What happened to PVP?

VanHalen · February 2017

What happened to PVP?
Haven't been in Cyrodiil for a while. And pvp seems changed. I needed some AP to buy some parts for my spaceship.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/325185/spaceship-in-eso-video-and-screenshots-homestead#latest
After capturing an outpost and repairing the wall we faced such a big rage from AD.

https://youtu.be/tJD_2_6gpac
Telling we did something wrong.

What happened to PVP?

Turelus · February 2017

Human nature happened.

Seeking the most rewards for the least effort and resistance. This is the same in every game I have ever played.

EVE Online for example people farm Factional Warfare complexes in ships which can't be stopped from warping away, they warp into a location and sit there on a timer to get a reward. If someone warps in to fight they just leave and go to another site or come back when the hostile has gone.

In SWTOR players on Ilum traded kills to complete the PvP dailies.

runagate · February 2017

VanHalen wrote: »

What happened to PVP?
Haven't been in Cyrodiil for a while. And pvp seems changed. I needed some AP to buy some parts for my spaceship.

After capturing an outpost and repairing the wall we faced such a big rage from AD.
https://youtu.be/tJD_2_6gpac
Telling we did something wrong.

What happened to PVP?

Did one of those people call you Russian poop gravy in French?

OldGamerESO · February 2017

I think they are saying you should be flipping the outpost back and forth, not killing each other. Cooperating to maximize AP. They feel you are purposely not cooperating. I think they are trying to say that your are being a griefer because your motivation is to upset their plans and irritate people.

kuro-dono · February 2017

bunch of human trash, but thats how it is, we human are by nature evil beings. zenimax just need to manup and stop all kind of abuse activites. the moment you abuse something. out. no mercy, not even for streamers.

Rickter · February 2017

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

Turelus · February 2017

Rickter wrote: »

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

I have plenty of videos and screenshots if they want them. Although I would have to include myself in it after this morning.

heystreethawk · February 2017

I just wanna thank you for allowing me to feel good about America for a brief window of time

Hyodyntaa · February 2017

Rickter wrote: »

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

Jotting down @ names for what? The PvP community warned Zos that flipping keeps/outposts/resources would be a thing, and they still brought it in, basically making what happened at BB mine legitimate.

BB mine may have been an exploit in some peoples eyes, but flipping an outpost/keep can't be considered an exploit. It's a legitimate way of farming AP. A clever use of game mechanics.

Don't forget there are people who are roleplaying in keeps/outposts too. Going to "jot down their @ names" too?

Turelus · February 2017

Hyodyntaa wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

Jotting down @ names for what? The PvP community warned Zos that flipping keeps/outposts/resources would be a thing, and they still brought it in, basically making what happened at BB mine legitimate.

BB mine may have been an exploit in some peoples eyes, but flipping an outpost/keep can't be considered an exploit. It's a legitimate way of farming AP. A clever use of game mechanics.

Don't forget there are people who are roleplaying in keeps/outposts too. Going to "jot down their @ names" too?

Whilst I agree this technically isn't an exploit it's obviously not ZOS' intention. Still I will stand on if they wanted to stop this they should have made a statement far sooner than they did.

There is no one legitimately roleplaying during these flips. It's two active groups trading and a bunch of AFK players hiding to gain AP. The RP thing is funny but it's a clear lie.

Hyodyntaa · February 2017

Turelus wrote: »

Hyodyntaa wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

Jotting down @ names for what? The PvP community warned Zos that flipping keeps/outposts/resources would be a thing, and they still brought it in, basically making what happened at BB mine legitimate.

BB mine may have been an exploit in some peoples eyes, but flipping an outpost/keep can't be considered an exploit. It's a legitimate way of farming AP. A clever use of game mechanics.

Don't forget there are people who are roleplaying in keeps/outposts too. Going to "jot down their @ names" too?

Whilst I agree this technically isn't an exploit it's obviously not ZOS' intention. Still I will stand on if they wanted to stop this they should have made a statement far sooner than they did.

