Twice Born Star set

Alcast · January 2017

Change how this set works. As we all know this set has been abused many times to exploit Mundus stones. Now...
Instead of giving 2 Mundus Stones make it so that it buffs your current Mundus stone by 50% for example.

Voila, no more mundus exploits. And this change is needed as ZOS just changed how UI works and we can NOT even see anymore if enemies use double mundus exploits or not.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

Rohamad_Ali · January 2017

I agree a change is needed .

Dracane · January 2017

Something needs to happen. This set was the source of numerous exploits and bugs, since it was introduced years ago.

Can't be so hard to find a solution.

StackonClown · January 2017

Alcast wrote: »

Change how this set works. As we all know this set has been abused many times to exploit Mundus stones. Now...
Instead of giving 2 Mundus Stones make it so that it buffs your current Mundus stone by 50% for example.

Voila, no more mundus exploits. And this change is needed as ZOS just changed how UI works and we can NOT even see anymore if enemies use double mundus exploits or not.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

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Very well said! this would be a good solution - I hope Zeni takes notice of this...

SickDuck · January 2017

I don't want to see this set ruined just because ZOS can't fix it properly. The choice of two mundus is the main point this set, replacing it with a single, buffed one would make this set just meh.

Rather I'd like to see an option to do a one-time attunement on the set, picking and permanently locking the other mundus bonus. It could even change the name of the item and tooltip to indicate the choice (Twice Born Shadow etc.). Without the option to change second mundus afterwards there would be no exploit.

As a bonus it would give a solution to the annoying behavior of losing the second mundus anytime you change a piece on you.

BlazingDynamo · January 2017

Wow this might be the worst idea ever.

Twice Born Star is perfect how it is, the only change it ever needed was from the 2, 3, and 4 pieces being recovery to max stats.

Lets ban exploiters instead eh? Maybe people will take cheating seriously than.

The_Protagonist · January 2017

Just remove the damn set from the game, if you cant fix it ZOS, we dont want cheaters in the game or good players turning into one to level the field.

Qbiken · January 2017

Isn´t it the addons that causing the exploits?? Might not be a popular idea but a suggestion in that case is to not allow addons, and that zos adds their own "addons" to the game instead.

Cinbri · January 2017

Something must be done for sure.
Why not 100% than?
Right now:
1. If I use atro and pick thief - 5pc literally is 11% crit chance.
2. If i use thief and pick atro - 5pc literally 210 mana regen.
With 50% buff:
1. with atro - 5pc literally will be 105 mana regen.
2. with thief - 5pc literally will be 5% crit chance.

czar · January 2017

They need to fix the exploit, not ruin a good set. We shouldn't have to compromise.

Izaki · January 2017

The set will be trash next patch, so I'm definitely for a rework of the set.

Pixel_Zealot · January 2017

unhander_2 wrote: »

Just remove the damn set from the game, if you cant fix it ZOS, we dont want cheaters in the game or good players turning into one to level the field.

See this kids? This is why we can't have nice things.

It takes weeks, if not months to get 9-trait and mats to craft this set. It bloody-well-better be overpeforming the easy one-dungeon-set-drops.

npuk · January 2017

Pixel_Zealot wrote: »

unhander_2 wrote: »

It takes weeks, if not months to get 9-trait and mats to craft this set. It bloody-well-better be overpeforming the easy one-dungeon-set-drops.

The same can be said for any of the crafted sets, they should all out perform a 5pc drop set or else it makes the crafting aspect of the game redundant.

The_Protagonist · January 2017

Pixel_Zealot wrote: »

unhander_2 wrote: »

Just remove the damn set from the game, if you cant fix it ZOS, we dont want cheaters in the game or good players turning into one to level the field.

See this kids? This is why we can't have nice things.

It takes weeks, if not months to get 9-trait and mats to craft this set. It bloody-well-better be overpeforming the easy one-dungeon-set-drops.

My main intention for for 9 traits research was to make and use TBS, but the exploitation due to the of unintended/intended design has made me very bitter. When action is not taken on cheaters and I see these posts to nerf a set that I spent lots of gold and time patiently waiting to craft and use, triggers me into RAGE.

Warning: RAGE RANT
Just burn the damn thing out of the game or do your flipping job ZOS.

Whats the point of making us research traits for months on end? To get sub-par or bugged sets at the end of a long dark tunnel. We played your horrid RNG, spent real money on subscription to support you make content.

It's us the long term subscribers who have spent the money to keep your servers running, not few month wonders who will move on after completely cheating/breaking the game to oblivion and beyond.

We may be addicted now, but just like life, it wont last forever and ultimately we will move on. Better get your act together ZOS.

And yeah to all you elites, that are going say deal with it, or roll their eyes, you are as bad as the cheaters and exploiters.
END RANT

Siliziumdioxid · January 2017

Cinbri wrote: »

Something must be done for sure.
Why not 100% than?
Right now:
1. If I use atro and pick thief - 5pc literally is 11% crit chance.
2. If i use thief and pick atro - 5pc literally 210 mana regen.
With 50% buff:
1. with atro - 5pc literally will be 105 mana regen.
2. with thief - 5pc literally will be 5% crit chance.

