New to the mDK

connorw53 · July 2016

So I've been pretty bored of being incapp spammed lately but I don't want to go on into a debate about wether that needs sorting or not.

I finally made a mDK after leaving it the longest time, and first impressions seems tough. I like the challenge so I persist...

Firstly, fighting Templars seems completely pointless. Spending 7-8k magicka to get all DoT's cleansed is a real ballache. Not to mention I have to meteor to try and execute most classes.

More to the point, I feel it is a class that really needs a build change to go from solo play to small group play. I messed around with VD set in small group but that wasn't amazing (as I said I'm new to mDK, maybe a better player of class would utilise it more), but now with the crit builds crawling out of the walls again, I feel it's time for some heavy in my build.

I was wondering if
1. Are there any balanced heavy builds people are using right now that can work for both small group play and solo play?
And 2. I'm absolutely going to be using 5 impen, but why do I feel I am definitely going to be using blood spawn in any build I think about making?

Talon whip talon whip talon fossilise whip *counter cleanse* reload. Balance wobble

yodased · July 2016

Well I play in a non-cp campaign so my advice may suck elsewhere, but I have a ton of fun on my mDK

5piece juli
5 piece VD
2 piece valkyn

You aren't gonna have crazy stats or anything, 35k magic, 2.1k spell damage, 1600 regen, but that isn't the point.

The point is you are an inhale/wings/molten heavy attack monster than only needs to kill 1 guy in the group you are currently surrounded by and boom goes the dynamite.

I don't even use whip, or engulfing flames, or embers. They just get purged.

The secret to they way I play DK is rock. Specifically iron giant. it is such an under used and under appreciated skill.

Front bar destro back bar resto

molten + wings + volitile armor -> heavy attack canceled by crushing shock -> heavy attack cancelled by rock -> wall of elements - > talons -> knockdown dawnbreaker, repeat

There are dots being applied at all times from talons and from volitle armor and from wall of elements so valkyn procs quite often.

Its super fun, if you are AD NA, come to azura and I can show you some fun times

connorw53 · July 2016

Thanks for the reply. I am DC NA xb1 but il drop by so you can slap me around for a bit, maybe il pick up a thing or 2. GT- Wilkinsun

Also, I'm so torn between skoria or blood spawn. The ultimate regen is just so damn important to a class for me that seems to regain a ton of resource from dropping an ulti.

Last question- Is recovery pointless on mDK?

connorw53 · July 2016

Let me rephrase- not pointless, but is max the way to go

yodased · July 2016

well regen is key for any build in my opinion, but this particular playstyle is more reliant on a bigger pool than replenishing that pool faster.

Armitas · July 2016

I have been using 2bloodspawn, 3 will power, 5 blackrose, 2 torugs pact S/Bfor solo. Whats great about blackrose is the stam return, it allows me to run reverberating bash for a defile while in a magicka build with no worries over not having enough stamina to break CC.

For my raid build it's 1blood 1 kena, 3 will power, 5 blackrose 2 torugs pact Dual wield. My solo build is over 3k spell power, and my raid build is at ~4k spell power.

Yeah I have noticed the rebuilding around groups or solo as well. It is really harsh on the mDK. The root of the problem is that almost all of our survival comes from outside of the class such as armor, and that all of our damage and healing is contingent on an entourage of abilities. For example flame lash is balanced upon having talons and engulfing flames. The heal from it is balanced upon having talons, DB is only viable with embers and powerlash. So there are all these abilities that you have to carry around and that makes it difficult to build for multiple occasions.

Armitas · July 2016

connorw53 wrote: »

Also, I'm so torn between skoria or blood spawn. The ultimate regen is just so damn important to a class for me that seems to regain a ton of resource from dropping an ulti.

Skoria used to be a nice surprise nuke but now it's just a surprise extra flame lash. It doesn't do enough damage to really set someone back. I would definitely wear BS solo. In group fights skoria will depend on what fights you are encountering. In my group we are usually fighting 40+ people with 16 so Skoria is almost useless to me. We have to kill stuff instantly otherwise we get negated. We have returned to the era of negate orders so immediate burst between negates and counter negates is the most important kind of damage. BS plays a strong part in having an ultimate up for burst and surviving the negate.

Moglijuana · July 2016

Armitas wrote: »

connorw53 wrote: »

Also, I'm so torn between skoria or blood spawn. The ultimate regen is just so damn important to a class for me that seems to regain a ton of resource from dropping an ulti.

Skoria used to be a nice surprise nuke but now it's just a surprise extra flame lash. It doesn't do enough damage to really set someone back. I would definitely wear BS solo. In group fights skoria will depend on what fights you are encountering. In my group we are usually fighting 40+ people with 16 so Skoria is almost useless to me. We have to kill stuff instantly otherwise we get negated. We have returned to the era of negate orders so immediate burst between negates and counter negates is the most important kind of damage. BS plays a strong part in having an ultimate up for burst and surviving the negate.

^^this basically. Bloodspawn all day...because we need it.

Burning_Talons · July 2016

Ugh Im too lazy to explain I hate writing long posts. So if you want my help contact me on xbox

frownsyndromes · July 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe76uouh42A

connorw53 · July 2016

I've finished build now anyway and it's crazy good so, all is well, thanks for tips