Wayshuba wrote: »

CasNation wrote: »

And you know what? People are gonna buy it. And since people are gonna buy it, they will keep will making things like it. The only way for them to stop doing this kind if thing is for everyone to stop buying non-content oriented stuff from the crown store. But that won't happen unfortunately. Just look at crown crates. Everyone knows the odds suck, and yet you still see a bunch of people riding around on wild hunt mounts.

Here is where I wonder about price elasticity with the current pricing. Yes, someone may buy it but the question is how many?

Let's say for every one person that buys it at 13,000, thirty people would buy it at 3,000. Digital goods should always be priced to move the most crowns possible. Thirty people at 3,000 would be 90,000 crowns (or about $650 in revenue) versus the one who bought it at $90. As a company, which would you rather have when digital goods have no direct manufacturing cost?

This is one thing in general I think ZOS misses out on with their store. Their pricing is too high for the goods. Look at what GW2 has done with pricing, they keep it down to move as many as possible since it is a fixed cost for production.The idea is too move as many as possible, not price it so high that you move very little.

I keep watching and hoping that ZOS gets a bit better at understanding this pricing elasticity to make the most revenue they can on these items but currently, with all the prices on housing, it appears they have not yet figured that out yet. But, I do have faith in them to learn.

What you are ignoring in your bold is that there are already houses at the 3000 crowns level and available for in game gold.

if they offered earthsea at 3000c how many of the lowers would sell? They would be suppressing all the other housing costs way down and the net effect would be not as many crowns coming in - again remembering there are gold options for all the others except the crown exclusives.

Earthsea is not intended to be a main staple mass-market house purchase for the masses. They have plenty of options for those.

it is a specific and exclusive aimed at big fish and groups luxury item, and it is priced for that purpose, not mass sales which stifle all the lower end housing purchases.

I doubt i will buy more than one of these but i bought multiple smaller homes.

if they had priced the luxury homes at 3kc... man how cheap would the mediums be?

They have market number crunchers with a lot more data and experience than I to set the values. they said as much back when the assistants came thru.

they are maximizing crowns in for those who want to spend crowns.

SadieJoan wrote: »

Molydeus wrote: »

SadieJoan wrote: »

Origin, is that you....?

I feel really strongly about this, probably because I really loved Earthtear Cavern on the pts, and my decision not to buy it (which is difficult, because I really want it!) has nothing to do with not being able to afford it, but more so due to principle.

It kind of reminds me of the Elk mount. I have wanted a deer type mount in this game for a really long time, but that was overpriced, and this cavern (and actually even some of the bigger houses) are ridiculously priced in terms of crowns!

I honestly believe that if they lowered the prices of these, they would make more money, as more people would be inclined to purchase these items... A house in a game, which is purely decorative, should NOT cost more than an entire game, and I don't understand the mentality of anyone who believes that these prices are reasonable for zenimax to charge. They are getting very greedy and the majority of people are surprisingly accepting about that.

To afford the elk mount, a person only had to be subscribed for 3 months prior to its release, because the monthly crown allotment would have given you 4500 crowns. I think you are underestimating the amount of players who pay for these things with the crowns they get for subscribing.

I sub, and at times have allot of crowns saved up, but those crowns will not be spent on overpriced items out of principle. I won't be one of those people who make zenimax believe that it is OK to charge these prices. The money I pay to sub, and to get those crowns, is still money, and I prefer to spend them on items that I want which I feel are worth the price-tag, personally.

People are of course free to spend their money/crowns the way that they see fit, but on the flip side, those who do so encourage zenimax to keep raising the cost for such items, which effects everyone in the long run.

People tend to forget that they are paying for that subscription, so at the end of day, the subs crowns are also payed with real money.
I found this on youtube and it is very enlightening: "How free games are designed to make money"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKK9nVLvhGM

Vaoh wrote: »

People may bash you for making a comparison to a different game, but you are absolutely correct. The pricing is insane.

I mean..... it's not for me to say what ZOS should and shouldn't price their stuff at. They know how crazy it is. I simply won't buy it, and neither will like 99% of their playerbase.

