I am watching 11 dps-ish specced players beat on 4 tanks.

Mac10murda · July 2016

When I go into a duel and they have maulbeth I just turn away from them so I don't have to worry about wasting my time fighting the set not the player

Ghost-Shot · July 2016

Mac10murda wrote: »

When I go into a duel and they have maulbeth I just turn away from them so I don't have to worry about wasting my time fighting the set not the player

That feeling when 1 mag DK kills 3 Malubeth Templars though...

RadioheadSh0t · July 2016

Docmandu wrote: »

Think part of why you see so many malutard cheese, is that many people are tired of the easy one-shot stam builds.. neither is very healthy for the game imho.

Getting 30k damage dumped on you in the time the game registers a CC break, isn't fun.
Beating on a tank for 5 hours without making a dent isn't fun either.

ESO isn't fun. Not anymore. Problems going unfixed for years, and the "fixes" they implement only break the game further (see: gap closers).

The game is effed.

Not to mention the CE problem. I'm currently enjoying a game that dealt with cheaters the right way. Banned them, and banned them every time they re-bought the game. Much better than banning people for cheating and then unbanning almost all of them.

Stratforge · July 2016

MisterBastahrd wrote: »

This thread is full of bad players who should feel bad. Just because your Kena set got slapped in the face by Malubeth doesn't make the Malubeth players bad. It makes you incompetent because you've been relying on gear instead of talent all this time.

The irony.

thankyourat · July 2016

Docmandu wrote: »

Think part of why you see so many malutard cheese, is that many people are tired of the easy one-shot stam builds.. neither is very healthy for the game imho.

Getting 30k damage dumped on you in the time the game registers a CC break, isn't fun.
Beating on a tank for 5 hours without making a dent isn't fun either.

Stratforge wrote: »

MisterBastahrd wrote: »

This thread is full of bad players who should feel bad. Just because your Kena set got slapped in the face by Malubeth doesn't make the Malubeth players bad. It makes you incompetent because you've been relying on gear instead of talent all this time.

The irony.

Lol

Stikato · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

3 templar tanks, one DK tank. All wearing Malubeth and 3 wearing Reactive.

The 11 dps dudes are more or less focusing the tanks one by one.

They aren't doing any damage....

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert What has this game come to? Is this your idea of fun, competitive PvP?

After careful analysis, I have concluded that they just don't give a crap about fun, competitive PvP. Or at least not enough to produce it on a regular basic.

JDar · July 2016

Iyas wrote: »

Were the tanks able to kill one of the DDs? If not, whats the problem?

His point was this is not fun to play.

JDar · July 2016

Stikato wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

3 templar tanks, one DK tank. All wearing Malubeth and 3 wearing Reactive.

The 11 dps dudes are more or less focusing the tanks one by one.

They aren't doing any damage....

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert What has this game come to? Is this your idea of fun, competitive PvP?

After careful analysis, I have concluded that they just don't give a crap about fun, competitive PvP. Or at least not enough to produce it on a regular basic.

The game is balanced, but it's a cheesy balance. They figured out that templars were crummy -- so instead of going through all the abilities and re-engineering them, they said "well let's give them Radiant Destruction". They did something similar on shields too. They made every class equally able to use a *** shield instead of just making sorc shields weaker like they should have. I could go on but we all know. They wanted class balance instead of fun game mechanics, and this is what they got.

Volrion · August 2016

juhasman wrote: »

PvP overall head to the point where there are certain builds that forgive user a lot of mistakes. In PvP if You'll make a mistake You should be dead but still there are builds that completly ruin that theory and allows to make HUGE mistakes over and over and survive or even win.

What if you're playing with a 500 ping or lag spikes that make precision and regular sustain unplayable? You can't blame the players for trying to adopt a play style that allows them to survive due to poor server stability.

I assume many of the tanky builds are a result of the disgraceful bugs and lag in Cyrodiil.

I saw a guy post in here yesterday asking for a "Lag Build".

Never in my life have I seen a game where people are building for lag like they do with ESO.

