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VICIOUS DEATH IS BACK

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stephbay123
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Lately PVP has been tough with all these proc sets but now with the latest updated vicious death is back.

On Sunday when I died my recap showed 2 x vicious death for 12k each and 2 x viper sting for i think about 4k each in one recap. What is the point in trying to improve your gear, skills and gameplay if PVP is now simply about how much you can proc?
  • Alucardo
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    It's annoying when you're trying to get away from an ally group, but they keep running into you before dying and blowing up from a vicious explosion xD
  • Sanct16
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    Well vicious death is hardly compareable to viper.
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  • stephbay123
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    Sanct16 wrote: »
    Well vicious death is hardly compareable to viper.

    True but just adds to the list of procs being used in PVP- which is meant to be player versus player not player versus procs
  • stephbay123
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    Sanct16 wrote: »
    Well vicious death is hardly compareable to viper.

    True but just adds to the list of procs being used in PVP- which is meant to be player versus player not player versus procs
  • Kutsuu
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    Isn't the radius only 4m on VD? I'd think you can easily avoid that by not balling up.
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  • stephbay123
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    Kutsuu wrote: »
    Isn't the radius only 4m on VD? I'd think you can easily avoid that by not balling up.

    4 meters doesn't mean you are in the middle of a ball and zerghing.
  • ManDraKE
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    play solo, problem solved :trollface:
  • AzuraKin
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    actually there is nothing wrong with vicious death. vicious death is dependent on the person wearing it getting the killing blow. its not just oh i hit him he died vd procs, its i hit him i the last to hit him because my damage finished him off now vd procs. on top of that vd only effects other players in a 4m (very small radius) around the player when he dies.
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  • Kutsuu
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    stephbay123 wrote: »
    Kutsuu wrote: »
    Isn't the radius only 4m on VD? I'd think you can easily avoid that by not balling up.

    4 meters doesn't mean you are in the middle of a ball and zerghing.

    It does mean that you were extremely close to the player who exploded. Not sure if you're familiar but that's half the radius of Impulse for example.
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  • AzuraKin
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    Kutsuu wrote: »
    stephbay123 wrote: »
    Kutsuu wrote: »
    Isn't the radius only 4m on VD? I'd think you can easily avoid that by not balling up.

    4 meters doesn't mean you are in the middle of a ball and zerghing.

    It does mean that you were extremely close to the player who exploded. Not sure if you're familiar but that's half the radius of Impulse for example.

    impulse is 6m. your thinking sap essence which is 8m
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    v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
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    v160 warrior (DragonKnight)
    v160 assassin (nightblade)
    v160 swordsman (sorcerer)
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  • Dk_needs_a_buff
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    Viciouse death should never have been made. Why should you die because someone next to you died?
  • stephbay123
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    play solo, problem solved :trollface:

    The point of PVP is to capture keeps and resources. When using a siege weapon, trying to enter a keep breach or while in a battle and dieing because someone next to you dies is rubbish. Its just another cancer proc set but on another massive scale.

    With all the new weapon ultimates zerghs can easily be demolished- at least that would be an ability doing the killing instead of a proc

  • Ankael07
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    stephbay123 wrote: »
    Sanct16 wrote: »
    Well vicious death is hardly compareable to viper.

    True but just adds to the list of procs being used in PVP- which is meant to be player versus player not player versus procs

    Nerieneth's and Sellitrix are proc sets too. Do you think they should be excluded from the game as well? Proc sets should come with a condition for the proc such as delayed time, low but consistent dot etc or having need to kill an enemy ( Vicious Death).

    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
  • Lava_Croft
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    Sanct16 wrote: »
    Well vicious death is hardly compareable to viper.
    But not any less badly designed. It's stupid just being near some random paperbag scrub will proc 10k+ damage on you. Especially in group play VD outshines Viper easily.
    Edited by Lava_Croft on 6 December 2016 14:06
  • stephbay123
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    stephbay123 wrote: »
    Sanct16 wrote: »
    Well vicious death is hardly compareable to viper.

