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Bug or not? Light armor cost redux

Ishammael
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Light armor cost reduction is reducing the cost of ultimates. This I have confirmed personally. I have been told that it is also reducing the cost of break free as well. I cannot confirm this.

I put this in another thread on the Alliance War section, but I don't think it got any visibility.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler can y'all confirm if this is intended or not? It would be a great change!
  • SublimeSparo
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    *Oh No how terrible!*
    (Hopes this one makes it to live to be fixed in 4months time)
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  • Derra
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    How can something like that not be intentional.

    Are you devs really testing stuff like that internally and it slips through cleanup?
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  • ZOS_KNowak
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    This is a bug. Evocation (the Light Armor passive) should only reduce the cost of Magicka abilities, not ALL abilities. This is a new bug introduced with Update 13, and we plan to fix this in a future PTS build.
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  • Ishammael
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    ZOS_KNowak wrote: »
    This is a bug. Evocation (the Light Armor passive) should only reduce the cost of Magicka abilities, not ALL abilities. This is a new bug introduced with Update 13, and we plan to fix this in a future PTS build.

    Can you be convinced to leave it?!
    o:)
  • Koolio
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    Yea. I read this and thought. OMG maybe it is intentional to you know "balance" light armor alittle. Sad to see its a bug and there will be no "balance" between the armor.
  • Nifty2g
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    Would be nice for light armor
    #MOREORBS
  • Armitas
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    ZOS_KNowak wrote: »
    This is a bug. Evocation (the Light Armor passive) should only reduce the cost of Magicka abilities, not ALL abilities. This is a new bug introduced with Update 13, and we plan to fix this in a future PTS build.

    Light armor is great for sorcs and somewhat for NBs because things like mine forts, mobility and cloak can protect a shield from constant damage, but beyond that LA doesn't seem very competitive with heavy armor in many cases. I think this could be a nice way of bringing it inline with Heavy Armor through defensive ultimate's and it also provides a nice reduction to dodge roll which LA users need as well. What is particuarly great about it is that it doesn't buff along the same points (ex buffing shieds) that make sorcs thrive in LA. Think about keeping at least some of it in place.
    Edited by Armitas on 5 January 2017 21:36
    Retired.
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  • MopeyHat
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    Break free reduction would be awesome. And you know, make some amount of sense.
  • Areloth
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    I also like this - and basically it makes sense, because it is easier to dodge roll and break free with some robes than with a heavy steel armor equipped.

    Please leave it like this, would be the best balancing in this patch so far.
  • Nifty2g
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    I don't think there is anyone who is against this
    #MOREORBS
  • Koolio
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    I don't think there is anyone who is against this

    The opposite can be said about a good bit of the entire patch lmao. Blazing spear. Strife. Curse.
    Edited by Koolio on 5 January 2017 21:58
  • Sigtric
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    ZOS_KNowak wrote: »
    This is a bug. Evocation (the Light Armor passive) should only reduce the cost of Magicka abilities, not ALL abilities. This is a new bug introduced with Update 13, and we plan to fix this in a future PTS build.

    @ZOS_KNowak

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  • Pandorii
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    ZOS_KNowak wrote: »
    This is a bug. Evocation (the Light Armor passive) should only reduce the cost of Magicka abilities, not ALL abilities. This is a new bug introduced with Update 13, and we plan to fix this in a future PTS build.

    @ZOS_KNowak

    What kind of cookies do you like?
    Pie?
    Pizza?

    BOOZE?


    Yes this is a bribe to keep this effect in, and I am not ashamed.

    This worked for the lightning staff AoE. Am I right?
  • Lord_Hev
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    Hello @ZOS_KNowak from another thread:

    I think this is a good thing, but it is reducing ult by too much. More than likely it is just a bug.
    Lord_Hev wrote: »

    Agreed, how about a compromise?


    0.3%/0.5%/1% Ult reduction in addition with 1%/2%/3% magicka cost reduction.