There is no one legitimately roleplaying during these flips. It's two active groups trading and a bunch of AFK players hiding to gain AP. The RP thing is funny but it's a clear lie.

There was already a picture posted of Kasa explaining the roleplay and she even made a video welcoming all to come roleplay. Haven't seen it? Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ahy8p6AYRQ

Pallio · February 2017

Weird, usually the pvp crowd is very friendly and welcoming, I usually get tells complementing my skills and good fight etc.

Armitas · February 2017

Sammy Hagar was an inside job.

kuro-dono · February 2017

i might have mentioned earlier, human kind is by nature evil. its just deep inside. we lie, we cheat, we abuse and we act like we are harmless lil angels having just fun. game been out for 3 years? and during that time so many things have gotten overly abused that any nice progress / coding time zenimax could make for something new is put into trying to fix all these problems caused by evil natured people.

Turelus · February 2017

Hyodyntaa wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Hyodyntaa wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

Jotting down @ names for what? The PvP community warned Zos that flipping keeps/outposts/resources would be a thing, and they still brought it in, basically making what happened at BB mine legitimate.

BB mine may have been an exploit in some peoples eyes, but flipping an outpost/keep can't be considered an exploit. It's a legitimate way of farming AP. A clever use of game mechanics.

Don't forget there are people who are roleplaying in keeps/outposts too. Going to "jot down their @ names" too?

Whilst I agree this technically isn't an exploit it's obviously not ZOS' intention. Still I will stand on if they wanted to stop this they should have made a statement far sooner than they did.

There is no one legitimately roleplaying during these flips. It's two active groups trading and a bunch of AFK players hiding to gain AP. The RP thing is funny but it's a clear lie.

There was already a picture posted of Kasa explaining the roleplay and she even made a video welcoming all to come roleplay. Haven't seen it? Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ahy8p6AYRQ

Again it's a good joke but no one including ZOS is going to take it serious.

AhPook_Is_Here · February 2017

VanHalen wrote: »

What happened to PVP?
Haven't been in Cyrodiil for a while. And pvp seems changed. I needed some AP to buy some parts for my spaceship.

After capturing an outpost and repairing the wall we faced such a big rage from AD.
https://youtu.be/tJD_2_6gpac
Telling we did something wrong.

What happened to PVP?

You trying to get off Rimworld?

Loicozor · February 2017

ROFL

That french hate priceless, and I recognize some name that's just epic...

PandaIsAPotato · February 2017

Wrobel happened.

Rin_Senya · February 2017

The level of toxicity on EU is crazy, its sad to see whats happening to this server. Instead of uniting against such behaviour people just avoid it or even attend themselves. Hopefully ZOS will stop turning a blind eye to the EU servers and actually deal with this problem permanently. I don't remember anyone ever being banned on EU for such kind of racist and hateful speach. If these people were on NA they would be gone from the game the next day.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @Wrobel

Turelus · February 2017

Rin_Senya wrote: »

The level of toxicity on EU is crazy, its sad to see whats happening to this server. Instead of uniting against such behaviour people just avoid it or even attend themselves. Hopefully ZOS will stop turning a blind eye to the EU servers and actually deal with this problem permanently. I don't remember anyone ever being banned on EU for such kind of racist and hateful speach. If these people were on NA they would be gone from the game the next day.

I know of people who have been warned/banned for it. This is one thing ZOS does seem pretty good at enforcing if reported.

PandaIsAPotato · February 2017

Rin_Senya wrote: »

The level of toxicity on EU is crazy, its sad to see whats happening to this server. Instead of uniting against such behaviour people just avoid it or even attend themselves. Hopefully ZOS will stop turning a blind eye to the EU servers and actually deal with this problem permanently. I don't remember anyone ever being banned on EU for such kind of racist and hateful speach. If these people were on NA they would be gone from the game the next day.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @Wrobel

I could name five people on NA that were permanently banned for making some rude comments, not anything serious just typical insults. It's silly that they'll ban for that and crit rushing over a rock across thin air but not for the serious things.

