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ESO is not fun!
F2P_savior_of_ESO
Soul Shriven
Why can't MMORPG's just be easy and fun? Not easy in a gameplay sense but easy in a "just let them loose in the world to do what they want" kind of sense.
This game took ♥♥♥♥ing forever to get past the tutorial which honestly I absolutely hated, and then it plopped me down in a place I don't care about and never told me how to leave,
just that I should take a side in this boring plot line that I had no reason to be invested in.
Okay great, an unlikable character is stuck in coldharbor with Molag Bol and I gotta stop him from doing something with an anchor... What does that have to do with the war? Do I really have to join a side and do chores for them to progress?
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BUSY WORK?!
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Fodore✭✭✭✭It is fun
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✭✭✭✭✭F2P_savior_of_ESO wrote: »WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BUSY WORK?!
Lol sounds like MMOs aren't for you my man. I won't deny that the quests are pretty boring. When levelling new characters I don't even bother with them any more, and thank god you can skip the wailing prison after having completed it once.
The main quest line isn't even worth the damn skill points. The Prophet can keep them for all I care.22 -
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pattyLtd✭✭✭✭✭I think this is a case where "you know you don't have to be here right?" is justified OP.
Play something you do like.
Even with it's many issues i truelly love ESO.English is not my native language, no grammar police please, tyvm29 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Afaik, MMORPG are all about grinding zones/quests so you can get into groups to grind gear and stuff. Also, maybe some RP now and then. Some of us find ESO fun, even when killed in PvE/PvP, being yelled on by random ppl and so on. If you don't find ESO fun, I am sorry to hear that, maybe some other game will give you levels of enjoyment you seek. Until then, try making chars in different alliances, maybe you simply dislike the starting area you are in now.0 -
pattyLtd✭✭✭✭✭F2P_savior_of_ESO wrote: »WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BUSY WORK?!
Lol sounds like MMOs aren't for you my man. I won't deny that the quests are pretty boring. When levelling new characters I don't even bother with them any more, and thank god you can skip the wailing prison after having completed it once.
The main quest line isn't even worth the damn skill points. The Prophet can keep them for all I care.
I agree but i did like with my first character.
But yea the characters after that mostly stayed in old orsinium till level 50 :PEnglish is not my native language, no grammar police please, tyvm0 -
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Stopnaggin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Really sounds lie MMORPG is not what you want to play. You can get by with just the main quests which don't take long. Collect skyshards as you go through zones. I guess I don't understand what you are looking for.
The tutorial isn't that long, most quests aren't that long. After the tutorial you can do as you please, anywhere anytime no restrictions, so that's an invalid argument.
I'm not saying by any means that some of it isn't boring, but that's an MMO for ya. The longer I think about if you don't like the game why did you bother signing up for the forums to complain? Seems more like trolling.3 -
Flynch✭✭✭✭Combining the OP's username with their major complaint about 'busy work' is like dividing by zero.12 -
KingYogi415✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Head back to destiny where you can buy max level boosters then get spoonfed the rest of the content in a couple hours.
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✭✭✭F2P_savior_of_ESO wrote: »Why can't MMORPG's just be easy and fun? Not easy in a gameplay sense but easy in a "just let them loose in the world to do what they want" kind of sense.
This game took ♥♥♥♥ing forever to get past the tutorial which honestly I absolutely hated, and then it plopped me down in a place I don't care about and never told me how to leave,
just that I should take a side in this boring plot line that I had no reason to be invested in.
Okay great, an unlikable character is stuck in coldharbor with Molag Bol and I gotta stop him from doing something with an anchor... What does that have to do with the war? Do I really have to join a side and do chores for them to progress?
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BUSY WORK?!
I don't want you to think too hard, so I created a topic for your next post: Why do I have to train my horse every ♥♥♥♥ing day
Welcome to ESO! Where real life ends.
Edited by vamp_emily on 21 November 2016 15:51
If you want a friend, get a dog.
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Panomania✭✭✭✭I once asked how my cousin can sit and go through a mountain of stamps with a magnifying glass finding just the right one. Same with my uncle and his coins. They asked me how I can possibly read Marvel or DC and treat them the way they treat their coins. I cannot comprehend how ANYONE can possibly dress like a Scottish pimp and chase a little white ball across a half mile of someone's over-manicured lawn....or sit and watch stupid *** 1 chase stupid *** 2 around and around in an eternal oval in a crappy "domestic" car.
Dont even get me started on bird watching or collecting commemorative plates!!
Hobbyists do what they do because they love it. Genuine MMORPG gamers are EXACTLY that: hobbyists. Sure, "casuals" also play, but they dont really count or matter in the grand scheme of things...they simply top the hobbyist tater with a tasty gravy that keeps game company shareholders happy.
Can games endure without the casual gravy? Surely. Some games still out there that endure and thrive because of a solid base of enthusiasts and almost NO casual players (the initials E and Q come to mind). Without the hobbyist the game wont endure, because there's no hype. No buzz. Without these players there's nothing for the gravy to stick to, leaving a gloppy, useless mess on the plate that, while still tasty on its own, isnt all that appealing and just seeps all over things it really shouldnt go with.....
Ok, taking the metaphor too far. Bottom line: "grind" is a null term if you are enjoying playing. If you dont enjoy that activity, find another to do. If you cant find an activity in the game you enjoy, why the hell are you logging in?? BUT, that being said, its similar to reading a boo....ok, bad example, most people dont actually read anymore. Its similar to watching a movie: the first ten minutes wont always tell you how good its gonna be. Sometimes you need to be patient, ride out the boring setup so you can get to the REAL story.The opinions of others should always be heard, especially if they dont agree with your own! But you always reserve the right to laugh at them.3 -
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Besides you not being the savior of ESO, I'd suggest you look at a differnt game if your that disconnected and dissatisfied with the beginning of this game.
