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Did health regen get nerfed recently?

Jade1986
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I am genuinely curious, because my health regen on this character I am using atm was at 2500 + last time I used her, and now its down to 1500.....
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    All regen pretty much got nerfed cause it was "broken" according to ZoS.
  • Jade1986
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    All regen pretty much got nerfed cause it was "broken" according to ZoS.

    Another blow to tanks : face desk :

    I am going to have to rethink my set choices and -everything- then.

    Not cool ZoS.
  • Baconlad
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    Zos changed the way the game calculates multiple % value increases to stats (or at least regen not sure if all of them) so we've seen decreases in regens. This is their way of dealing with the MASSIVE power creep implemented when they raised gear cap to v16 from v14. They've also done things like battle spirit to decrease our damage output...basically zos dropped the ball and have hopefully learned their lesson...
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    Zos changed the way the game calculates multiple % value increases to stats (or at least regen not sure if all of them) so we've seen decreases in regens. This is their way of dealing with the MASSIVE power creep implemented when they raised gear cap to v16 from v14. They've also done things like battle spirit to decrease our damage output...basically zos dropped the ball and have hopefully learned their lesson...

    If ZoS really wanted to stop this power creep they get rid of resources scaling with damage.
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    Did health regen get nerfed recently?

    Yes.
    Baconlad wrote: »
    Zos changed the way the game calculates multiple % value increases to stats (or at least regen not sure if all of them) so we've seen decreases in regens. This is their way of dealing with the MASSIVE power creep implemented when they raised gear cap to v16 from v14. They've also done things like battle spirit to decrease our damage output...basically zos dropped the ball and have hopefully learned their lesson...

    If ZoS really wanted to stop this power creep they get rid of resources scaling with damage.

    Yes.
    Edited by Cathexis on 21 August 2016 20:12
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  • Truewavesound
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    laced wrote: »
    I am genuinely curious, because my health regen on this character I am using atm was at 2500 + last time I used her, and now its down to 1500.....

    Races with Health regen bonuses got nerfed from 30% down to 20%.

    Because it was such a problem ><
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    Additionally: Certain racial passives were nurfed from 30 down to 20% (not sure if less)
  • Jade1986
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    laced wrote: »
    I am genuinely curious, because my health regen on this character I am using atm was at 2500 + last time I used her, and now its down to 1500.....

    Races with Health regen bonuses got nerfed from 30% down to 20%.

    Because it was such a problem ><

    Ugh......How in the smurf am I supposed to make a good regen guard tank now?! Any sets good for that?

    I used Orgnum Scales and Pelinal before / now, is there abetter set for that now?
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    Additionally: Certain racial passives were nurfed from 30 down to 20% (not sure if less)

    Is there an echo? (echo echo...)
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    laced wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    I am genuinely curious, because my health regen on this character I am using atm was at 2500 + last time I used her, and now its down to 1500.....

    Races with Health regen bonuses got nerfed from 30% down to 20%.

    Because it was such a problem ><

    Ugh......How in the smurf am I supposed to make a good regen guard tank now?! Any sets good for that?

    I used Orgnum Scales and Pelinal before / now, is there abetter set for that now?

    Why on EARTH? Would you use Pelinals with Orgnum's?! No point matching SP and WD if both are low as hell anyway...
  • Jade1986
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    laced wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    I am genuinely curious, because my health regen on this character I am using atm was at 2500 + last time I used her, and now its down to 1500.....

    Races with Health regen bonuses got nerfed from 30% down to 20%.

    Because it was such a problem ><

    Ugh......How in the smurf am I supposed to make a good regen guard tank now?! Any sets good for that?

    I used Orgnum Scales and Pelinal before / now, is there abetter set for that now?

    Why on EARTH? Would you use Pelinals with Orgnum's?! No point matching SP and WD if both are low as hell anyway...

    It worked really well before, doesnt anymore though, which is why I am asking , again, for advice. I was able to get my health regen to 4-5 k before, now I am lucky to get it up to 2. Which is why I am very very confused.
    Edited by Jade1986 on 22 August 2016 12:51
  • Truewavesound
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    laced wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    I am genuinely curious, because my health regen on this character I am using atm was at 2500 + last time I used her, and now its down to 1500.....

    Races with Health regen bonuses got nerfed from 30% down to 20%.

    Because it was such a problem ><

    Ugh......How in the smurf am I supposed to make a good regen guard tank now?! Any sets good for that?

    I used Orgnum Scales and Pelinal before / now, is there abetter set for that now?

    Why on EARTH? Would you use Pelinals with Orgnum's?! No point matching SP and WD if both are low as hell anyway...

