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Which set gear to go for? stamDK DPS

BlanketFort
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Top of the morning to you, good sir/Madame,


I'm running a Redguard Stamina Dragonknight, Dualwield and Bow.
CP 163 (or something). I PvE and never, ever, do PvP.

I'll just post my abilities, for more info:

Dual wield:
-blood craze
-bloodthirst
-Venomous claw
-evil hunter
-steel tornadoe

Bow:
-endless hail
-poison injection
-noxious breath
-green dragon's blood
-igneous weapons

For those who will tell me to get vigor and caltrops: I can't. PvP makes me aggressive which is why I VEHEMENTLY refuse to even get those skills (since I have to PvP for it). I know they are waaaay better, but I just can't do PvP. This is a serious issue and I would appreciate it if no one would force it down my throat.

With all the new sets out, I was wondering what would be a good set to get, that is not exclusive to vet content (because hardly anyone will run vet content with my CP, you know it, I know it, they know it).

I was thinking, grind for a set that I can use until I am of high enough CP to be taken for rides in vet dungeons.

I have, currently, Skoria Helm (that needs to be replaced as it's 130cp, but that'll come much much later) and Velidreth shoulders (150cp). I'd like to keep both, if possible. I like the extra health I get (I don't really have much, just short of 17k) and the weapon damage from Velidreth. I'd very much prefer to leave helm and shoulders untouched, as I will eventually be going for monster helm sets, anyway.

I was thinking, 5 PC armour and a set of jewellery.
BuT I'd need your guidance, lovely people from the forums, as to which pre-vet set to get so I don't waste much of my time farming the wrong gear :)

At the moment, I'm wearing a mix and match of Leki, Red Mountain, Sithi's rings and an Endurance something. As you can tell, I am quite more than overwhelmed by the options available and researching on my own only made it worse :-/


PS: I have been farming for spriggan's and already got 3/5 pcs. But I'm not confident that this is the right way to go? Perhaps someone could help me out with suggestions?

Edited by BlanketFort on 20 October 2016 09:21

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  • AtmaDarkwolf
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    Might be late to convo, but as a TBS+Spriggians user (with kra'gh or veli as monster set depending what I feel like wearing) I am NOT that far behind the 'typical' end-game maelstrom user (Not considering those who somehow manage to barswap/animatecancel/juggle 300 dots between each flurry) -IE: min 25k, upwards of 35k dps in trails.

    This is WITH the overpen (I know with leviathan weapons/jewels I can do more in trail environments) so don't keep listing to people tell you spriggans is 'crap'

    Sure there is better, but being that spriggians is overland, (IE u can farm it solo, in group, when you want, etc) and isn't THAT rare (Ignore ppl trying to get 500k for the weapons) and sprig's WILL out preform levi in solo/un-optimal groups. (IE the group isn't running NMB+Sunderflame+Alkosh+etc) which, contrary to what many say, is RARE to have, even in trail groups, except those vet runners who pretty much refuse anyone who isn't EXACTLY what they expect (IE top of the top)

    So tbs + sprig's will defiantly be something that you can obtain yourself AND even after u get levi, max out cp, get better gear, will still have use later as needed.
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  • acw37162
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    Blake,

    If you farming spriggans it's actually a really nice set for PVE. Not to disageee with the second post but if your running in coordinated dungeon and trail groups you Amy get to the point where spriggans is worthless.

    Chances are you not there is required a lot of coordination and pre planned gear choices.

    You would need the following;

    Infused crusher enchant
    Night Mothers Gaze
    Sunder Flame
    Sharpened weapons
    And an 2 people keeping Alkosh debuff up 24-7

    At that point not only is spriggans not very good sharpened is actually outclassed by Precise.

    Spriggans is an awesome choice.

    Also, regarding vigor and caltrops.

    It will take awhile but port into a campaign your side owns, but a bunch of wall repair kits run around and repair keep walls. It slow boring and almost painful but after awhile you will have vigor which until they change stamina healing is a must.
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  • melek-taus
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    First off the Spriggan set is mainly meant for PVP. You will lack in PVE/ dungeons if you use it.

