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Mag Sorc Wards
NotPhobia
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Ok so I'm sure a lot of you complain about wards but have never even played the class , so I've been thinking about a solution to "ward stackers"
What if wards were not able to be casted more than 1 time depending on your missing health. So say above 75% health you can active your ward 1 time then you would have to switch bars before activating it again. 50%-74% health range you can active wards 2x in a row and so on. So what I'm basically saying is that when you activate a ward you should be required to at least switch bars before activating them again.
Oh and nerf heavy armor!
What if wards were not able to be casted more than 1 time depending on your missing health. So say above 75% health you can active your ward 1 time then you would have to switch bars before activating it again. 50%-74% health range you can active wards 2x in a row and so on. So what I'm basically saying is that when you activate a ward you should be required to at least switch bars before activating them again.
Oh and nerf heavy armor!
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NotPhobia✭✭✭I also have maimed mag sorc since 1.6 and still do main sorc , WARD STACKERS must be stopped!0
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I also have maimed mag sorc since 1.6 and still do main sorc , WARD STACKERS must be stopped!
Wards were already nerfed from 18 (12) secs to 6 secs standard
Anyway a sorc casting hardened ward and dampen is doing little to no dmg.
For me, wards are OK. Put a dot and do enough busrt and sonner or later they are gonna get OOMSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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Stamicka✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shields are fine and balanced where they are. If the sorc runs out of Stam or you time your burst correctly shields won't be a big problem. It's a good defense mechanism with some counterplay against it so I'm not really sure what there is to complain about.JaeyL
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Shields are fine and balanced where they are. If the sorc runs out of Stam or you time your burst correctly shields won't be a big problem. It's a good defense mechanism with some counterplay against it so I'm not really sure what there is to complain about.
Good sorcs won't run out of stam vs 1 opponent.Edited by Master_Kas on 12 March 2017 23:49EU | PC1 -
ku5h✭✭✭✭✭
✭While perma blockers can facetank 5+ players with high burst, sorc shield stacker couldnt tank 2 of them. While shields are good 1v1, when more players are hitting you at the same time GCD wont allow you to reapply shields fast enough to counter incomming dmg. In those cases blocking and dodgerolling is far superior. But yea nerf shields while we have so many unkillable permablockers that requre entire raid to kill when they start their par-kour routine.7 -
Jawasa✭✭✭Did some duels on My magicka sorc for the first time yesterday. Atleast 1v1 against magica i cant oom or run out of stam the only way i would die is if i overextend and drop wards when going for a kill. But against more then one wards get weaker. That Said this was with no poisons.0
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While perma blockers can facetank 5+ players with high burst, sorc shield stacker couldnt tank 2 of them. While shields are good 1v1, when more players are hitting you at the same time GCD wont allow you to reapply shields fast enough to counter incomming dmg. In those cases blocking and dodgerolling is far superior. But yea nerf shields while we have so many unkillable permablockers that requre entire raid to kill when they start their par-kour routine.
The no CP week sure made those perm-blocking types scarce, but they were back in force after, there are two kinds of them, the ones that can stand in front of a keep front door and soak up the dmg of 20-30 people and the bridge types that as long as they are winning they are 1vXer's if you start to get up on them they become RunvXer's.
Without shields the Sorcs have no chance. If you want to eliminate an entire class from PvP then sure lets just do that.
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thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Harness magicka needs a legit nerf. It's so stupid fighting a magicka sorc as another magicka player because of the crazy sustain you give them just by attacking.0 -
Vanzeii✭✭thankyourat wrote: »Harness magicka needs a legit nerf. It's so stupid fighting a magicka sorc as another magicka player because of the crazy sustain you give them just by attacking.
Everyone has access to it not just the sorcXbox-NA [Il Halo lI]
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thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭thankyourat wrote: »Harness magicka needs a legit nerf. It's so stupid fighting a magicka sorc as another magicka player because of the crazy sustain you give them just by attacking.
