Fun is objective, what you have fun with might be not what i have fun with might not be what someone else has fun with

in terms of the best way to learn and get better, im always of the mindset to just play what you like. Find the playstyle that appeals to you the most, get a build for it, and just practice. As you start practicing and get specific questions, then go online and do some research to answer said questions.

Practice makes perfect and in time youll improve!

DHale wrote: »

It's easier to be tanky and not kill anyone. It's more of a challenge to put out the dps.

I think it's more challenging to find a balance between the two.

Going all damage is easy, going all tank is pretty easy.
Finding ways to be survivable and still do damage...that's more fun to me anyway.

I just play how I want. I don't conform to any metas or "right" choice. I build my room around the way I want to play and use the gear I want to use, same with skills. I may not be able to survive being mowed down by packs in pvp or put out insane burst damage, easy mode isn't fun. My builds achieve exactly what I want them to do and by doing what I design them to they are optimal for me.

When you start being a sheep and playing follow the leader you lose your identity and individuality. That's how it is for me atleast.

geonsocal wrote: »

AJ_1988 wrote: »

I just play how I want. I don't conform to any metas or "right" choice. I build my room around the way I want to play and use the gear I want to use, same with skills. I may not be able to survive being mowed down by packs in pvp or put out insane burst damage, easy mode isn't fun. My builds achieve exactly what I want them to do and by doing what I design them to they are optimal for me.

When you start being a sheep and playing follow the leader you lose your identity and individuality. That's how it is for me atleast.

man, @AJ_1988 ...i hear ya - more than you could guess...i fought all the conform to the meta stuff for a year and a half...cuz, i just wanted to do whatever i wanted...

i had a breton stam blade, a redguard mag blade (who carried a bow ), a magplar wearing 7 pieces of heavy and carrying around a really cool looking 2H battleaxe, a sorcerer who used SnB...i had some seriously "unique" builds...all my characters either used the warrior or apprentice mundus stones...

i had a whole lot of "hybrid" builds and tried to balance out my attributes...and use both magicka and stamina to fight...

That "fun" stuff all worked okay in cyrodiil; however, when i went in to IC i would get my butt handed to me a bunch...

started communicating in and out of game with some much more competitive pvpers...to their credit - they were all very cool to me and no one came straight out and said i had my head up my butt - but, after a while i finally got the message...

if all you really want to do is zerg surf - sure - you can get away with just about any build - however, if you ever hope to survive in small scale pvp - you have to go along with what makes the most sense...

hurt my soul for awhile restructuring most of my characters - however, if i run into any chance encounters either in cyrodiil or IC, i can more than hold my own now...

final thought on this:

I survive alright, ATM I have my imperial stamplar. Running full medium duel 1h+shield and have every fighters guild ability slotted between the 2 bars, I use silver leash as a gap closer, most people in pvp are vamps or wolfs and I love slamming turn undead in the middle of them, plus boosts regent and reduces damage.

Keep doors I throw down caltrops and lightweight beast trap, spear people back into the trap and caltrops and go to town with silver leash from the top, rinse and repeat. It hurts them especially if they are stuck in the trap and trops and you pour oil on them lol.

Currently gathering varies sets ATM to convert back into magicka wearing full heavy and duel 1h+shield. Thinking 5 piece arch Mage on jewerly and weapons so my heavy attack gives magicka and stamina and a chance to proc red diamond. But will prob settle with resort staffs to mag back from heavy attacks and blocking and it is a fair bit combined with heavy armour passives.

My stam ATM is sitting on 37k stamina 27k health 2400ish weapon power and 47% crit unbuffed. Buffed in front bar by jabs and back by expert hunter.

Magicka I haven't decided on skills yet. Thinking one bar melee range with jabs, and radial sweep ulti.

The changed to aura to give magicka steal is handy too, was thinking about using the alliance skill purge as a main purge for the extra regent from the passives. A lot to work out yet but it's already a perfect build for me as it will do what I want it to and can already visualise it in my head.

geonsocal wrote: »

Hi @AJ_1988 ...that sounds very cool - and, most importantly - a lot of fun

templars are a blast and probably my favorite class to play...very forgiving, especially in heavy armor - which is great if i just want to zone out while pvping...

i have a orc stam based templar (wears black rose and dreugh king slayer) - he uses SnB on one bar (for melee) and a lightening staff on the other (for ranged fighting)...

one of the few characters i have whom actually prefers to fight close up in melee range...

it's funny - been playing the game a while now - when i do slot it these days - hitting other players and knocking them down with that javelin never gets old

Haha yeah it's the best especially when you take them off their mount or when they are above inner postern walls, spear them and they die from fall damage. ATM I'm also using the vengeance leech weapon set recovering all resources on kills. Might use it as magic also, I think it's bugged tho as it procs from destroying siege weapons as well and even burning a forward camp procs it. Good indicator of when you get the kill too, the health gained from kills is also buffed by passives in healing received which is another bonus. ATM I'm getting just under 2k health and 1.5 k mag and stam from kills.