    I myself am using a similar build to Alcast his Venom PVE build. I suggest you use his build as a template and base your build on this.

    http://alcasthq.com/venom/

    If you to not have access to Twice Born Star you could use Viper or Hundings Rage medium divines. If no Vicious Serpent then Agility for jewelry (try Robust if not then Healthy as it's cheaper) and Night Mothers Gaze head and weapons. You can then keep the Velidreth shoulder but you will lose on the crit bonus which is better for PVE. The one piece of Skoria has not real benefit in a Stam DK PVE build.
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  • BlanketFort
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    @melek-taus I thought that extra physical penetration from spriggan's was a good bonus, esp since bosses now have buffed up resistances. Could you please further elaborate on why it is not good for PvE? :)

    cant farm VO, because of my low CP (who would want to invite a 160 CP player into Hel Ra? Not my guildies, for sure). I'd rather then get agility jewellery, I guess. I got two rings, already, but no necklace. And they're all Blue :-/ but VO is a set I will DEFINITELY want to have when I grow up!

    I'll consider your advice on the shoulders and helm but I do not think I'll be replacing skoria and Velidreth for the simple fact that I cannot afford to Purple out more gear, only to have them replaced. And, if I get lucky with the skoria shoulders, then all is well until I have to farm vet CoA for a new helm.

    Again, this is meant to be temporary. Something to help get me from 160 cp to 400cp as efficiently as possible and doesn't take months to farm for

    Between Viper's and Hundings, which would be better? (I just realised, I don't have enough trait researched nor can I afford the mats and cost of having hundings crafted, why am I so poor in the game haha!)

    Edited by BlanketFort on 20 October 2016 10:16
  • BlanketFort
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    And I just cannot afford the mats and cost of an expensive crafted set like TBS :(
    And I don't have plenty of play time, either. So I guess I'd rather farm a set, at least I still get to play while grinding for it.
  • melek-taus
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    @BlanketFort In most cases your group's armor penetration is high enough to make Spriggan worthless. Maybe If you hit end game and get a steady group to play with then you can have a real job in the group and use this but still I the penetration will be useless due to buffs etc etc.
    Until then and even then I'd say it's useless unless you only play solo like VMA.

    As you cannot afford purple gear I suggest you farm during the Witches event in Bankorai as you can make a lot of money and get a lot of gear to destruct. During the event you will also lvl up CP very fast. Within a week you should be able to get a enough money by farming a hour a day. At least this is what I do, and I made over 500k within a week by farming bosses and dark anchors an hour a day.
    Purple gear is the minimum you should be using and usually guildies would be able to help with this.

    The Alcast build I suggested is one of the best PVE guilds for solo and group play. I really would suggest you use a similar build until you reach Vicious Serpent. Using different sets will make sure you lack in DPS
    Edited by melek-taus on 20 October 2016 10:30
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  • BlanketFort
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    @melek-taus
    I really appreciate all your input into this :)

    As for the farming and grinding for gold, while a perfectly simple and easy plan, is not something I can do. I just don't have enough play time and it's a rather waste of my little time to spend it on grinding for gold. But a very eligible and direct way, definitely! So thanks :)

    I did look into the build (I think I've come across it before) and it looks fun, if can tweak the skills a bit. and thanks for sharing the link.

    I guess I'll just have to farm vipers 5pc armour set, as it's the only set I can get that doesn't require Tons of gold and tons of mats for crafted TBS.
    or leviathan, if getting into CoH is not too time-consuming (like being kicked because of low cp). And 3pc agility. Not sure what to do with weapons but I'm sure I'll figure something out.

    Once again, thank you! I think I'm on a better track now than an hour or two ago :)
  • RajinPVP
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    Leviathan is definitly better than tbs. krag is also a very good monsters set that will work with your CP. Skoria is strong the only problem is it wont benefit from your CP. 2x krag , 5x levi set, 3x vo, 2x vma sharp dagger, infused vma bow might be ideal in group/trials dungeons and 5x levi , 5x vo , 2x krag for vMA dungeon.
  • BlanketFort
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    @b4nn3d7337
    Could you explain why skoria will not benefit from my CP? especially since CP will increase over time, anyway, as I play. im sure I'm missing some logic behind that statement, would be glad if you could explain why :smiley:

    Those are all nice sets (vMA weapons and VO and Kragh Helm), nice sets that i cannot farm for :/ it's behind vet content, is it not? Unless Kragh helm also drops in normal?
  • Asmael
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    b4nn3d7337 wrote: »
    Leviathan is definitly better than tbs. krag is also a very good monsters set that will work with your CP. Skoria is strong the only problem is it wont benefit from your CP. 2x krag , 5x levi set, 3x vo, 2x vma sharp dagger, infused vma bow might be ideal in group/trials dungeons and 5x levi , 5x vo , 2x krag for vMA dungeon.

