Crit damage vs impen

AGrz5585 · August 2016

Is it possible to get your crit damage high enough to negate or almost negate the impen trait plus cp tree?

Minno · August 2016

AGrz5585 wrote: »

Is it possible to get your crit damage high enough to negate or almost negate the impen trait plus cp tree?

If I remember correctly, @Crown had a spreadsheet showing all the permutations for crit. Laymen terms says it's possible but only if you can achieve 50% crit chance, and use shadow stone with stacking crit dmg.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but that was my understanding.

Forestd16b14_ESO · August 2016

No 3300 negates all crit damage period. Or so the math says. Plus why? Damage in this game is already laughable over powered.

Minno · August 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

No 3300 negates all crit damage period. Or so the math says. Plus why? Damage in this game is already laughable over powered.

I think crowns math showed you could get 47% crit dmg if attacker had crit dmg stacked and the enemy had full impen stacked. This number was perviously 19.7% if the attacker had no crit dmg.

If the defender uses no impen, they can take up to 70% crit dmg.

Also, it was determined your armor is calculated first then the critical strikes mitigation. So Armor > crit resistance, meaning if you can't reduce your dmg taken, all the impen in the world won't protect you.

leepalmer95 · August 2016

Doesn't everyone have a base 50% crit dmg? 60% for templar and nb's?

250 crist resist reduces crit dmg by 3.7%

Even if someone has 3300 crit resistance which is 50% crit reduction, crits will still hit harder than non crits. A nb with a few points into crit cp will still hit like 22-25% harder on crits.

On my nb with trap beast and shadow my crit modifier is 99% bonus.

50% base, 10% nb passive, 15% cp, 12% minor force, 12% shadow

Even if someone has 3300 impen i'm going to hit them for 49% more dmg on crits.

Minno · August 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Doesn't everyone have a base 50% crit dmg? 60% for templar and nb's?

250 crist resist reduces crit dmg by 3.7%

Even if someone has 3300 crit resistance which is 50% crit reduction, crits will still hit harder than non crits. A nb with a few points into crit cp will still hit like 22-25% harder on crits.

On my nb with trap beast and shadow my crit modifier is 99% bonus.

50% base, 10% nb passive, 15% cp, 12% minor force, 12% shadow

Even if someone has 3300 impen i'm going to hit them for 49% more dmg on crits.

Yea this is my understanding as well. Impen is great, but it's not a one trick pony.

Also damn your 99% crit dmg lol

cschwingeb14_ESO · August 2016

If you use armor of the construct, and transmutation, it's possible. Not really worth doing that way though

Crown · August 2016

Here: http://goo.gl/9XoCgI