    It worked really well before, doesnt anymore though, which is why I am asking , again, for advice. I was able to get my health regen to 4-5 k before, now I am lucky to get it up to 2. Which is why I am very very confused.

    I am happy to help but I am a little confused what Pelinal's was supposedly achieving. What were you using it for?

    Not being arsey, just confused. No health recovery and a useless 5p (when paired with non-weapon or spall-damage sets).

    Regen is now additive, afaik, which has meant lots of people have suffered regen losses across all stat regens. Also, the 10% racial passive loss is probably making a difference too.
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    laced wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    I am genuinely curious, because my health regen on this character I am using atm was at 2500 + last time I used her, and now its down to 1500.....

    Races with Health regen bonuses got nerfed from 30% down to 20%.

    Because it was such a problem ><

    Ugh......How in the smurf am I supposed to make a good regen guard tank now?! Any sets good for that?

    I used Orgnum Scales and Pelinal before / now, is there abetter set for that now?

    Why on EARTH? Would you use Pelinals with Orgnum's?! No point matching SP and WD if both are low as hell anyway...

    It worked really well before, doesnt anymore though, which is why I am asking , again, for advice. I was able to get my health regen to 4-5 k before, now I am lucky to get it up to 2. Which is why I am very very confused.

    I am happy to help but I am a little confused what Pelinal's was supposedly achieving. What were you using it for?

    Not being arsey, just confused. No health recovery and a useless 5p (when paired with non-weapon or spall-damage sets).

    Regen is now additive, afaik, which has meant lots of people have suffered regen losses across all stat regens. Also, the 10% racial passive loss is probably making a difference too.

    Oh FFS! LOL, said the wrong sets! Well , Orgnum was right, but I was using 4 pc White strakes retribution as well. Silly me. Sorry for the confusion.
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    This is the ZOS version of soft caps
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    laced wrote: »
    All regen pretty much got nerfed cause it was "broken" according to ZoS.

    Another blow to tanks : face desk :

    I am going to have to rethink my set choices and -everything- then.

    Not cool ZoS.

    yeah because tanks are not unkilleable enought lol. Tanks got nothing but buffed lately, 400 pvers crying about block cost reduction, and what we have now? magika builds permablocking, lol
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    All regen pretty much got nerfed cause it was "broken" according to ZoS.

    Another blow to tanks : face desk :

    I am going to have to rethink my set choices and -everything- then.

    Not cool ZoS.

    yeah because tanks are not unkilleable enought lol. Tanks got nothing but buffed lately, 400 pvers crying about block cost reduction, and what we have now? magika builds permablocking, lol

    OK how dense are you ? These so called "buffs" these past updates are nothing but nerfs in disguise. Only way to "perma-block" is to pool everything into block cost reduction. So that means good bye to infuse or impen good bye to recovery enchantments and good bye to a 100 green points while a sword and shield are equip and for what just to block for a few more seconds and that's with black rose.

    That is Wrobels idea of tanking just hiding behind a shield and doing nothing else.
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    All regen pretty much got nerfed cause it was "broken" according to ZoS.

    Another blow to tanks : face desk :

    I am going to have to rethink my set choices and -everything- then.

    Not cool ZoS.

    yeah because tanks are not unkilleable enought lol. Tanks got nothing but buffed lately, 400 pvers crying about block cost reduction, and what we have now? magika builds permablocking, lol

    They have been dps buffs, not tank buffs. Nerfing health regen for tanks is a huuuuuuuuuuuge nerf.
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    All regen pretty much got nerfed cause it was "broken" according to ZoS.

    Another blow to tanks : face desk :

    I am going to have to rethink my set choices and -everything- then.

    Not cool ZoS.

    yeah because tanks are not unkilleable enought lol. Tanks got nothing but buffed lately, 400 pvers crying about block cost reduction, and what we have now? magika builds permablocking, lol

    OK how dense are you ? These so called "buffs" these past updates are nothing but nerfs in disguise. Only way to "perma-block" is to pool everything into block cost reduction. So that means good bye to infuse or impen good bye to recovery enchantments and good bye to a 100 green points while a sword and shield are equip and for what just to block for a few more seconds and that's with black rose.

    That is Wrobels idea of tanking just hiding behind a shield and doing nothing else.

    Exactly, in PVP when I play my tank, I am pretty much the babysitter......OR WAS the baby sitter / guardian angel, and I enjoyed doing that, now though, my super defensive tank has turned into a squishy mess.....

    Imagine if people with 2 k stam regen woke up one day and only had 1 k stam regen, imagine the outrage. But since it is health regen, everyone is silent. Oh well, I dont mind reworking my class, but I am finding it hard atm, hence seeking advice.
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