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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Stam sorc execute

Syiccal
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Do I need an execute ie reverse slice
If not this frees me up from using 2h

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  • Alucardo
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    Nah you don't need one. As long as you have enough burst to kill low health targets before they have a chance to heal you can do without Executioner/Reverse slice
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  • Brrrofski
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    You don't need it, no. For pvp it's nice though.

    For pve dual wield is way better.
  • Juhasow
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    As stam sorc You have poison injection and Implosion passive. Both are nice semi-executes so You dont need execute on bar but it's always good to have it. If You're running 2h i would reccomend to have execute because casting next dizyying swing takes time and enemie can heal himself in the meantime.
  • DephlaterMouse
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    If you use bow, and PVP in larger groups a useful set is the Kvatch Gladiator set. Bonus 1700ish weapon damage when you light or heavy attack someone below 25% health.

    It's fun spamming light attacks for 4 to 6k on people.
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  • Destyran
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    No you have saftey blanket that has 8% chance to instakill and it feels broken right now ;)
  • Izaki
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    Destyran wrote: »
    No you have saftey blanket that has 8% chance to instakill and it feels broken right now ;)

    6% chance ;)
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  • Cathexis
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    Destyran wrote: »
    No you have saftey blanket that has 8% chance to instakill and it feels broken right now ;)

    Significantly fewer standardized class buffs including no minor brutality, major/minor berserk, major/minor mending, major/minor vitality, or major/minor protection ;)
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  • susmitds
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    No you have saftey blanket that has 8% chance to instakill and it feels broken right now ;)

    Significantly fewer standardized class buffs including no minor brutality, major/minor berserk, major/minor mending, major/minor vitality, or major/minor protection ;)

    Well stamina sorcerers get a direct bonus of 7% extra damage from passives that can stack with other buffs.
  • Cathexis
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    No you have saftey blanket that has 8% chance to instakill and it feels broken right now ;)

    Significantly fewer standardized class buffs including no minor brutality, major/minor berserk, major/minor mending, major/minor vitality, or major/minor protection ;)

    Well stamina sorcerers get a direct bonus of 7% extra damage from passives that can stack with other buffs.

    Well every class gets unique passive benefits, some of which include but are not limited to passive ulti gen, healing bonuses, passive defense bonuses, and resource regen... Many of which stack with other buffs ;)
    Edited by Cathexis on 30 September 2016 19:27
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  • Minno
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    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.
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  • bantad87
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    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    Considering sorcerers are a type of mage in the elder scrolls lore, none of their class actives or passive should be compatible with stamina; but then it would be a stupid pigeon hole class. Sometimes you need to forsake common sense in the fantasy genre. That's why it's fantasy.
  • exeeter702
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    bantad87 wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    Considering sorcerers are a type of mage in the elder scrolls lore, none of their class actives or passive should be compatible with stamina; but then it would be a stupid pigeon hole class. Sometimes you need to forsake common sense in the fantasy genre. That's why it's fantasy.

    Actually this is nonsense, for as long as I can remember playing elder scrolls titles, deadra powered melee warriors are always a thing, from npcs to player builds.
  • Mojomonkeyman
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    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    Did you see the small rocks in the hurricane`s animation? Just because I conjure those with magic doesnt mean they wont hit your face phsysically....
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  • Minno
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    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    Did you see the small rocks in the hurricane`s animation? Just because I conjure those with magic doesnt mean they wont hit your face phsysically....

    It procs on all physical dmg. I understand why it was switched (it being a unique sorc passive). I'm highlighting the poor use of the English language to properly describe the change. It should have been something like "conjured focus" this way the name follows the intent; your toon having a chance to do extra dmg on low health with physical/lighting.

    But still, the passive was to allow lighting attacks a niche to excel past fire, and giving it to stamina further the divide between Magicka/stamina builds.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Before all the lore guys show up:

    Mages in TES are more physical than magical, they use magic to supplement their physical attacks etc... they are not typically wand carriers in TES.

    Next, if you're that low health and getting hit... well you're dead anyway. 90% of the time implosion blows up someone whom just took a lethal blow anyway.
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  • Alucardo
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    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    After having implosion proc on me twice in a row from the same person tonight I am leaning towards agreeing with you
  • Waffennacht
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    After having implosion proc on me twice in a row from the same person tonight I am leaning towards agreeing with you

    Wtf you doin sitting at 15% health or less?
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  • Alucardo
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    After having implosion proc on me twice in a row from the same person tonight I am leaning towards agreeing with you

    Wtf you doin sitting at 15% health or less?

    Getting beat on by 5 EP. I'm a tank, so it takes a while for my health to go down
  • Waffennacht
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    After having implosion proc on me twice in a row from the same person tonight I am leaning towards agreeing with you

    Wtf you doin sitting at 15% health or less?

    Getting beat on by 5 EP. I'm a tank, so it takes a while for my health to go down

    Awesome answer, though I gotta be like... come on man You're facing 5 dudes at once, you can't be upset you imploded lol
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  • Syiccal
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    I can't seem to get my stam sorc to work.
    I've always played stamplar or stamblade
    So have loads sets I'm missing vigor and dawnbreaker or sorc but not much else.
    Any tips for sets and a decent set up would be appreciated.
    I currently trying use eternal hunt and skirmisher on my stamplar and alchemist and viper on nb
    Would these cross over to sorc I also have plenty other sets
  • devilsTear
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    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    Did you see the small rocks in the hurricane`s animation? Just because I conjure those with magic doesnt mean they wont hit your face phsysically....

    Yes and when rocks hit my face I explode :sunglasses:
  • Izaki
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    No you have saftey blanket that has 8% chance to instakill and it feels broken right now ;)

    Significantly fewer standardized class buffs including no minor brutality, major/minor berserk, major/minor mending, major/minor vitality, or major/minor protection ;)

    But 8% more stamina and more weapon damage and more physical damage and some cost reduction and 20% stamina recovery and a third skill bar. Am I missing something?
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  • Izaki
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    devilsTear wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Counter point:

    As a stamina user, I think you should lose access to the implosion passive as a sorc. You have 3 weapon lines to gain executes so the options are available. but based on common sense, you should not be able to explode someone with physical dmg lol.

    Did you see the small rocks in the hurricane`s animation? Just because I conjure those with magic doesnt mean they wont hit your face phsysically....

    Yes and when rocks hit my face I explode :sunglasses:

    You don't explode you implode/disintegrate. ;)

    Also there only 1 weapon skill line that gives you access to an execute. Sorcs are good in PvE partially because they have a chance to deal some nice execute damage, unlike all other stamina builds except for stamina NB. Stamina Sorcerers have 5 usable skills (Crit Surge, Bound Armaments, Streak, Dark Deal and Negate) out of 15. And one of them is a toggle and another is an ultimate. Why you want to nerf them?
    Edited by Izaki on 2 October 2016 01:22
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