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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Is there a problem with breaking free from fear?

LuminaLilly
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Even with 38k max stamina at full, you need to press LB+RB 3 or four times and you might break free from fear. Breaking from any other CC is easy but fear always had this stagnancy to it.
  • Solariken
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    Yep. Fear and Reverb Bash are the worst offenders for CC locking me. It's like they force you to let the animation finish before break free is allowed or something. Sucks balls to try to recover from those.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    I personally have issues with all CC's in high latency situations. Fear i believe gets a bad wrap because of its 4 second duration. Considering how many NB's are in pvp, it makes sense why this ability stands out. Once you lag or bug out, any cc could cost you your life.

    I think Console players could use another action to CC break. Why does it have to be Left and Right triggers to break CC when you cannot perform any other action while CC'd?

    I think CC breaking could easily be changed to R3 or even X. This would make it much easier.

    On the other hand, we need performance fixes in pvp to make pvp feel more responsive which would help this issue.

    Quick Tip: Hold left trigger and spam right trigger. Makes CC breaking very easy.
    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on 14 August 2016 03:32
    PS4 NA DC
  • Skinzz
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    Yeah i love running marathons before i can break free
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  •  Czirne
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    Its probaly problem with lag. Sometimes i break free fear immediately, sometimes i cant. I can not tell for sure is there is problem with fear itself or with lag.
    I believe in lagless Cyrodiil!
  • Draxys
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    Solariken wrote: »
    Yep. Fear and Reverb Bash are the worst offenders for CC locking me. It's like they force you to let the animation finish before break free is allowed or something. Sucks balls to try to recover from those.

    This seems to be what's happening. Your character is completely disabled for a second as soon as you are affected by fear. This happened, whether by accident or not, in 1.6 I think. It has not always been like this.
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  • Mac10murda
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    It's been broke since I started playing on console
  • Lava_Croft
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    Nothing particular to Fear. All CC is broken. All CC has been broken for a long time. ZOS is too busy filling up the Crown Store.
    Edited by Lava_Croft on 14 August 2016 09:51
  • Draxys
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Nothing particular to Fear. All CC is broken. All CC has been broken for a long time. ZOS is too busy filling up the Crown Store.

    This isn't the normal problem with breaking CC, you also have the issue with fear, but there is another one specifically with fear and I think drain from vampire skill line. Even if break free is working in that moment in general, fear will not let you break free until a second or so of the animation has happened.
    2013

    rip decibel
  • Armitas
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    Yep got to go through two animations before you are free. It's half the reason people hate fear so much. By the time you break free from it, the damage has already been done.
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Skinzz
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    Dawnbreaker of smiting is sometimes harder for me to break out of than fear.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • Lokey0024
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    Draining shot. I loathe thee
  • Makkir
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    NBs will tell you nothing is wrong.

    Kinda like fat people thinking a Grilled McChicken sandwich is good for you. Terrible analogy, but some fat lady just cut me off in traffic to pull into a drivethru and in still heated over it.
  • Makkir
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    Gotta be the only MMO that has a fear mechanic that doesnt break on dmg.....
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    It's deffinately bugged. Also the uppercut stun seems to do it for me.
  • Beardimus
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    Fear is the worst for it, only one like it for me the rest you can CC break. I half assumed that was intended and it had a different counter ha
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  • Omgwtfbbq321
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    I am guessing it has something to do with the running away animation. I can CC break (In off-peak pvp) almost instantly with all skills but Fear. When using Fear on others, I feel I have a lot more time to dump damage before they break than say if I CC someone with a Crystal shard.

    I have been on both sides of the table, and there is defiently something funny with fear. Other then that, all CCs are buggy in lag.
    My ping is higher than your resource recovery...
  • Master_Kas
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    There's problems breaking free from basiclly every CC in the game sometimes.
    EU | PC
  • newtinmpls
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    Once you lag or bug out, any cc could cost you your life. .

    yup (sigh)

    I have the phoenix set - get caught in fear/cc, die, auto-rez, am still caught and then promptly die again.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
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  • Lettigall
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    Almost all CC are broken. Soul tether, Incap strike, Dizzying swing, Dawnbreaker... To some of these abilities I have been on both sides- dealing and receiving unbreakable CC!
    Some men just want to watch the world burn... I just want a cold beer!
  • Dojohoda
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    The only thing to fear is fear itself

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    Might be joking in comments.
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  • Mojomonkeyman
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    There's problems breaking free from basiclly every CC in the game sometimes.

    Fear is especially bad this patch.

    I have a delay of 1-2 seconds minimum actually breaking fear after I pressed the break free button, even when all other playing conditions are perfect (early mornings). Combined with the Stamblade incap party going on, those 1-2 secs delay can very easily lead to death.

    That`s a bad combination for healthy pvp, which in my opinion has to be focused on with priority (compared to the other cc`s which have problems - i.e.: magnum shot into charge, or reverb).

    The inresponsiveness of breaking out of fear is the main reason i run 5k more hp this patch than last one.

    BR
    Koma Grey, Chocolate Thunder, Little Mojo, Dagoth Mojo & Mojomancy
  • reiverx
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    The animation from Fear is like something from a Scooby Doo cartoon.
  • Armitas
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    Yesterday it took me 3 seconds of spamming breakfree to get out of it while a zerg spammed CC buttons on me. A few months ago I broke the button of a brand new mouse just trying to break free in this game. The other anyoing thing is that break free has it's on animation cooldown before you can do something.
    Edited by Armitas on 17 August 2016 13:13
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • E-Zekiel
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    Seems spotty with fear relative to other CC breaks (stun, knockdown, or dodgerolling for immobilization). I have this issue too sometimes. I largely wish game companies would stop putting fear in MMO's though. Conan did it best, I think - "fear" was just a stun with a unique animation.
  • QuebraRegra
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    I personally have issues with all CC's in high latency situations. Fear i believe gets a bad wrap because of its 4 second duration. Considering how many NB's are in pvp, it makes sense why this ability stands out. Once you lag or bug out, any cc could cost you your life.

    I think Console players could use another action to CC break. Why does it have to be Left and Right triggers to break CC when you cannot perform any other action while CC'd?

    I think CC breaking could easily be changed to R3 or even X. This would make it much easier.

    On the other hand, we need performance fixes in pvp to make pvp feel more responsive which would help this issue.

    Quick Tip: Hold left trigger and spam right trigger. Makes CC breaking very easy.

    I'm going to awesome you, because you suggested a simple and effective idea. :)

    Why not just roll, to break out? Maybe ZOS will as a QT event to break out of CC next ;)
    Edited by QuebraRegra on 17 August 2016 18:49
  • Tankqull
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    There's problems breaking free from basiclly every CC in the game sometimes.

    from my PoV the problem seem to be tied to animations the character has to finish befor the breakfree animation can be started - as fear has one of the longest animations it seems to be especially prone to this behaviour...
    spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused

    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


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