    Mother Sorrow (magicka equivalent of Leviathan) has potential, because magicka builds are crit chance hungry compared to stamina.

    Leviathan is not, as even 5 TBS / 5 VO and maelstrom daggers will already get you over 80%~ crit chance on your DW bar as a Khajiit, that's not counting the extra HP from TBS which, even if it was outperformed by Leviathan by a mere 1% (it doesn't), would be reason enough to stick to TBS.

    Infused vs Precise vs Sharpened bow has already been tested, and Sharpened came out as the clear winner, pulling similar numbers on Endless Hail, but also increasing the damage of other bow abilities.

    I personally tested Skoria on stam DK back then, and definitely not looking back, the numbers are extremely underwhelming on a stamina spec, the recent buff it got with 1T isn't changing anything to it.
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  • BlanketFort
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    Asmael wrote: »
    b4nn3d7337 wrote: »
    Leviathan is definitly better than tbs. krag is also a very good monsters set that will work with your CP. Skoria is strong the only problem is it wont benefit from your CP. 2x krag , 5x levi set, 3x vo, 2x vma sharp dagger, infused vma bow might be ideal in group/trials dungeons and 5x levi , 5x vo , 2x krag for vMA dungeon.

    Mother Sorrow (magicka equivalent of Leviathan) has potential, because magicka builds are crit chance hungry compared to stamina.

    Leviathan is not, as even 5 TBS / 5 VO and maelstrom daggers will already get you over 80%~ crit chance on your DW bar as a Khajiit, that's not counting the extra HP from TBS which, even if it was outperformed by Leviathan by a mere 1% (it doesn't), would be reason enough to stick to TBS.

    Infused vs Precise vs Sharpened bow has already been tested, and Sharpened came out as the clear winner, pulling similar numbers on Endless Hail, but also increasing the damage of other bow abilities.

    I personally tested Skoria on stam DK back then, and definitely not looking back, the numbers are extremely underwhelming on a stamina spec, the recent buff it got with 1T isn't changing anything to it.

    Hey, thanks for joining in!

    I'm curious about your statement, regarding crit chance on leviathan. I run a mix and match gear set and I'm already on 68% crit chance on my DW bar (sharpened, not precise :wink:). Less (around 50% or something) on my bow bar but is it that important if most of my dots and spammable come from my dual wielding bar, anyway? (I also read somewhere that the dots crit chance are based on the weapon it was cast with, and not active bar. Or maybe I am mistaken). If I am going to get so much crit chance, anyway, then I'd rather get TBS, when I'm fully grown-up, and get The Shadow as a second Mundus.

    i'd like to ask you, which set you would suggest I get while I gain more CP and wait until I can afford TBS, farm VO set pieces, and Get vMA weapons (those are stuff I want to get much later, for the moment, I need a decent set that can get me through content when I am finally high enough for players to take through vet dungeons) It'd be awesome if it came from a non-vet, non-PvP content.

    Oh and lastly, I didn't quite understand your comment on Skoria (perhaps it's my English), did you say they were bad? Or that you ditched them?
  • melek-taus
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    Skoria is not really meant for Stam users and has no real benefit for Stam builds.

    I think it would be easier to know how much materials you have and if you have enough gold to purchase a set from the guild stores. I'ts that everything is bound otherwise you could have gotten my old gear. I am still waiting for it to become unbound if ever.

    I suggest you try to farm materials and let someone make you a set of TBS Divine medium + Night Mothers Gaze head + dual sharpened Daggers or Axes and Sharpened Bow. If CP 160 is too much material then go 150 as this will still be better then what you have atm.
    You could buy a full set of Viper Sting Divine from guild stores instead of making the TBS but the DPS difference between Viper and TBS is quite some.

    As jewerly you could use 3x purple Leki robust jewerly. Is cheap atm and a good alternative to Agility. It gives weapon dmg + stamina. Or you could go with Viper jewerly if you do not use viper sting set or combine it with TBS. Choices enought but it all depends on your wallet.