Reason: in this case: TBS would be a too strong Dps set in the game. (Thief Mundus)

Asardes · January 2017

Pixel_Zealot wrote: »

unhander_2 wrote: »

Just remove the damn set from the game, if you cant fix it ZOS, we dont want cheaters in the game or good players turning into one to level the field.

See this kids? This is why we can't have nice things.

It takes weeks, if not months to get 9-trait and mats to craft this set. It bloody-well-better be overpeforming the easy one-dungeon-set-drops.

Mats can be gathered within an hour, but traits take about 14 months to research, if you start out with full passives. It took me 15 months of back to back research to get 9 traits on both clothier and blacksmithing, researching independently.

Xerton · January 2017

Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Something must be done for sure.
Why not 100% than?
Right now:
1. If I use atro and pick thief - 5pc literally is 11% crit chance.
2. If i use thief and pick atro - 5pc literally 210 mana regen.
With 50% buff:
1. with atro - 5pc literally will be 105 mana regen.
2. with thief - 5pc literally will be 5% crit chance.

Reason: in this case: TBS would be by far the strongest Dps set in the game. (Thief Mundus)

No

The_Protagonist · January 2017

Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Something must be done for sure.
Why not 100% than?
Right now:
1. If I use atro and pick thief - 5pc literally is 11% crit chance.
2. If i use thief and pick atro - 5pc literally 210 mana regen.
With 50% buff:
1. with atro - 5pc literally will be 105 mana regen.
2. with thief - 5pc literally will be 5% crit chance.

Reason: in this case: TBS would be a too strong Dps set in the game. (Thief Mundus)

Check PTS patch notes for update 13, it's not going to be strong anymore.

Anazasi · January 2017

If this set is being exploited again it needs to go. ZOS has attempted to fix it, tried to catch the players using it, removed the only way for the players to police themselves in an effort to help ZOS ban the exploiters. So it should just go away from game because no one can fix the issue.

Sorry replace it with something else that has 0% chance of being exploited.

Perhaps make it increase materials gathered by 200% so the 9 trait set will be useful to the crafting population.

GawdSB · January 2017

No, *** off. Idk what exploit you're talking about must not be a console thing. Leave it like it is and if there are exploits then ZOS can deal with those.

Anazasi · January 2017

GawdSB wrote: »

No, *** off. Idk what exploit you're talking about must not be a console thing. Leave it like it is and if there are exploits then ZOS can deal with those.

Zos dealt with it before but like many of their fixes they are just duct tape band aides. Apparently the exploit has resurfaced on PC a year later because of the set. Sorry but that's 2 strikes on this set and frankly it needs to go.

AzuraKin · January 2017

*** no. i would quit game if 3 of my toons gear was suddenly worthless.

xblackroxe · January 2017

GawdSB wrote: »

No, *** off. Idk what exploit you're talking about must not be a console thing. Leave it like it is and if there are exploits then ZOS can deal with those.

It also works on your precious cheat and exploit free consoles.

Nefaras · January 2017

AzuraKin wrote: »

*** no. i would quit game if 3 of my toons gear was suddenly worthless.

have you read natch potes? Pretty sure twice born star is after patch not bis anymore.

Asardes · January 2017

What if people "exploit" by mistake and get perma-banned? A long time ago the set could be removed while dead and you were stuck with both mundus stones.

idk · January 2017

It may be needed. I've heard an exploit for the set was back and if Zos cannot fix something like this it needs to change the design.

Kazya · January 2017

I must admit I am kinda concerned... what is the exploit? Reason I ask is simply that I was told to get the set for one of my characters, and did so. Have been using it while levelling her skills etc, though I was honestly not aware of any exploit so is concerned as I would not want to be part of soemthing like that.

Docmandu · January 2017

Changing this set would be yet another band-aid solution (which they are experts in tbh)... proper solution would be to have actual automated tests to catch mistakes like this! But creating tests actually costs money that can be immediately attributed to the task.. whereas fixing the same bug 10x is just 10 individual cost lines in a spreadsheet somewhere.

Waffennacht · January 2017

Nefaras wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

*** no. i would quit game if 3 of my toons gear was suddenly worthless.

have you read natch potes? Pretty sure twice born star is after patch not bis anymore.

Wut cuz of the crit modifiers being slightly reduced?

Qbiken · January 2017

As I wrote earlier in this thread this exploit is doable due to the usage of addons. Without addons this exploit is no possible to execute. The most "simple" solution would be to forbid the usage of addons. ZOS should instead create their own addons to the game that can´t be used to exploit stuff in game.

DPShiro · January 2017

Yes, rework/buff the set so it's useful again next patch!

No, don't remove it or make it worse by listening, to once again, the whining pvp minority.