Dueling Improvement Idea

OneTrvth · September 2016

So far the Dueling System in the PTS is amazing however there are a few minute changes I would like to address. There is not a Truce Option, I have dueled people for 15 mins straight... What appeared to be an amazing spectacle of wits and demonstration of tactics turned into a monotonous bout of when is this going to end. My suggestion? Give the ability to the two parties to walk up to the flag and hold "f" or whatever button on console and select Truce.
I have seen a dueling area in Stormhaven and this could be in future content however I still would like to address this:
Create an In-Game Guild or Organization that creates a Bounty on a Player with the most consecutive victories. This would be a nice incentive within game for other players to participate and possible dethrone a player who has 20 victories and zero loses.

Eventually I'd love to see a Player-vs-Player Campaign that is the entirety of Tamriel. Once you select and enter the campaign it puts you into your Alliance's Starting Zone and you must venture out. You can attack anyone anywhere but at the cost "utilizing the Justice System Mechanics" you'll be given a different type of Bounty that only Players can take from you. Stipulations: You will not be able to disappear from a player (stealth) when you're in Cities, Delves, and Dungeons. This will allow Fair play for those (for some reason want a harder PvE experience) not to complain because they got ganked doing something. Safe Zones: A safe zone will be at any Bank, Mages Guild, Tranitus Shrines, and or Fighters Guild in any City.

Let me know what you guys think about the proposed suggestions in the comment section.

DaveMoeDee · September 2016

Any PvP should be independent of justice system and not connected to justice bounty. The justice system involves NPCs, which don't belong in dueling.

Nestor · September 2016

I have a feeling that a good number of Duels are going to be just an endless spam of skills as neither player can gain the advantage.

I also see a situation where Duelers will intentionally sand bag the fights just to prolong them and irritate everyone else (main reason why they should disable dueling in cities). And, I think you can only have 10 going at once, so, yea, its going to be a mess unless they either put a timer on the duels or offer some way for players to disengage. Although, you would think that both could just walk away.

OneTrvth · September 2016

@DaveMoeDee, I used the Justice System as an example of what it could be. Take the Bounty Hunter System in Runescape, a Player will be given a bounty that will gradually increase as long as he is alive.

@Nestor That's a Pretty good idea, someone I was talking to yesterday mentioned the World of Warcraft Duelling System. Using "/forgeit".

Abob · September 2016

Duels are endless cause of CP.

kaithuzar · September 2016

The Dueling META:
reverb bash spam, heal, reverb bash spam, heal, reverb bash spam, heal, reverb bash spam...
Meteor

Sigtric · September 2016

I thought you could already end a duel by just leaving the dueling area?

kaithuzar · September 2016

Sigtric wrote: »

I thought you could already end a duel by just leaving the dueling area?

You can but it counts as a lose/forfeit

Ganj · September 2016

Or just give option to see what your opponent wears. There should be "inspect" button or something like that. So you can simply say "no thanks" to those builds. Pointless and boring to duel with "cancer" builds. Reactive, malubeth, black rose etc.

Waffennacht · September 2016

If you get bored, walk out, boredom is a weapon. If you're opponent can't withstand the onslaught of boredom, you're victorious.

Happens in 1v1 Poker all the time.

Sandman929 · September 2016

There definitely needs to be a way to end a duel without incurring a loss for either person. It could be as simple as using the same method in place to start the duel. Invite to Duel, turns to Invite to Truce. But you're still going to have trolls refusing to end matches...so if you want out, you're going to have to eat a loss.
Any method that doesn't involve both parties consenting to end the fight will be used by some to end fights they were just about to lose.
And any method that does involve both parties consenting will be trolled. Either by refusing to end it, or by pretending to and trying to burst the other player down when they think the fight is being called off.

Waffennacht · September 2016

Sandman929 wrote: »

There definitely needs to be a way to end a duel without incurring a loss for either person. It could be as simple as using the same method in place to start the duel. Invite to Duel, turns to Invite to Truce. But you're still going to have trolls refusing to end matches...so if you want out, you're going to have to eat a loss.
Any method that doesn't involve both parties consenting to end the fight will be used by some to end fights they were just about to lose.
And any method that does involve both parties consenting will be trolled. Either by refusing to end it, or by pretending to and trying to burst the other player down when they think the fight is being called off.

This is true, and is true for mtg, poker, eso and many other competitions i participate (or did) in

OneTrvth · September 2016

Sorry it has taken me so long to reply I had to Adult and do my Husbandry Do's lmfao.
@Abob you're right and ZOS should implement a ROE (Rules of Engagement) or Duelling Options so terms like Potions, Food/Drinks, and or CP can be toggled.

@Ganj that is a good idea and but make it where the player can Hold "F" or the Player Interaction Button/ Key to sneak a peak at what the opponent or player is wearing.

In the spectrum of things I would love to see ESports take an interest into this game however, we need to have changes that could support that demand. In a sense beggars can not be choosers and we just got the "Dueling System" however we are the customers and what we want to see means a lot to the future of this Game.

OneTrvth · September 2016

bump

Cogo · September 2016

Here is an idea. Don't put the dueling in ESO. It's pathetic compared to the Cyrodiil warfare.