    (I would also suggest you check your guild bank, most guilds offer basic gear/ sets for their members).

    BTW what kind of gear are you already using? Weapons, armor and jewerly. Maybe it's possible to add some gear to make it a bit cheaper.



    Edited by melek-taus on 20 October 2016 14:53
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  • bellanca6561n
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    Your spelling of, tornado, gave me Dan Quail flashbacks.

    Sorry....terrible joke.

    Love the advice because I too am looking to make one of my DKs into something more contemporary.
  • Swomp23
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    Hi @BlanketFort !
    I'm exactly in your situation right now. Stam DK, and should hit CP160 tonight. I've thought a lot about this, read MANY posts, even tried to start one (which didn't aggroed :/ ) and finally came to this conclusion :

    I will use all the keys that I have farmed so far (which is around 15-20.... DON'T LAUGH! :p ) to try and get a Kra'gh shoulder. Since I can't get monster helm yet me neither, and everyone agrees that this is the strongest 1-piece monster set for stam, that's what I'm gonna get.

    Secondly, my crafter should hit 6-trait research next monday or so, so I'm gonna make 5-pieces CP150 Hunding's rage (CP150 because I'm far from having enough mat to do CP160 stuff right now) that I will purple out. Since this is only CP150 gear, I think i will craft them with Training trait, to help me grind all those precious CPs. When I get enough mats for CP 160 gear, I will craft a new set with Divines, but will keep my Training set for grinding. CP160 gear will probably be TBS also.

    Finally, and that's where I hesitated the most, I will farm the Red Mountain set. http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Shadow+of+the+Red+Mountain+Set
    Basically, I hesitated between this and Leviathan, but since my base DPS isn't that high, I think that I will benifit greatly from the flat-dps increase from the proc of the RM that from the %-dps increase from the crit of Leviathan. Additionnally, and maybe even more important, it will be easier to farm since it's overland vs dungeon for the Leviathan set.

    So overall, I will have 5-Hundings, 5-Red Mountain, 1-Kra'gh and 1-orphan. Thinking about it, I will craft 6 Hunding's rage, so when I switch to bow, I will still have 5-pieces bonus.
    Edited by Swomp23 on 20 October 2016 15:45
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  • BlanketFort
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    @melek-taus
    I'll give you a full run-down of my gear and stats, later when I get home. I am grateful for you giving this time and I should only reply in kind with as much info as possible.


    @bellanca6561n
    Haha! Hop along, stranger! The discussion is short, but I feel like its a gold mine of information!
  • BlanketFort
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    @Swomp23
    Wow, it seems like you really know what to do :D
    I, also, initially farmed RM (and I've got 2 purples already!) because of that proc, also for the same reasons (my wep dmg on my DW bar was at 1.8k unbuffed) until a guildie told me to farm for spriggan's, instead. Apparently not a good idea and that guildie is going to get Used Bait later on, for bad advice and time wasted haha! And true, RM is easier to farm than dungeon sets.

    I wish I could craft Hundings and then only have to worry about jewellery and weapon sets, but alas, I've only got 5 traits (max) on maybe 4 pieces (Max). I lagged behind with my research (all those damned vacations! XD). And I so want to craft it myself (instead of asking someone) because of the motif. If I have to wear armour for the next hundred CPs, it better be something that, in my eyes, looks damn good! :smiley:

    Will crafting 150cp gear impact overall stats that much? just worried that the minor difference might affect DPS in dungeons, and we all know how people are so keen on how fast you can bring things down (I haven't been called-out, yet, on my average skills and stats, and I don't really intend to hear the beginning of it) :-/ but if that is not the case, then huzzah! It's a solution, at least! (Even though it is not TBS).

    When i tried to research this all on my own, i only ended up getting overwhelmed. It was like "oh that set sounds good" and then "but that other set sounds good, too" and on and on it went. The main problem being: As if I have a clue what good is haha! I've only recently started to really look into my gear and was just running around in crafted ashens grip and night's silence before. At least (and this is my only saving grace) they were all divines and all my weapons were sharpened.

    Gone are the days that I would just slap on whatever gear I found.
  • Swomp23
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    @BlanketFort
    Yeah I do tend to overthink things a bit too much... :p

    I based my choice for RM on this post. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/283129/red-mountain-new-stam-dps-meta/p1

    Honestly, the guy got a lot of flaming and bashing because he proposed the set as the new BiS for end-game content, which apparently is not, but it seems to point out that below 40k DPS (which I'm probably very far from... god I wish we had add-ons on console) RM outperforms TBS in non-trial environment.