I usually run burst/gank builds because my lag is so bad that anything else I can't compete. If I don't take down my target in less than 5 seconds, I'm not going to have time to react and I won't ever see their attacks until I check the death recap.

For me, and I'm sure many other players (especially Oceana/Asia) we are left with very few options;

- Gank from stealth
- Zerg potato
- Tank potato

Neither of the options are all that fun tbh.

I'd love to go back to pre IC (console) and play my sustain builds and actually fight, but ZOS *** up their game so bad that's not possible anymore.

Instead of spending so much time and resources nerfing/balancing a bunch of issues, I'd vote they stabilize the game first, then people would be able to play how they really want, and we'd probably see many of these cheese builds disappear.

(With that said, personally I have no problem with reactive, fassalla etc. But I do think Malabeth should be looked at so it perhaps only benefits true tanks, and not those using it with Hundings/Viper etc.)

Volrion · August 2016

ScottK1994 wrote: »

Lol people denying an issue. Two or three BAD players should be able to kill one tank. If not then the game isn't working.

Tanks shouldn't be PvP viable unless it's it's at most one person he can tank

This comment makes no sense.

A tank's sole purpose is to take/mitigate damage, at the cost of damage output. If it can only withstand one person what is the point of being a tank?

A burst build can "tank" one person by playing defensive.

I don't understand your comment. It's just ridiculous.

DaybreakerMusic · August 2016

Sanct16 wrote: »

Did you consider that those 11 guys are maybe just pugs and therefore ***? I would bet a lot of money that my group wouldnt struggle killing 4 malu/reactive ppl with 11 people.

Malubeth/Reactive is tanky combo but only really useful in Xv1 so while I wouldn't be sad to see it go I don't really care much about some dudes tanking some zerg. Noone who actually plays somewhat competitive would ever run Malubeth/Reactive...

HAHAHAHA you guys were struggeling to kill me alone on my cancerplar
stop lying and l2p

Argonian_Jesus · August 2016

Elder tanks online

DaybreakerMusic · August 2016

Sanct16 wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

Were the tanks able to kill one of the DDs? If not, whats the problem?

Yes. They ended up wiping the group.

Well then those 11 were potatoes that deserved to be killed.

https://youtu.be/aT43dbOOrNg

SKYRYKER · August 2016

DaybreakerMusic wrote: »

https://youtu.be/aT43dbOOrNg

That doesnt really look like they were struggeling

DaybreakerMusic · August 2016

SKYRYKER wrote: »

DaybreakerMusic wrote: »

https://youtu.be/aT43dbOOrNg

That doesnt really look like they were struggeling

would you please let me have my immersion sky???

Sanct16 · August 2016

@DaybreakerMusic

Thank you for proving my point

DaybreakerMusic · August 2016

Sanct16 wrote: »

@DaybreakerMusic

Thank you for proving my point

in what kind of way am i proving your point?

Imagine the called 4 Cancerplars. your superopawesome squad would not be able to kill this, when you need 1 minute to take me down with 10

Morostyle · August 2016

funny one daybreaker - I remember this one

No negate, no purge malubeth, just pure... "what shall we do next" moment

zuto40 · August 2016

11 DPs vs 3 TEMPLAR tanks and a dk tank all wearing malubeth, it'd be near impossible to kill 1, anytime you attack you've got 3 bols healing someone that's blocking with malubeth procing

KenaPKK · August 2016

zuto40 wrote: »

11 DPs vs 3 TEMPLAR tanks and a dk tank all wearing malubeth, it'd be near impossible to kill 1, anytime you attack you've got 3 bols healing someone that's blocking with malubeth procing

Couldn't even kill one when they were lying cced on the ground out of stam. Lol

Thank goodness for this Malu fix. I hope the set is working cleanly now.

Skitttles · August 2016

I just ignore these builds. They're not even a threat, just annoying. Just disengage and carry on. They can't kill you and once they realize you're not going to try and kill them they'll get bored and go away.