    5% ult reduction in 5 light + 15% spell cost reduction.


    @Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno


    This was an unexpected bug, but also very welcome. Perhaps ult reduction could be considered in some manner for light armor passives? Please pass this feedback along, Many would welcome this as a needed buff for light armor users.
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  • Malamar1229
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    LA vampires rejoice!
  • Koolio
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    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    Hello @ZOS_KNowak from another thread:

    I think this is a good thing, but it is reducing ult by too much. More than likely it is just a bug.
    Lord_Hev wrote: »

    Agreed, how about a compromise?


    0.3%/0.5%/1% Ult reduction in addition with 1%/2%/3% magicka cost reduction.


    5% ult reduction in 5 light + 15% spell cost reduction.


    @Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno


    This was an unexpected bug, but also very welcome. Perhaps ult reduction could be considered in some manner for light armor passives? Please pass this feedback along, Many would welcome this as a needed buff for light armor users.

    I might actually be able to use an ultimate in a duel against nightblades a change. Instead of getting hit with 4 incaps before I can get a meteor even stored up.
  • Ishammael
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    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    Hello @ZOS_KNowak from another thread:

    I think this is a good thing, but it is reducing ult by too much. More than likely it is just a bug.
    Lord_Hev wrote: »

    Agreed, how about a compromise?


    0.3%/0.5%/1% Ult reduction in addition with 1%/2%/3% magicka cost reduction.


    5% ult reduction in 5 light + 15% spell cost reduction.


    @Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno


    This was an unexpected bug, but also very welcome. Perhaps ult reduction could be considered in some manner for light armor passives? Please pass this feedback along, Many would welcome this as a needed buff for light armor users.

    Maybe 2% per piece? Dunno.
  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    I don't think there is anyone who is against this

    if no one is against this, then you just know they won't keep it
  • DHale
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    Too much to hope for buffs to light armor ..... kappa.
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  • Duukar
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    I think this makes sense. Especially the break free reduction. Imagine how much easier it would be to disentagle ones self from a web with a Tshirt on VS clunky heavy armor......
  • psychotic13
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    Isn't it great that they make the best changes by accident
  • NBrookus
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    ZOS_KNowak wrote: »
    This is a bug. Evocation (the Light Armor passive) should only reduce the cost of Magicka abilities, not ALL abilities. This is a new bug introduced with Update 13, and we plan to fix this in a future PTS build.

    @ZOS_KNowak Another vote for keeping it. Light armor needs a buff and this is -- however inadvertent -- actually a really good idea for light armor builds.
  • JodaGreyhame
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    I agree - the majority of players are using heavy armor. Keep some portion of this "bug" for light armor users for greater balance and to make light armor great again!
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  • Nifty2g
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    @ZOS_KNowak It says reduces the cost of spells, I think this would be a good addition to light armor for sure. I reckon you guys should reconsider "fixing" this and keep it an addition
    #MOREORBS
  • silky_soft
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    Pretty op. Medium would need something as crazy. Like movement speed or passive shield/block damage.
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  • Toast_STS
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    Please keep the ulti cost reduction at least. This is the best bug ever.
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  • Koolio
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    silky_soft wrote: »
    Pretty op. Medium would need something as crazy. Like movement speed or passive shield/block damage.

    Like Dodge roll reduction and reduces stealth range? Plus actually having better resistances. And 2 of light armors Passives in 1?
  • Konstant_Tel_Necris
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    Thats kind of bugs what actully worth become feature, common light armor need thats buff.
  • Juhasow
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    There is 1 candidate to be removed from light armor and changed to reduce ultimate which is Spell Warding. For now this passives is totally useless in case where every light armor user in time of highest pressure using shields which supress spell resistance.
    Edited by Juhasow on 6 January 2017 01:29
  • tplink3r1
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    If that will make LA user cry less about HA, then just leave it like this.
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