    True but just adds to the list of procs being used in PVP- which is meant to be player versus player not player versus procs

    Nerieneth's and Sellitrix are proc sets too. Do you think they should be excluded from the game as well? Proc sets should come with a condition for the proc such as delayed time, low but consistent dot etc or having need to kill an enemy ( Vicious Death).

    Sure these sets proc but at a 10% chance- not 100% and they do less than half the damage. Not on the same level as VD
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    PVP Math

    Shatter Soul + VD = Fun

    Velindreth + Radiant Oppression = Fun

    Shatter Soul + VD x Velindreth + Radiant Oppression = Fun Squared

    Multiply Fun Squared by Eye of the Storm = Fun Cubed

    Yet ... Fun Cubed < AOE spamming Stam Sorcs

    And before you ask ... a Stam Proc set works very well for Magplars when paired with pokey sticks as well.
  • Sandman929
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    I hated Vicious Death when it first came out. A set that procs high damage just because a player killed someone near me? That sounded like the worst idea possible for the game.
    But then ZOS made sets that proc high damage for performing a light attack.....now Vicious Death seems OK by comparison.
  • threefarms
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    New set idea:

    Vicious Viper
    2 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    3 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    4 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    5 piece: Your magic attacks deal an additional 8000 Oblivion damage. This can occur every 5 seconds. When you kill an enemy with Oblivion damage, they explode, dealing 10,000 Flame, Frost, or Shock damage to all enemies in a 15ft radius. If an enemy is killed by the explosion, your max magic returns to 100%.
    Adds 129 Stamina Recovery.

    There. Balance has come...
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    threefarms wrote: »
    New set idea:

    Vicious Viper
    2 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    3 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    4 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    5 piece: Your magic attacks deal an additional 8000 Oblivion damage. This can occur every 5 seconds. When you kill an enemy with Oblivion damage, they explode, dealing 10,000 Flame, Frost, or Shock damage to all enemies in a 15ft radius. If an enemy is killed by the explosion, your max magic returns to 100%.
    Adds 129 Stamina Recovery.

    There. Balance has come...

    Before that 5 piece stam recovery I thought you were crazy.
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    Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »
    Viciouse death should never have been made. Why should you die because someone next to you died?

    hahahahaha...too funny - those were my exact thoughts the first time I saw it on my death recap (arena district in IC where there would be like 30 people fighting in a phone booth)...

    what a cruel freaking joke to get killed by your own ally - seriously what wonderfully twisted individual thought that one up...bravo...

    after being extremely butt hurt by getting hit with it over and over and over again - my thoughts soon switched to 'hmmmm, I can't wait to get me a set of that stuff'...

    there are definitely much "better" sets out there, when it was broken, and in pve, I switched to elegance...

    kinda bummed the range got nerfed - still fun though to share a little VD with my pvp buddies...and, as always- work's great with siege weapons (oh yeah, that's a whole other discussion :))...
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  • BuggeX
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    VD is just good in combination with the true death. Eye of the noobs
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  • Bosov
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    threefarms wrote: »
    New set idea:

    Vicious Viper
    2 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    3 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    4 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    5 piece: Your magic attacks deal an additional 8000 Oblivion damage. This can occur every 5 seconds. When you kill an enemy with Oblivion damage, they explode, dealing 10,000 Flame, Frost, or Shock damage to all enemies in a 15ft radius. If an enemy is killed by the explosion, your max magic returns to 100%.
    Adds 129 Stamina Recovery.

    There. Balance has come...

    Where do i put my cp to increase Oblivion damage?
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  • Lexxypwns
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    Bosov wrote: »
    threefarms wrote: »
    New set idea:

    Vicious Viper
    2 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    3 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    4 piece: Adds 129 spell damage
    5 piece: Your magic attacks deal an additional 8000 Oblivion damage. This can occur every 5 seconds. When you kill an enemy with Oblivion damage, they explode, dealing 10,000 Flame, Frost, or Shock damage to all enemies in a 15ft radius. If an enemy is killed by the explosion, your max magic returns to 100%.
    Adds 129 Stamina Recovery.

    There. Balance has come...

    Where do i put my cp to increase Oblivion damage?

    Its unlocked in the crown store
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