Makes a cool "Preview" for about 10 minutes though, I'll give it that

Obviously that is not the case, or they wouldn't keep pricing things so high. I am not saying that even half of the playerbase are buying things like this. But more than 1% most likely are purchasing things like this.

Honestly I am glad they did not release the island as I would have bought it. But now the more I think on it I probably won't be paying anymore rl cash for anything cosmetic in eso.

Others have to be buying stuff or the prices would come down and not be rising.

I don't even buy brand new games. I wait until they drop to $20 and below. Not worth the money. $100+ for anything to do with a video game besides a console or pc is ****ing stupid.

A lot of FPS games(Looking at you Ubisoft) are going Pay-2-Win so they can nickel & dime their playerbase with microtransactions. The video game industry is turning into a joke with no punch line. All about that cash with minimal work and creativity, no wonder it's in shambles.

There will be fewer people to buy earthtear than Andromeda. So the price has to be higher. And this product is designed for people willing to spend a respectable amount of money in the game. That's not necessary, so it's expensive. "That's useless, and so expensive", I guess, it would be better to put core items that everyone needs to be efficient in game into the crown store, then they could make it expensive. Am i wrong?

No one can defend this, anyone defending this price is flat out blind. It did not cost them the equivalent in development to make the cavern that ME:Andromeda cost to make. The pricing for housing is so unbelievably inflated its laughable.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy housing and they've done a great job thus far, but I will never buy any of the houses for $100.

Maybe when they have a crown sale ill buy a few 5500 packs and get something like this, then again maybe not. But I certainly would never spend over $100 for a cavern or a Manor or w/e. Just ludicrous.

And don't even give me that, this is an mmo you get trillions of hours of play vs 4 hours ME:Andromeda non-sense, that's not an argument.

Paneross wrote: »

Thread Closed.

ha, ha.. right

Because greed, that's why.

TLDR Opportunity costs are subjective.

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

CasNation wrote: »

And you know what? People are gonna buy it. And since people are gonna buy it, they will keep will making things like it. The only way for them to stop doing this kind if thing is for everyone to stop buying non-content oriented stuff from the crown store. But that won't happen unfortunately. Just look at crown crates. Everyone knows the odds suck, and yet you still see a bunch of people riding around on wild hunt mounts.

And there ignorant fools who don't realize there hurting a game that they love the most.. theses prices keep getting higher and higher and ZOS keeps pissing more and more of its loyal customer base off with these disgusting money grabs pretty soon there revenue will dry up because no one will pay ( seriously $100+ for something you can do nothing with really) .
customers are all ready divided on the scam crates now they bring out housing that's pathetic in terms of functionality and use for a guild hall ( wow 24 ppl ) ..
Is it not just logic that the more customers you *** off the less content can be made slowly relying on the whales till they leave because there revenue alone is not enough to sustain quality long term content?

I have brought stuff from the crown store but direct purchase only I will not buy scam crates ( yes the stuff is cool in them ) but no it's bullsh.t to gamble on stuff ..
Yes i brought some crowns on sale for a medium / large house then looked at the functionality of it and spent 1500 on thieves guild dlc instead just need shadows on sale and then there's no need to really sub either which I currently do every 6-8 months for a month to fill craft bag..

MaxwellC wrote: »

This is how Housing should be in ESO (note this is a browser game)




^My character close up who's lava themed.

It's also restricted behind a monthly pay wall. If at anytime your subscription lapses you do not have access to your house. It's not really a good comparison.

postlarval wrote: »

Sounds about right since staring at the cavern scenery is more exciting than most Bioware games.

Ending aside, Mass Effect is one of the most critically acclaimed video game series of all time. You're in a very small minority if you thought it was boring.

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

MaxwellC wrote: »

This is how Housing should be in ESO (note this is a browser game)




^My character close up who's lava themed.

It's also restricted behind a monthly pay wall. If at anytime your subscription lapses you do not have access to your house. It's not really a good comparison.

$5 for new people and 1Cent for me if you played before for 4 years So yeh it still blows ESO out of the water.