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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Pelinals. I have a medium armor Magicka werewolf sorcerer with a destroy staff. 3600 spell dmg.

Zenartista
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This is my first expierience with a destrostaff build.
Is 3600 spell dmg on a destro bar high ?

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  • Makkir
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    Zenartista wrote: »
    This is my first expierience with a destrostaff build.
    Is 3600 spell dmg on a destro bar high ?

    Yes
    Answer ✓
  • Makkir
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    That has to be a buffed stat I presume?
  • Zenartista
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    Makkir wrote: »
    That has to be a buffed stat I presume?

    its something like 3598 buffed with major brutality from crit serg. i still have to upgrade some of my gear for it but have gold staff.

    werewolf heals are off the chain
    Edited by Zenartista on 12 July 2016 02:13
  • Roechacca
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    You're running a stamina gear spec on a magic Sorc?
  • Zenartista
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    You're running a stamina gear spec on a magic Sorc?

    i am.

    Pelinals allows me to turn the medium armor 12% weapon dmg bonus into spell damage. Same with the werewolf dmg bonus.

    im waiting on my laptop to update, i can post a screeshot of my stats if you guys would like?
    Edited by Zenartista on 12 July 2016 02:20
  • Roechacca
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    Zenartista wrote: »
    Roechacca wrote: »
    You're running a stamina gear spec on a magic Sorc?

    i am.

    Pelinals allows me to turn the medium armor 12% weapon dmg bonus into spell damage. Same with the werewolf dmg bonus.

    im waiting on my laptop to update, i can post a screeshot of my stats if you guys would like?

    Yes please. It sounds really cool. I got to see this.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    What is your max magicka? Screenshot would be good.
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  • juhasman
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    Yeah but what do You need spell dmg after transforming into werewolf? All werewolf offensive skills are stamina based. And outside of werewolf You need using spells and lack of light armor is lack of spell crit,spell penetration, and cost reduction. Also what is Your max magicka and stamina? Because high spell dmg means nothing if You dont have enough magicka same like wep dmg without stamina.
    Edited by juhasman on 12 July 2016 02:38
  • Zenartista
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    my laptop still has a while. let me go take a pic and ill post stats

    juhasman wrote: »
    Yeah but what do You need spell dmg after transforming into werewolf? All werewolf offensive skills are stamina based. And outside of werewolf You need using spells and lack of light armor is lack of spell crit,spell penetration, and cost reduction. Also what is Your max magicka and stamina? Because high spell dmg means nothing if You dont have enough magicka same like wep dmg without stamina.

    3600 weapon dmg. 16k stam. my attacks dont destroy a person right away but they still hurt. the heal is disgusting 30.3k in PVE when i was testing. https://www.twitch.tv/toliveanddieguild/v/77225362 look a little after 5:10 at the crit heal

    my wolf has 3600 weapon dmg
    What is your max magicka? Screenshot would be good.

    33k
  • Zenartista
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    What is your max magicka? Screenshot would be good.

    Out of Cyro Stats with major brutality with food

    [img][/img]Screen%20Shot%202016-07-11%20at%2011.03.01%20PM.png
    Edited by Zenartista on 12 July 2016 03:12
  • Roechacca
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    So that's in WW form only?
  • Zenartista
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    So that's in WW form only?

    What's in ww only ? The weapon damage ?
    I have ww on my resto bar. I'll have weapon and spell damage up in the mid 3ks I would have to check weapon dmg exactly on ww

    Edited by Zenartista on 12 July 2016 04:10
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Zenartista wrote: »
    What is your max magicka? Screenshot would be good.

    Out of Cyro Stats with major brutality with food

    [img][/img]Screen%20Shot%202016-07-11%20at%2011.03.01%20PM.png

    That's pretty cool, no sarcasm, but your recoveries are bad. Nice max hp and stam but the weapon damage is useless to you unless you intend to be hybrid, and that spell damage is achievable with destro staff by other means that will leave you with more regen. Your max stam and hp are the only advantage I can see.
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  • Makkir
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    While that spell dmg is nice I was afraid to ask what your other stats are and now I see. The regen is really low. Sustain is the name of the PvP game unfortunately.
  • Waffennacht
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    Check out thebeard's build. Bet you can gain some more insight on yours.

    I think you guys found the use for Pelinal set, WW
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  • Roechacca
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    Zenartista wrote: »
    Roechacca wrote: »
    So that's in WW form only?

    What's in ww only ? The weapon damage ?
    I have ww on my resto bar. I'll have weapon and spell damage up in the mid 3ks I would have to check weapon dmg exactly on ww

    Hit WW ultimate and post a screen of that. This is a very interesting burst set up. Are you using streak to gtfo an regen?
  • bebynnag
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    im building something similar myself, but i got bored of leveling when i hit 22!

    ur stats look amazing :)
  • Zenartista
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    Zenartista wrote: »
    Roechacca wrote: »
    So that's in WW form only?