    As for CP150 gear, I don't really care for now. The hardest content we do at the moment is normal dungeons, and we can definitely pull out ok numbers with CP150 armour. However, I will probably re-craft the weapons to CP160 as soon as I have the mats. The only difference CP160 armour will do vs CP150 armour, is to give us a little more survivability... I think it doesn't affect Divines %.

    As for asking someone else to craft your armour, I wouldn't be too afraid about the looks. Most of the time, high-end crafters are high-lvl that don't care to spend 20k-30k gold on a motif FOR A SINGLE PIECE, like the Dark Brotherhood or something. So, if you can give him the mats, or some gold to cover it up, they can probably craft WAY better-looking gear than what you are currently able. As for myself, I bought the game when the Imperial edition was the same price than the normal game, so I can convert about any piece to Imperial style. It's looking pretty damn nice, except for the stupid medium helm, which looks like a kid's hat with pink wings... sigh
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  • RajinPVP
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    If your going for proc sets then red mountain+viper+krag i guess can pull some decent to monster dps ..
  • kylewwefan
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    Swap out bloodthirst for rearming trap. All Medium TBS is great or NM or Hundings.

    Sharpened legendary weapons are what you really need right now that you've hit CP160.

    Your real Bread n Butter attack right now is that heavy attack/Venom Claw/combo. For 4 man dungeons, purple 150 Hundings armor with purple enchants is still great. Weapon damage enchants on jewelry.

    I've no idea what monster sets are good right now. I still use skoria. It doesn't hit hard on stam class, crits like 9k. Veledreth hits a little harder when the little green balls actually hit something and don't go harmlessly rolling off.
  • Swomp23
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    Thx for the tip! What enchants should we put on weapons? Fire, poison, weapon dmg, other???
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  • BlanketFort
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    @Swomp23
    I read the whole darn thread. My nose is bleeding now, too. But highly interesting! I think it's what all be going for, too. It's easy to get and I will only need 3 pcs. I'll slot in Agility jewellery. As for weapons, I'm thinking of just going with my Endurance Daggers and Bow and run another Endurance armour piece :) that sounds feasible. I'll definitely keep it noted!

    You're right about crafting, but I am actually finding the Grim Harlequin motif not bad at all and that's what I wanted it crafted in :D
    I used to convert everything into imperial, but after some time I got tired of seeing my Imperialistic back :lol:

    @melek-taus
    Can't log in game so I'll just have to give you armour and stats off memory :-/ I hope it'll suffice.

    DW wep dmg 2.5k unbuffed
    Bow wep dmg 2.1k unbuffed
    Health: 17k (too low) buffed
    Stamina: 31-32k buffed
    Stamina regen: 876 (too low) I heavy weave for some stamina (Redguard passive) to make up for it in some way
    DW crit: 69%
    Bow crit: 48%
    Crit dmg: 10% (far as I know)

    Head: Valkyn
    Shoulders: Velidreth
    Chest: Leki
    Waist: Red Mountain
    Legs: Red Mountain
    Hands: Leki
    Feet: Leki

    Neck: Leki
    Ring: Sithi
    Ring: Sithi

    Most of my wep dmg comes from wep dmg enchants on both Sithi's rings and 2pc Red Mountain. Leki, too, I think.

    DW: both Endurance, sharpened
    Bow: Endurance (I think?), sharpened

    I've only got about 12k gold but I might be able to sell some Yellow Mats for a total of 150k? But I hope I need less than 30k, I guess depending on how XB1 EU's economy is regarding the new sets (probably still expensive as it just came out on Tuesday).

    @melek-taus and @Swomp23 and @b4nn3d7337 I just wanted to thank you all for the constructive input! And thanks for explaining as much as you do :smile:
    I really like Kragh as a monster set (after reading up on it again) and I'm sure I'll get my arse moving to get it, as soon as I'm able! So silly of me to have thought Valkyn was cool. I realise that since magDK have more DoTs to proc it, it's probably more of a magicka build thing :disappointed:
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    And I just cannot afford the mats and cost of an expensive crafted set like TBS :(
    And I don't have plenty of play time, either. So I guess I'd rather farm a set, at least I still get to play while grinding for it.

