Anything which hits them many times fast or stamina draining skills.

Well,people will say drain their stam pool,hard cc etc. but to me there's no counter,especially if you're a stam dk/sorc/temp relying on dizzying swing as your cc. Mdk can permablock easily 2-3 people and there's no way to make even an average player finish his stam pool. I started slotting ballista to dry fast their stam,but many of them just run shield ulti in backbar. I think blockcasting (not animation canceling,i love it and i cried when they took away our sweet wrecking blow+heavy attack) need to be addressed.

Its not really like blocking is killing droves of people in pvp but hey maybe Im wrong.

Turelus wrote: »

Anything which hits them many times fast or stamina draining skills.

This is misleading. As block is hard coded to charge 1140 stamina (with no modifiers) every half second, regardless of how many attacks are blocked. Most folks don't know this and assume you can throw caltrops down on a perma blocker and drain resources.

But you can be sure everyone who has built a perma blocker for pvp purposes knows this. I think the cheapest I was able to get block was around 640 every half second. Couple that with heavy armor and a set or 2 that return resources and this is how you get perma blockers.

Truly the 2 best ways to deal with perma blockers are to use non-blockable skills, like mages fury, power of the light ect. Or to just ignore them.
Aoe CC is hit or miss, but can work depending on the blockers ping and amount of folks hitting them at the time block drops.

However, I assure you, you can not run a person speced for blocking out of resources no matter how many are hitting them if they understand the mechanics.

Patience, and Stam draining poisons.

Xeniph wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Anything which hits them many times fast or stamina draining skills.

This is misleading. As block is hard coded to charge 1140 stamina (with no modifiers) every half second, regardless of how many attacks are blocked. Most folks don't know this and assume you can throw caltrops down on a perma blocker and drain resources.

But you can be sure everyone who has built a perma blocker for pvp purposes knows this. I think the cheapest I was able to get block was around 640 every half second. Couple that with heavy armor and a set or 2 that return resources and this is how you get perma blockers.

Truly the 2 best ways to deal with perma blockers are to use non-blockable skills, like mages fury, power of the light ect. Or to just ignore them.
Aoe CC is hit or miss, but can work depending on the blockers ping and amount of folks hitting them at the time block drops.

However, I assure you, you can not run a person speced for blocking out of resources no matter how many are hitting them if they understand the mechanics.

The point of caltrops or any other fast ticking AoE isn't to run them out of stamina by itself, it's to drain stamina through block while you use skills that don't result in a block cost but force your opponent to use stamina on other things, like break free or heals. It can take a couple minutes (1-2 potion cycles), but if you know the mechanics you can solo a blocker.

There is a non-soloable flavor of perma-blocker that goes the whole nine yards by enchanting 1-3 pieces of jewelry with block cost reduction, specs very high into CP block cost reduction and wears all sturdy. They either do so little damage you can ignore them or are killable in the space of the break free animation by a couple players due to the lack of impenetrable.

Here is a very detailed dev post on the mechanics. [url] https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/265399/detailed-explanation-of-block-cost-changes/p1[/url] The minimum cost you can achieve is 400 stam.

Note that I have yet to run into a frost staff tank that also uses 1h/s, so my comments have nothing to do with that particular form of cancer.

Joy_Division wrote: »

If the opponent is a perma-block tank (usually a DK), the best counter and most intelligent play is to ignore them entirely. These builds rely on player being potatoes.

If the opponent has a more well-rounded build and is using block, she won't be able to maintain that block under pressure. NBs (fear), DKs (fossilize), and sorcs (curse) all have attacks that go through block. While wearing down their stamina, I suggest heavy attacking and DoTs so you dont wear out your own resources.

Also EoTS.

In the case of MagDKs, most of whom rely heavily on blocking for damage mitigation -- since we don't have strong shield -- a negate + heavy damage will usually kill them.

But yeah, if they are blocking and doing nothing else, ignore them until last.

Poisons don't effect block cost, just so y'all know.

Now if they are stupid enough to spam stam abilities, maybe you will drain them. Worth a shot I suppose.

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Petrify, resource poisons, fear, root spam (Encase, Talons) to make them use stam dodge rolling to reposition, Eye of the Storm, etc etc. Permablock's annoying but there's definitely counters.

Most perma blocker use shuffle or the 2h root immunity. So no dodge rolling.

Shame the blocking builds dont rly rely too much on stamregen at all, they get their stam back through constitution or other means that give stamreturn. Ppl can block (if they build for it) way too easily these days.

Fear for night blade, luminous shards for Templar, fossilize for DK, negate for sorcs (doesn't drop block but seems to do the trick).