Master_Kas · August 2016

DaybreakerMusic wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Did you consider that those 11 guys are maybe just pugs and therefore ***? I would bet a lot of money that my group wouldnt struggle killing 4 malu/reactive ppl with 11 people.

Malubeth/Reactive is tanky combo but only really useful in Xv1 so while I wouldn't be sad to see it go I don't really care much about some dudes tanking some zerg. Noone who actually plays somewhat competitive would ever run Malubeth/Reactive...

HAHAHAHA you guys were struggeling to kill me alone on my cancerplar
stop lying and l2p

Tbh

DaybreakerMusic wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

@DaybreakerMusic

Thank you for proving my point

in what kind of way am i proving your point?

Imagine the called 4 Cancerplars. your superopawesome squad would not be able to kill this, when you need 1 minute to take me down with 10

Well you did nothing to keep your group alive , only yourself, and you was left as the last man standing, being no threat whatsoever :P Which was kind of his point I think.

KenaPKK · August 2016

Skitttles wrote: »

I just ignore these builds. They're not even a threat, just annoying. Just disengage and carry on. They can't kill you and once they realize you're not going to try and kill them they'll get bored and go away.

^

Maztiax · August 2016

Duh, you're supposed to use siege weapons

DaybreakerMusic · August 2016

Master_Kas wrote: »

DaybreakerMusic wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Did you consider that those 11 guys are maybe just pugs and therefore ***? I would bet a lot of money that my group wouldnt struggle killing 4 malu/reactive ppl with 11 people.

Malubeth/Reactive is tanky combo but only really useful in Xv1 so while I wouldn't be sad to see it go I don't really care much about some dudes tanking some zerg. Noone who actually plays somewhat competitive would ever run Malubeth/Reactive...

HAHAHAHA you guys were struggeling to kill me alone on my cancerplar
stop lying and l2p

Tbh

DaybreakerMusic wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

@DaybreakerMusic

Thank you for proving my point

in what kind of way am i proving your point?

Imagine the called 4 Cancerplars. your superopawesome squad would not be able to kill this, when you need 1 minute to take me down with 10

Well you did nothing to keep your group alive , only yourself, and you was left as the last man standing, being no threat whatsoever :P Which was kind of his point I think.

I am sorry that some nubs think it's a good idea to stay in the oil

twistedmonk · August 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

This is all part of Wrobel's master plan to empower the casuals that make up the majority of the player base.

The PvP in this game is horrible. how can you say build that 3-shot people is skill? it used to be 1-shot builds. Now it's 3, I guess that's skill, 1-2-3.

all of you guys are in denial, or you have never played a skill based pvp game.

thankyourat · August 2016

twistedmonk wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

This is all part of Wrobel's master plan to empower the casuals that make up the majority of the player base.

The PvP in this game is horrible. how can you say build that 3-shot people is skill? it used to be 1-shot builds. Now it's 3, I guess that's skill, 1-2-3.

all of you guys are in denial, or you have never played a skill based pvp game.

You aren't going to get 3 shotted unless you have bad gear and are knocked off you mount. Or just not paying attention

KenaPKK · August 2016

One shot builds not a thing anymore? Wut?

KingYogi415 · August 2016

This is why we can't have nice things...

The-Baconator · August 2016

thankyourat wrote: »

twistedmonk wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

This is all part of Wrobel's master plan to empower the casuals that make up the majority of the player base.

The PvP in this game is horrible. how can you say build that 3-shot people is skill? it used to be 1-shot builds. Now it's 3, I guess that's skill, 1-2-3.

all of you guys are in denial, or you have never played a skill based pvp game.

You aren't going to get 3 shotted unless you have bad gear and are knocked off you mount. Or just not paying attention

If you run into a ganker that isn't absolutely terrible (or at least whose build isn't absolutely terrible) you will get essentially one shot on 99.9% of builds. I have watched builds with +6k weapon damage in stealth (no procs just rally + continuous + alch) take blazing shield builds down to zero with a heavy attack + surprise attack + bash combo. Any build not stacking +55k health with 7 heavy doesn't stand a chance against a decent gank.