campaign by campaign basis would help some...but I think adding the suggestions I've listed could also be useful in mitigating this problem.

When the only thing you are fighting for is second place month after month after month you stop caring. Guilds leave or switch sides, player relegate themselves to only taking resources or bridge fights and the whole atmosphere degrades. I do bot have the answers but something needs to change.

I disagree with you.
DC is winning campaigns due to numbers and organization, having groups and guilds active during most of the time and going for objectives.
EP has a good presence too with pact running daily, sometimes i see invictus and haxus day in and day out.
Now AD guilds have been scarce, not running as much and not communicating with each other, also the corridor Alessia-Sej/ Sej-BRK is always busy with pugs going back and forth with no object in mind other than just fighting, its the faction with the biggest quantity of aimless pugs shooting bows in the air.
I see some groups (not saying all names here) forming and minutes later you just dont see any action other than the bridge and/or sej > brk / nikel > ash corridor instead of hitting inner keeps or diluting the numbers of other factions.

Why should AD win any campaign in this current state anyway?
We dont deserve to win unless the old united AD comes back and we have more leaders to lead.

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Tonight happened exactly like I said it would.

That was early on. How about 4-5 hours later when DC only had Warden, and Glade most of the time. DC kept flipping Rayles and Ash with AD and Ales with EP.

There were times this past week or so with AD owning all center keeps except Chalman, which EP defends tooth and nail.

DC has a strong daytime presence which helps them too.

It doesn't help when the entire faction all goes to the same one or two places while the enemy attacks your back keeps.

It also doesn't help when a faction logs off for the night every other night or for a couple of nights. Can't win if you arent there.

The scores are pretty close right now. AD led early on then fell when people logged out for a couple of days. EP came close to taking over once or twice.

I play Oceanic and I can set my watch by DC zerging down the entire map, always doing the same thing every night -- it's like AvA against a computer because it's so predictable. They take the map, and then any attempt to retake a single home resource by 2-3 AD is met with 10-15 blue "defenders". Sure, AD has a strong NA primetime presence, but 6-8 hours a day with 0-3 keeps, of course we're gonna keep losing the campaign.

I agree with @Turelus ... it is not for ZOS to fix by adding op stats to the loosing side.

The only thing I could see is to change the incentives on winning a campaign. Increase the incentive to win (better loot, etc.) and make it so that winning more campaign consecutively will reduce the benefits. This will 1) increase the incentive for the loosing side to fight better, 2) avoid players switching side to participate in the winner table

At the moment, there is not much incentives, a part role-playing, to win a campaign, the most important thing is the leaderboard and for that bridge fight against pugs is not that bad...

ps: am AD on TF/EU and we have been dominating for months, starting to be boring.

Seriously guys, I don't understand why anybody cares about campaign victories. As stated by the OP, the game is not balancing player numbers, player skills etc at all (and how should it?), and even if you're a hardcore PVPer you can't possibly play 24/7 on you campaign - especially not when a campaign lasts a full month. Just forget about those campaign points and enjoy you're own PVP-experience while you're online. The rest is out of your hands.

What is the point of winning a campaign if you already have all the yellow jewellery? When/If ZoS gives people a real reason to play the map then maybe people will care.

Lumsdenml wrote: »

Ok, just throwing this out there, but how about some sort of scaling cap on pop. Once one alliance exceeds another by 20% (or whatever) that alliance is pop locked.... Regardless if the actual numbers.

I would like to see the actual numbers instead of bars. I do not believe that the numbers are balanced at all. So ZOS show the actual numbers each faction has.

prootch wrote: »

Dominance implies AvA efficiency, defending AD spawn keeps in prime time one day out of two, is not dominance at all. Words have a meaning ... it's just dominance vs wooden door and empty keeps when the campaign is empty

Your meaning is not my meaning of Dominance. When a faction continuously holds first place by an overwhelming margin campaign after campaign, they are dominant.

The points should be calculated in relation to how many players are online from the other factions, so in TF EU when AD captures completely undefended keeps they would get very little reward and conversely during primetime the points could be a lot more for EP and DC winning them back.

That would change the dynamic.

prootch wrote: »

First with woodcap vs empty keep is essentially lame being proud of it is plain ridiculous.

Then settle for third. I think that is lame to the max.

And if first is so lame why does DC fight so hard to keep it in TF and EP in haderus on na/pc?