Engine guardian and blackrose will circumvent the lack of stamina recovery while blocking. Fasalla Jewelry and s/b on both bars will ensure your tanking has a purpose.

Brrrofski wrote: »

X_NOVIA_X wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Engine guardian and blackrose will circumvent the lack of stamina recovery while blocking. Fasalla Jewelry and s/b on both bars will ensure your tanking has a purpose.

Wouldn't armor master or histbark be better? Looking more for crafted sets I think.

The key to perma blocking is about resource management. Black rose is amazing for it. Armor master and hist bark do nothing for it. Hist bark is a bad set for tanking in general. The 5 piece is shuffle.

^ yep.

The issue with tanking in PvP is that good players will ignore you when they realize you cannot kill them. You can have a fun time in a group, tho. Especially as a mDK, you can at least use talons to root+debuff.

X_NOVIA_X wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Engine guardian and blackrose will circumvent the lack of stamina recovery while blocking. Fasalla Jewelry and s/b on both bars will ensure your tanking has a purpose.

Wouldn't armor master or histbark be better? Looking more for crafted sets I think.

No. Being a hard to kill is not enough in PvP. Eventually they will kill you, but you won't kill them. You have to be tanking for a group that kills the enemy players while you are CCing, debuffing and being so annoying that they can't bear not to attack you. Fasalla's will heal debuff all those players and make them go down faster.

X_NOVIA_X wrote: »

I'm aiming to look like those tanks you see in Pvp with 30 people stomping on him for over a minute and still not breaking a sweat.

In both those example videos, watch the other players. They are not working together. In the first, the sorc is just spamming Mage's Wrath, and in the second you have a templar jesus beaming a full health tank non-stop. So set your expectations accordingly: if you come across 3 or 4 good players working together, you are going down.

But it can be a lot of fun. Most of the DC players I know are already built pretty tanky so she doesn't have a real purpose. The only time I take my tank out is for trolls and lols.

I know I will hit like a wet noodle, I have a stamplar with near 4700 wep damage, I run with my guild and the character would be for distractions while others dps. It's mainly just something for me to play around with and have fun, always run into certain guys whom everybody knows their name because it takes a mini Zerg to take them down. Just would like to be able to troll once in a while because pure dps gets boring sometimes. Would like to be able to just walk into a breach and talons everyone and just overall run it as support, as long as I can handle that I'd be fine without doing much damage. Have fully golded nightblade and Templar and I have a ton of Temp alloy and thousands of ingots burning a hole in my bank so I decided to go for it. Anybody know how long approximately to get from 1-50 grinding with ring of Mara and XP scrolls in the public dungeons in wrothgar? I haven't leveled a new guy in like 9 months!

NBrookus wrote: »

X_NOVIA_X wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Engine guardian and blackrose will circumvent the lack of stamina recovery while blocking. Fasalla Jewelry and s/b on both bars will ensure your tanking has a purpose.

Wouldn't armor master or histbark be better? Looking more for crafted sets I think.

No. Being a hard to kill is not enough in PvP. Eventually they will kill you, but you won't kill them. You have to be tanking for a group that kills the enemy players while you are CCing, debuffing and being so annoying that they can't bear not to attack you. Fasalla's will heal debuff all those players and make them go down faster.

X_NOVIA_X wrote: »

I'm aiming to look like those tanks you see in Pvp with 30 people stomping on him for over a minute and still not breaking a sweat.

In both those example videos, watch the other players. They are not working together. In the first, the sorc is just spamming Mage's Wrath, and in the second you have a templar jesus beaming a full health tank non-stop. So set your expectations accordingly: if you come across 3 or 4 good players working together, you are going down.

But it can be a lot of fun. Most of the DC players I know are already built pretty tanky so she doesn't have a real purpose. The only time I take my tank out is for trolls and lols.

As for the 3-4 guys who work together that's fine with me, I enjoy a challenge, but again I don't run alone, it would be a good distraction if they focused on me while my guiildies were free to dps. I have high expectations but I'm not stupid, I know I won't be invincible, but seemingly on consoles a lot of casual Pvpers don't realize that while they try to womp on me my squad will melt them. When my team runs into things like this were smart enough to ignore that player and dps any healers and others, leaving the tank for last.

