When Is Dev's gonna start takeing balance serious?

Jprip88b16_ESO · January 2017

Like title says when will the Dev's at zenimax take ESO, Pvp and Skill balance serious?

Played the game since closed beta, and its 80% still the same in how unbalanced so many Skills or weapon tree's are Example.

Twohanded Weapon tree.. been unbalanced since Beta, got the best highest dmg of all the skill tree's Got rally, the only heal you really need.. now with 1 of THE best ultimates in the game + morphs..

Bow weapon tree.. Same been the 2'nd most unbalanced since beta, secound highest dmg of all skills if not a shared 1st place with twohand? You got Snipe, that you can shoot from sneak animation cancel into another snipe into a Heavy or Poisen injection.. and what happens? the target get hits with 2x Snipe + poisen injection instantly at the same time, and is 85% dead Now with problery the 2 or 3 best ultimate of the game? problery with only Destro staff and Twohand above it?

then you got Skills like Magicka Detonation.. that is still one of the Top 5 MOST used skills in the hole game, cyrodiil wise it only cost like 3500 magicka ( without reduce spell cost ) and have one of the highest damage out puts in the game.. yet another skill thats been abused since beta and release

on example PC EU Cyrodiil Azura's Star or Trueflame you got Blobs of people just running around spamming Caltrops, magicka detonation and Eye of flame ultimate combied with Say Grothdar's Monster set rolling true everything liveing off 3 AEO skills

I have loved ESO since i played it in beta, but i have to say.. its only gorn Down a steep hill ever since CP's and 1.6 got released, been the same patch after patch a new To over powerfull set like say Clever alchemist, only to get replaced at another patch by a new set thats even more to powerfull, and its sad to see and for me personly can't see ESO ever recoverying from this and the poor balance in the game, both set, skills and weapon tree wise.. Even now it dont matter if you use heavy or not people will punch just as easy true it heavy or light even without CP's

Rohamad_Ali · January 2017

They are taking it seriously in a direction we don't all agree with . Soft caps and a better battle spirit buff would of addressed the floor and ceiling height without gutting class mechanics , in my opinion . But I'm just a forum Khajiit so they prefer I make light hearted jokes ...

zuto40 · January 2017

2h ult sucks yo whatre you talking about, same with bow, sounds like a L2P issue now

Reverb · January 2017

I'm confident that they are taking it seriously. I don't like many of the decisions that make,but I do think they're trying and that they care.

Jprip88b16_ESO · January 2017

Reverb wrote: »

I'm confident that they are taking it seriously. I don't like many of the decisions that make,but I do think they're trying and that they care.

I would like to think that aswell but since the 2 strongest weapon tree's since beta, is still the strongest and most out of balance in terms of both damage, Stun and heal ( Twohanded in this case ) then i have to say its a pretty poor effort.. even when you just look at the ultimates they got when they gave weapon tree's ultimates..

without a doubt Twohand and bow got the best besides destro staff.. Duel wield is useless and so is Restro staff and SnB is pretty useless aswell compared to them 3 it wont save you anyway 5 sec free blocking or not

thankyourat · January 2017

I would argue that sword and board is the best weapon skill line right now because it's animation cancel friendly has a super buggy stun and mitigates alot of damage. I've only been hit by the two hand ultimate twice and I've only seen one person who wasn't a zerger use the bow ultimate. Magicka Det sucks as well. Alot of your points seem a little out dated. But you are right in the fact that this game is kind of going downhill, but that's because of proc sets and heavy armor builds who use proc sets. These resource poisons are pretty stupid as well

DHale · January 2017

Soft caps were in the game. I was ffffffaaaaarrrrrr more powerful than I am now. In seducer and warlock vr 10 and vr 12 I could cast over 50 breaths of life... in a row. On a DK I could drop bats and standards every time the other ended if I killed a bunch of people. Soft caps only showed people exactly when they were equal in power to the best players. On a stam nb you could dodge roll from the ash gate to ash. It was fun I would have a dozen people following without getting hit more than a coup,e of times.

SHADOW2KK · January 2017

...............sooon....

PurifedBladez · January 2017

Dude like you said you've been around since beta and it's only gotten worse.. it's not going to get better again. It'll never be the same game we all loved in the beginning. They would literally have to remove almost all of their *** work from the past year or so.

I wanted to get back into it recently because I do love eso but even I have to realize when it's time to move on. I'm not bitter about it really I got a lot out of eso but as a dedicated pvp player this game isn't ideal even though it had the potential to be even better then it was.

Sucks to see such a wasted effort on something as badass as a Elder Scrolls title. I remember playing some of the old TES games and just imagining how awesome it would be to battle against other players.

Jaronking · January 2017

thankyourat wrote: »

I would argue that sword and board is the best weapon skill line right now because it's animation cancel friendly has a super buggy stun and mitigates alot of damage. I've only been hit by the two hand ultimate twice and I've only seen one person who wasn't a zerger use the bow ultimate. Magicka Det sucks as well. Alot of your points seem a little out dated. But you are right in the fact that this game is kind of going downhill, but that's because of proc sets and heavy armor builds who use proc sets. These resource poisons are pretty stupid as well

S&B been really good for a long time but not many people ran it. Especially on Xbox well not until @Sypher posted builds using it and even then not many people used it.Compare to other weapons combo 2h provide the best burst not using a proc set in pvp but DW gives you the highest weapon damage.

Anti_Virus · January 2017

thankyourat wrote: »

I would argue that sword and board is the best weapon skill line right now because it's animation cancel friendly has a super buggy stun and mitigates alot of damage. I've only been hit by the two hand ultimate twice and I've only seen one person who wasn't a zerger use the bow ultimate. Magicka Det sucks as well. Alot of your points seem a little out dated. But you are right in the fact that this game is kind of going downhill, but that's because of proc sets and heavy armor builds who use proc sets. These resource poisons are pretty stupid as well

Meh imo I think it's still bad it can't deal decent dps.

Mojmir · January 2017

It's ironic when players treat a game more serious than its developers.

mtwiggz · January 2017

Mojmir wrote: »

It's ironic when players treat a game more serious than its developers.

It's moronic when players treat a game more serious than its developers.

Fixed.

Jprip88b16_ESO · January 2017

Do you people really think that all them players currently useing twohanded or bow, do so coruse that was what they really wanted when they got the game?? com on now, they are more passively forced to if they wana have a chance at defending them self

And if you look at armor, dont matter if you use Heavy or medium or light, they are gonna hit past it like wet toilet paper there are no longer any tradeoffs in ESO when it com to picking a build type like heavy tank sustain, would have low dps since he had focused more to takeing hits and manageing resources, while DPS would have higher dps but cant take so many hits

Now you can be a Abrams Tank, shooting mini nukes and have a self repair ( Heal ) to outlast 5 other abrams tanks ( Players ) hitting you

We playing ESO or GW2?

Lord-Otto · January 2017

mtwiggz wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

It's ironic when players treat a game more serious than its developers.

It's moronic when players treat a game more serious than its developers.

Fixed.

Not at all.
WE are playing the game, WE are struggling with the flaws. Every. Day. For months.
ZOS are just counting the dollars.
It is our responsibility to grab ZOS, shake them, and make 100% clear that their stupid ideas for "balancing" are stupid.

susmitds · January 2017

LOL wut!??

2H, Bow ultimates OP?

People use those?

Heck, even stamina builds started using destro ulti.

hassubhai · January 2017

Never their brains arent developed enough to balance the game properly

Saint_Bud · January 2017

What balance???
We asking for that and server performance since imperial city was released.

DHale · January 2017

Balanced doesn't mean equal.