    You can farm mats to craft TBS in perfect traits faster than you can farm a set from a dungeon. Just sayin...
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    go with one weapon damage, one crushing.

    You can work on getting vigor slowly by doing the Cyrodil daily quests or following a Zerg around. I don't care for PvP at all, but the assault and support skill lines have some value.

  • BlanketFort
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    @kylewwefan so I'll just be spamming heavy attacks while waiting for DoTs to expire and re-apply? I uhm. It's hard enough to weave in the heavy attacks with the controller what with my hand not being what it should be.
    And once I can actually get Re-arming trap, I was going to swap out igneous weapons for it, if I get my wep dmg at a good level without the buff. Or perhaps you could explain to me the wisdom in spamming heavy attacks? :) I'm sure there's something to it that I don't know and I'm curious.

    All weapons are already sharpened (my only saving grace from this catastrophic build disaster) but let's not rush on legendary, yes? :lol: I'd rather Gold out the weapons and armour I'll eventually be using at endgame, if I ever get there. I'm not exactly made of gold, either haha!

    I'll keep wep dmg enchants in mind but.. what about Stam regen? I've only got 876 (I know, it's terrible and this is with wep dmg enchants on 2 rings) and I don't have enough CP invested in Stam ability cost reduction yet, to put the rest into mooncalf. And I noticed that I could use more regen in dungeons, what with all the sprinting and roll dodging. Single target combat = crazy good sustain with heavy weaves, I'm constantly at around over 75%. But sprinting (for some reason, most people I PUG with freaking run everywhere) and aoe trash takes a toll and I need ages to fill back up :-/
    Or is it not that important at all and I'm having a L2P issue?



    Edited by BlanketFort on 20 October 2016 19:07
  • kylewwefan
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    I'm pretty bad too. Lol! Legendary weapons make a monster difference though. Now that your at level it shall be your number 1 priority.
    I still use Hundings daggers with my 5 TBS. so they can last awhile and still have good use.

    This looks like a lot written out, but it's not much on the controller.

    Start charging heavy attack when walking up to mob. Once it hits instantly hit venom claw then tap block quick then light attack, venom claw.....repeat. It's about the same as a niteblade with surprise attack.
    The tapping block is the animation canceling thing. I don't care much for it, but allows you to get more hits in raising the DPS.

    Boss fights are similar, but setting a bunch of dots up first.
  • acw37162
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    A decent not impossible to get setup;

    5 Syvarras Scales (Farmed from Hews Bane)
    5 Swamp Raider/Night Mothers/Hundings

    Monster helm pick your favorite or follow th meta but any would work.

    I would craft your weapons so you can get sharpened without spending a ton or farming for weeks.

    Syvarras adds max stats comes in all three weights and has jewelry.

    It a not best in slot but it is more then adequate, fun, and not impossible to obtain.

    If you ever decide to PvP or have the money to buy it on the vendor Morag Tong pairs nicely with staam DK paasives.
  • Swomp23
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    @BlanketFort
    Hi there! So I finally hit CP 160 yesterday night and spent 4 hours farming Red Mountain. I got 1 purp ring, 1 blue ring and 1 blue necklace from dolmens (I basically farmed them until I had at least blue on 3 jewelry slots) I then went to a delve to farm boots and belt. I got Well-Fitted on boots (which I don't really like but farming delves is so boring) and Training belt, which is ok since I want to gring those CPs fast.
    As soon as I got my 5-piece set, I shot Poison Injection on a nearby mob and laughed my ash off so bad when I saw the 11k proc go off on a tic from the DOT :p


    For your skills and your rotation, I recommend you to inspire yourself from this build https://alcasthq.com/venom/
    Since I'm not rich enough to pop potions on cd like this guy, I made a couple adjustments on my skill loadout:

    Dual Wield Main Bar: (Exactly like @Alcast )
    - Venomous Claw
    - Steel tornado
    - Rapid Strikes
    - Rending Slashes
    - Flames of Oblivion (for the Major Savagery, plus the not-so-bad DOT)
    - Dawnbreaker (don't have flawless yet)

    Bow Back Bar:
    - Rearming Trap
    - Endless Hail (Seriously, best single-target DOT and it's AOE...)
    - Poison Injection
    - Igneous Weapons (for the Major Brutality buff)
    - Vigor (much needed IMO in pugs, since sometimes healer isn't very reliable. In addition of me sometimes standing stupidly in red... If you still refuse to farm Vigor, you can put Expert Hunter, or even Green Dragon Blood for a little survivability + stam regen)
    - Standard of Might (for long boss fights)

    For the rotation, since I don't have Maelstrom Weapons, I apply all my DOTs as soon as possible, then spam Rapid Strikes until I stop seeing arrows falling down from Endless Hail. Plus I weave light attacks between every ability. In addition of increasing you dps a little, you constantly gain Ultimate.