The starting area should not take that long and never has to be repeated unless someone messes up crating a new character.
All of this is really moot since you have zero interest in the story line which and dislike the character you created even though you clearly know nothing about the game.
Honestly, rage threads from free week players should be closed upon creation.2 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Generally speaking, if you "absolutely hate" a tutorial, then that is an early indication that the game is not for you. That's an observation, not a criticism. Each to his/her own.
Out of interest, OP, what other MMORPGs have you played, which ones did you enjoy, and what other types of game do you also play? In short, what is the gaming background that led you to this instant dislike of ESO?1 -
Panomania✭✭✭✭And I had to giggle that ZOS actually felt they had to censor a colloquial reference to someone of extreme rural heritage, perhaps with a crimson nape The opinions of others should always be heard, especially if they dont agree with your own! But you always reserve the right to laugh at them.0
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✭A good book on the subject is A Theory of Fun for Game Design by Raph Koster.
He was the original designer of Ultima Online and Star Wars Galaxies but this book is quite broad in its examination of fun in the context of all sorts of games.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Wait till you see how many forum game complaint threads it takes to earn forum stars.
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Sigma957✭✭✭✭✭ESO is absolutely lots of fun to play, been playing since launch and still loving it. Guess OP was here just for the free weekend so really has no idea about the game.
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✭✭This guy had a hatred for ESO before he even finished making his @Name, so don't bother trying to convince them of anything.love is love3 -
[Deleted User]Soul ShrivenThe user and all related content has been deleted.Edited by [Deleted User] on 21 November 2016 16:090
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✭✭✭✭✭GrumpyMuffin wrote: »I agree in part with the OP. Maybe the worst time Ive had with the game since getting it (for the first time) a couple of years back was the first week. The game looked good, was fun but I had no idea what to do, where to go etc
For me, that is a massive part of the enjoyment in the first few sessions playing a new game. I hate being spoon-fed the first few levels with markers showing me exactly where to go next. I like to explore, feel my way, see what options there are and generally get a feel for things on my own - I never have understood those new players who ask the most obvious questions in public chat or sit at the login point calling out "Lvl 1 LFG" ! 1 -
Garethjolnir✭✭✭✭You hated the tutorial, you don't care about the place you ended up in next, you think the plot is boring and that there's no reason for you to be invested in it, you appear to not like the quests, and the game is not fun for you.
Why are you playing this game? Why are you even bothering making topics?Viele grüße aus Germany. Neu Heimat.3 -
Flameheart✭✭✭✭✭I advice playing a few months the good old Everquest or some other good old hardcore MMOs. I have the strong belief that the TO's subjective sense for fun will have a hard change and he may appreciate the freedom of the gameplay of ESO.Sometimes the prey turns and nips us... it's a small thing.
So let the snow flakes and unicorns dance alone until they melt or vanish from existence, we will finish up with those smart enough to stay in the glowing circle of love.
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gard✭✭✭✭✭F2P_savior_of_ESO wrote: »WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BUSY WORK?!
Lol sounds like MMOs aren't for you my man. I won't deny that the quests are pretty boring. When levelling new characters I don't even bother with them any more, and thank god you can skip the wailing prison after having completed it once.
The main quest line isn't even worth the damn skill points. The Prophet can keep them for all I care.
I clicked agree, but really only with the first sentence.
The quests and plot are fairly well done I think. It's just that after having done them once, the luster wears off.
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AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭F2P_savior_of_ESO wrote: »Why can't MMORPG's just be easy and fun? Not easy in a gameplay sense but easy in a "just let them loose in the world to do what they want" kind of sense.
This game took ♥♥♥♥ing forever to get past the tutorial which honestly I absolutely hated, and then it plopped me down in a place I don't care about and never told me how to leave,
just that I should take a side in this boring plot line that I had no reason to be invested in.
Okay great, an unlikable character is stuck in coldharbor with Molag Bol and I gotta stop him from doing something with an anchor... What does that have to do with the war? Do I really have to join a side and do chores for them to progress?
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BUSY WORK?!
well if you want something designed to be easy and fun.
suggest playing kid games like toontown.v160 spellsword (nightblade)
v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
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✭✭F2P_savior_of_ESO wrote: »Why can't MMORPG's just be easy and fun? Not easy in a gameplay sense but easy in a "just let them loose in the world to do what they want" kind of sense.
This game took ♥♥♥♥ing forever to get past the tutorial which honestly I absolutely hated, and then it plopped me down in a place I don't care about and never told me how to leave,
just that I should take a side in this boring plot line that I had no reason to be invested in.
Okay great, an unlikable character is stuck in coldharbor with Molag Bol and I gotta stop him from doing something with an anchor... What does that have to do with the war? Do I really have to join a side and do chores for them to progress?
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BUSY WORK?!
You can bypass 99% of the content.
The easiest way to get out of a zone is to join a guild, then open the roster and port to a player. If you want access to a variety of zones quickly and easily, just go down the roster and port to every player that's in a different area.
At level 10, jump into the war and do the newbie quest. Get the alliance speed skill. Go to imperial city and grind to CP 160. Use your stones to buy stuff that sells well, like Hakeijo. Use the gold for gear.
I don't know if you have to complete the main story quest to level CP, but you do not have to finish the mage or fighter guild quest lines. You will need to ride through a bunch of zones and grab at least the non-delve skyshard. Also, books if you are going to use magicka.
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