X_NOVIA_X wrote: »

I know I will hit like a wet noodle, I have a stamplar with near 4700 wep damage, I run with my guild and the character would be for distractions while others dps. It's mainly just something for me to play around with and have fun, always run into certain guys whom everybody knows their name because it takes a mini Zerg to take them down. Just would like to be able to troll once in a while because pure dps gets boring sometimes. Would like to be able to just walk into a breach and talons everyone and just overall run it as support, as long as I can handle that I'd be fine without doing much damage. Have fully golded nightblade and Templar and I have a ton of Temp alloy and thousands of ingots burning a hole in my bank so I decided to go for it. Anybody know how long approximately to get from 1-50 grinding with ring of Mara and XP scrolls in the public dungeons in wrothgar? I haven't leveled a new guy in like 9 months!

What setup are you using to get 4700 WD? I assume that is also buffed?

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texassob wrote: »

X_NOVIA_X wrote: »

I know I will hit like a wet noodle, I have a stamplar with near 4700 wep damage, I run with my guild and the character would be for distractions while others dps. It's mainly just something for me to play around with and have fun, always run into certain guys whom everybody knows their name because it takes a mini Zerg to take them down. Just would like to be able to troll once in a while because pure dps gets boring sometimes. Would like to be able to just walk into a breach and talons everyone and just overall run it as support, as long as I can handle that I'd be fine without doing much damage. Have fully golded nightblade and Templar and I have a ton of Temp alloy and thousands of ingots burning a hole in my bank so I decided to go for it. Anybody know how long approximately to get from 1-50 grinding with ring of Mara and XP scrolls in the public dungeons in wrothgar? I haven't leveled a new guy in like 9 months!

What setup are you using to get 4700 WD? I assume that is also buffed?

I'm a stamplar so keep in mind, I sacrifice a lot of regen for pure weapon damage glyphs because I catch so many bodies in pve and Pvp to where repentance will fill me back to 32k stamina almost always. I rock all gold agilty jewlerly Molag kena hundings, and night mothers. And yes that's buffed (only rally) and I'm at 4700. Pm me if you'd like more details or have any questions. I enjoy discussing my builds, it's hard to theorycraft on console due to no PTS, so I kind of usually built this stamplar by trial and error!

So basically you want to be a PvP troll?


Looks fun actually. ...but after a while I would get bored and not even try to attack you anymore.

Vampire. Use mist form. Watch most randoms spam AOE thinking you just cloaked, or when you have under 50% health I dodge roll through their group then try to mist form away.

I tend to take up to 10 people with me in large group battles for up to 2 minutes before either I finally die, or my team wipes the rest of their group and moves in to finish them off.

Imperial Max health blazing shield templar tank is so fun

Brrrofski wrote: »

X_NOVIA_X wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Engine guardian and blackrose will circumvent the lack of stamina recovery while blocking. Fasalla Jewelry and s/b on both bars will ensure your tanking has a purpose.

Wouldn't armor master or histbark be better? Looking more for crafted sets I think.

The key to perma blocking is about resource management. Black rose is amazing for it. Armor master and hist bark do nothing for it. Hist bark is a bad set for tanking in general. The 5 piece is shuffle.

Black rose/Tava's
engine guardian/bloodspawn
Whatever 5 piece jewellery and sword and board combo to either make sustain easier or so your tanking has a purpose (i.e fassala)

Spec for big resource pools and then magica regen/cost reduction.

ya, but with 8 sturdy and block reduction jewelry + cp + s&b block is free, and you dont get crit when blocking, seems to me like crafting hist bark or armor master in sturdy is at this point stronger than black rose for a pure tank. not wasting tones of stam on shuffle/dropping block to cast it, isnt exactly useless. agree u need a debuff set like durocs bane or fasallas guile, so you do something more than just cluster scrubs together.