    What's in ww only ? The weapon damage ?
    I have ww on my resto bar. I'll have weapon and spell damage up in the mid 3ks I would have to check weapon dmg exactly on ww

    Hit WW ultimate and post a screen of that. This is a very interesting burst set up. Are you using streak to gtfo an regen?

    [img][/img]image.jpeg

    Here ya go. Major brutality with food in WW
    I healing ward stack while healing with dark deal and stun streaking
    I'm in medium so I can take a few hits
    im building something similar myself, but i got bored of leveling when i hit 22!

    ur stats look amazing :)

    Thank you. It feels really solid.

    I'm working on a dk with a similar Pelinals approach. A Magicka dk that can execute.
  • Roechacca
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    Hahaha!! NICE!!
  • Zenartista
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    Zenartista wrote: »
    What is your max magicka? Screenshot would be good.

    Out of Cyro Stats with major brutality with food

    [img][/img]Screen%20Shot%202016-07-11%20at%2011.03.01%20PM.png

    That's pretty cool, no sarcasm, but your recoveries are bad. Nice max hp and stam but the weapon damage is useless to you unless you intend to be hybrid, and that spell damage is achievable with destro staff by other means that will leave you with more regen. Your max stam and hp are the only advantage I can see.


    My recovery is terrible. However dark deal makes me feel as if I have infinite Magicka. The extra Stam regen keep my ability to heal to a full bar of Magicka and keep 70-80% of my Stam.

    By the time I need t use my Stam again. It's back to full. Unless I play sloppy with my dodge rolls.

    But I'm buffing my weapon damage because it turns into spell damage anyway.
    Edited by Zenartista on 12 July 2016 05:19
  • bebynnag
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    im building something similar myself, but i got bored of leveling when i hit 22!

    ur stats look amazing :)

    Thank you. It feels really solid.

    I'm working on a dk with a similar Pelinals approach. A Magicka dk that can execute. [/quote]

    mine is a templar if i ever get round to leveling him, ill share some pics :D
  • Zenartista
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    im building something similar myself, but i got bored of leveling when i hit 22!

    ur stats look amazing :)

    Thank you. It feels really solid.

    I'm working on a dk with a similar Pelinals approach. A Magicka dk that can execute.

    mine is a templar if i ever get round to leveling him, ill share some pics :D [/quote]


    Nice. I'm interested in seeing it
  • cschwingeb14_ESO
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    You would get a lot more actual damage in non werewolf if you went pelinals light, due to crit and pen passives. It would also help your sustain a lot, and add more crit for surge

    The downside would be loss of some dodge cost reduction, stam sustain and about 300 weapon damage.

    I have heard that WW heals only scale with magicka, not spell damage. It would be easy to test with just surge
  • Zenartista
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    You would get a lot more actual damage in non werewolf if you went pelinals light, due to crit and pen passives. It would also help your sustain a lot, and add more crit for surge

    The downside would be loss of some dodge cost reduction, stam sustain and about 300 weapon damage.

    I have heard that WW heals only scale with magicka, not spell damage. It would be easy to test with just surge

    if i went light i would lose 12% weapon/spell damage and could not use the buffs and skills that get me that high weapon dmg.
    there is alot of impen out there in cyro so i chose penetration over crit damage. works well for me.
  • twistedmonk
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    would be nice if Zenimax would just make the base staff damage the same as 2-hander damage. I think its like 20% less base damage to begin with.

    you need around 2500 magic regen in pvp I would think
  • Zenartista
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    you need around 2500 magic regen in pvp I would think


    dark deal. blessings from the zenimax gods to run stupid low regen
  • cschwingeb14_ESO
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    Zenartista wrote: »
    You would get a lot more actual damage in non werewolf if you went pelinals light, due to crit and pen passives. It would also help your sustain a lot, and add more crit for surge

    The downside would be loss of some dodge cost reduction, stam sustain and about 300 weapon damage.

    I have heard that WW heals only scale with magicka, not spell damage. It would be easy to test with just surge

    if i went light i would lose 12% weapon/spell damage and could not use the buffs and skills that get me that high weapon dmg.
    there is alot of impen out there in cyro so i chose penetration over crit damage. works well for me.

    Offensively, the only thing you would lose on WD is the 12%. There are no skills that are locked out by not using medium.

    You would gain 9-14% total damage with the light armor penetration passive. That would stack with the sharpened you are already using. The extra damage from+ 10% crit would indeed be small in PvP, but still noticeable. You also get more surge heals from the increased crit.
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