    On another note, before I started farming Red Mountain yesterday evening, I used my 11 keys on Undaunted chests. On my fifth key, I got Kra'gh shoulder (started to get a little nervous). I open my inventory to see which trait I got, when I see the DIVINES. I was so happy, I couldn't believe it after seeing all those people spending 100+ keys to get this. Then, after 1 minute or 2, I realized it was light armor. I died a little inside...
    Edited by Swomp23 on 21 October 2016 15:37
    XBox One - NA
  • BlanketFort
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    @Swomp23
    Hey! Congratulations on a seemingly fast grind for RM! And that 11k proc sounds neat :D glad to hear it's working out for you :) and that amazing luck on a perfect trait Shoulder (even though it's light armour)! I'm sure if you offer 100 more keys, RNGezus will look more kindly upon you. Why not go the full mile and sacrifice a goat while you're at it.

    Unfortunately, ESO wouldn't let me in last night so I passed on a night of grinding, but I'll have all day Saturday to farm my sets :D

    My rotation is almost exactly the same as yours.. Except I don't have re-arming trap yet (one more Rank to go!) and I opted for evil hunter to save skill points for crafting passives, will then re-spec later on in the game for FoO :) but thanks all the same for the tip!
    I have corrosive armour and am trying out the new DW ability, not the best DPS but it helps to keep me alive, since I only have GDB due to my stubborn refusal to PvP for vigor. Besides, what with me weaving in heavy attacks on every bloodthirst i can usually activate it very often. Not the most effective option but I do what i can until, perhaps, flawless dawnbreaker :-/
    I mostly PUG (like 99% of the time. PUG life for a filthy casual, the struggle is real) and I used Standard of might before, but the problem was that more often than not, the tank moves AWAY from the standard and it turned out to be a waste of Ultimate, so I adapted and opted for corrosive armour (and completely ignore Red circles! Never felt so badass!)
    And I have the health giving morphs of both rending slashes and rapid strikes to make up for the s*** heal that GDB gives. It's not much but every tic of HoT helps.

    On what platform and server do you play on, exactly? :)
    Edited by BlanketFort on 21 October 2016 14:55
  • Swomp23
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    Xbox NA. On my account name, I have a space between Swomp and 23.

    Actually, that goat sacrificing thing might be a great idea....
    XBox One - NA
  • bellanca6561n
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    @melek-taus
    I'll give you a full run-down of my gear and stats, later when I get home. I am grateful for you giving this time and I should only reply in kind with as much info as possible.


    @bellanca6561n
    Haha! Hop along, stranger! The discussion is short, but I feel like its a gold mine of information!

    And I had no intention of derailing it. But I too tend to overthink this sort of thing, even more so now that you can mine for specific sets. The dolman, for instance, dropping Sun pieces, had a crowd yesterday, all day, all night.

    Nice part was that one fellow was trying to put all those clattering skeletons into group.

    Meanwhile my Imperial, Erana, had to go hit level 50, damn her. Only her pocket mammoth, Rommel, was left unphased by this development.

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    In the end, I punted. Crafted five pieces of Twice Born Star for stats, Hundings for the other slots for now (she's pure stamina after all - just look at those arms!), Agility for the jewelry (modded enchantments), with only the TBS as the fixed set.

    The rest I'll simply adjust over time as I get some more, and more interesting, purple drops.

    In short, seek no single answer. There is none. No matter what you decide, somebody will disapprove...

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  • Swomp23
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    @bellanca6561n Damn I love this heavy armor motif for Imperials. Too bad I had to switch to medium armor to carry my a** around in dungeons. Imperial medium is pretty disappointing vs heavy. Particularly the helm.
    XBox One - NA
  • GideonxJura
    Man up, play pvp.
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