Iyas · February 2017

Do that more often pls

Rin_Senya · February 2017

Turelus wrote: »

Rin_Senya wrote: »

The level of toxicity on EU is crazy, its sad to see whats happening to this server. Instead of uniting against such behaviour people just avoid it or even attend themselves. Hopefully ZOS will stop turning a blind eye to the EU servers and actually deal with this problem permanently. I don't remember anyone ever being banned on EU for such kind of racist and hateful speach. If these people were on NA they would be gone from the game the next day.

I know of people who have been warned/banned for it. This is one thing ZOS does seem pretty good at enforcing if reported.

I was playing PVP from launch for 2.5 years on EU, the only people I know who have been banned for "harassment" when killing people behind an enemy base were Exiles. Compared to all the toxic zone chat and whisperers who had absolutely no moderation at all despite saying far worse than anyone's said on NA. Even though many people reported them. It just feels completely hopeless sometimes

Sallington · February 2017

Rickter wrote: »

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

*Checks @ name*
*Checks crown purchases*

"This one can stay."

AbraXuSeXile · February 2017

Rin_Senya wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Rin_Senya wrote: »

The level of toxicity on EU is crazy, its sad to see whats happening to this server. Instead of uniting against such behaviour people just avoid it or even attend themselves. Hopefully ZOS will stop turning a blind eye to the EU servers and actually deal with this problem permanently. I don't remember anyone ever being banned on EU for such kind of racist and hateful speach. If these people were on NA they would be gone from the game the next day.

I know of people who have been warned/banned for it. This is one thing ZOS does seem pretty good at enforcing if reported.

I was playing PVP from launch for 2.5 years on EU, the only people I know who have been banned for "harassment" when killing people behind an enemy base were Exiles. Compared to all the toxic zone chat and whisperers who had absolutely no moderation at all despite saying far worse than anyone's said on NA. Even though many people reported them. It just feels completely hopeless sometimes

Yeah our harassment was locking down EP home base lol.

FearlessOne_2014 · February 2017

Sallington wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

*Checks @ name*
*Checks crown purchases*

"This one can stay."

LMFAO. This post was priceless. However I do not think, that is how that works.

Turelus · February 2017

Sallington wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

*Checks @ name*
*Checks crown purchases*

"This one can stay."

Excellent I am safe then. I am a true whale.

PandaIsAPotato · February 2017

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

why cant a dev just log into the game and start jotting down @ names?

like, get this taken care of in one night

*Checks @ name*
*Checks crown purchases*

"This one can stay."

LMFAO. This post was priceless. However I do not think, that is how that works.

Off the bat sure, but if you appeal and someone with connections to corporate sees you're spending a metric ass ton of cash they'll probably unban you.

EdTerra · February 2017

french community... *facepalm*

Telel · February 2017

Pallio wrote: »

Weird, usually the pvp crowd is very friendly and welcoming, I usually get tells complementing my skills and good fight etc.

AP famers aren't really PVPers though. They're elfish sorts who only go for the easy wins, and wail and weep mean elf words if they ever face a tough obstacle.

And by tough khajiit of course means having to use more than two buttons to get the thing they're after.

Publius_Scipio · February 2017

It's a video game. Why is German such a terrifying magicka wizard and irl collects butterflies and lets them land on his hair? Why is Dubzug the GREATEST LION HEARTED WARRIOR to ever live but irl is in the marching band playing the bass drums after he saw Nick Cannon in Drumline? Why can Jules digitally sleep with all these Pact celebrities but irl wouldn't even allow them to approach and say hello? Why are Iralia's shields always up but irl screen captured, printed to paper, cut out FENGRUSH's face and glued it over the face of someone else in a for women adult magazine for self pleasure?

hahahahahascipiohahahahaha