Everyone has access to it not just the sorc
True but for the most part most other magicka builds use either dampen or wear heavy armor. So you really don't notice it unless you are fighting a sorc, but it can be a problem on any magicka build. Against a sorc though it basically let's them permanently shield stack if they are fighting another magicka build. It's way too strong. The resource return needs to be adjusted. I've used it on both magblade and magsorc and it is OP against other magicka players. It makes magsorc vs magsorc such a stupid fight lol1 -
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✭DeviousCat wrote: »While perma blockers can facetank 5+ players with high burst, sorc shield stacker couldnt tank 2 of them. While shields are good 1v1, when more players are hitting you at the same time GCD wont allow you to reapply shields fast enough to counter incomming dmg. In those cases blocking and dodgerolling is far superior. But yea nerf shields while we have so many unkillable permablockers that requre entire raid to kill when they start their par-kour routine.
The no CP week sure made those perm-blocking types scarce, but they were back in force after, there are two kinds of them, the ones that can stand in front of a keep front door and soak up the dmg of 20-30 people and the bridge types that as long as they are winning they are 1vXer's if you start to get up on them they become RunvXer's.
Without shields the Sorcs have no chance. If you want to eliminate an entire class from PvP then sure lets just do that.
I entirely agree 1 v 1 shields are a problem but so is this. This is all cyrodiil is right now. You don't see less than 29k Health on Stam characters or Magplars, with borderline capped resistances block casting to their hearts content. Resource sustain in heavy armor needs to be looked at severely.
I'm so tired of this Tank or gtfo meta plaguing cyrodiil right now.
Also Heavy Armor Magplars block casting BoL in groups are the bane of my existence right now.5 -
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trulyDeviousCat wrote: »While perma blockers can facetank 5+ players with high burst, sorc shield stacker couldnt tank 2 of them. While shields are good 1v1, when more players are hitting you at the same time GCD wont allow you to reapply shields fast enough to counter incomming dmg. In those cases blocking and dodgerolling is far superior. But yea nerf shields while we have so many unkillable permablockers that requre entire raid to kill when they start their par-kour routine.
Also Heavy Armor Magplars block casting BoL in groups are the bane of my existence right now.Edited by Stratforge on 14 March 2017 04:02PC NA
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hassubhai✭✭✭Shields are solid in 1v1 but suck hard in 1vx because its all they got and 2 decent damaging builds can easily burst you down1
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✭Sounds like players just once again want sorcs to be a easy kill in PvP. Good thing I just starting leveling a mDK. Since the PvP community is ok with perma block casting Zerg tanks, and Rollie Pollie stam based proc builds in Cyrodiil. All and all, all I hear is... "Please ZOS buff the Heavy Armor meta more and get rid of them light armor wearing sorcs from Cyrodiil. No ZOS how about you just delete MageSorc from the game altogether. K thanks ZOS bye!"
Sorcs are soo OP in Cyrodiil atm that getting the Kill all Sorcs missions, take longer then the kill all NB missions these days. Kill all DK and Templar mission, usually clears instantly. Hmmm I wonder why? It must be because Sorcs are just so OP and is all the rage in Cyrodiil these days.
So in yall campaign on taking away sorcs only survival mechanic(Shields). How are you going to compensate them? Or do yall just want to delete that class altogether?1 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭DeviousCat wrote: »the bridge types that as long as they are winning they are 1vXer's if you start to get up on them they become RunvXer's.
http://www.bartleby.com/360/7/158.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatius_CoclesAlone stood brave Horatius,
But constant still in mind,—
Thrice thirty thousand foes before,
And the broad flood behind.
Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stamford_BridgeThe English advance was then delayed by the need to pass through the choke-point presented by the bridge itself. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle has it that a giant Norse axeman (possibly armed with a Dane Axe) blocked the narrow crossing and single-handedly held up the entire English army. The story is that this axeman cut down up to 40 Englishmen and was defeated only when an English soldier floated under the bridge in a half-barrel and thrust his spear through the planks in the bridge, mortally wounding the axeman.
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KingKush✭✭✭✭No way you main a Mag Sorc. If you did, you wouldn't make such a ridiculous suggestion that would pretty much gimp the entire class in both PVE and PVP.
Good job trying to sound unbiased. It backfired.Xbox NA
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