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purifying light discussion

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Baconlad
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Hey guys! I wanted to get a discussion regarding backlash and its morphs. Specifically purifying light as I main magick dps.

reason I bring it up is that I'm trying out a destro staff on my main damage bar and am sick of dark flare missing every target I cast at, making it worse that there are so many stamina builds out this patch. So I decided to bring back out purifying light.

Now the skill just doesn't seem to be doing any damage. I was under the assumption that when you cast it, then do damage to a player they take that damage back PLUS the extra oomph PL gives. So I cast this skill on one player, then a vampires bane and two heavy attacks, then BOOM! PURIFYING LIGHT FIRES with 1000 damage non crit, no bubble, and enemy not blocking...what gives? I understand that it can be purged but the skill went through its full duration. I easily did 10k+ damage to the guy before purifying ended.

What I'm asking for is for anyone who uses the skill in cyrodil frequently to let me know what your experiences of it are, so that we can determine If the skill is or is not working as intended, so that we can get the devs involved potentially. Thanks guys.

Also L2P followed by a description to my possible ignorance of the skill is PERFECTLY acceptable. Don't be gentle I can handle the heat XD
  • Baconlad
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    Ah and an bit more background. I've used the skill many times in the past...and I always come to the same conclusion that the skill is just...garbage
  • danno8
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    The skill tracks the damage everyone does to the target during it's duration and then releases a % of that damage up to the maximum cap.

    I can't remember what the % is off-hand but it DOES NOT release the full damage + extra amount %, it ONLY does a small % of the total damage that was done to the target.

    So in other words if the amount is 25% and the target takes 50,000 damage in those 6 seconds they will take 12,500 damage when it explodes, (or less if the cap is less).
  • danno8
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    Oh and it may be useful in PvE, but in PvP, the damage taken is usually way too low to make it useful.

    Blocking makes it useless, damage to shields don't count, and I find it generally impossible to land enough damage in the time frame to get anything over 1000-2000 damage from the skill.

    It can't be purged so that's something, it used to be good to reveal NB's but now that cloak suppresses DoT's I am not sure if that is any good anymore either.
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    The problem with Backlash in PvP is that if the target took enough damage over the 6 seconds to get a good Backlash hit, they are probably already dead. The target takes normal damage while Backlash is up, they just get hit with a burst of bonus damage afterwards. For that bonus damage to be significant, they have to take a ton of damage while Backlash is up.

    It is not too bad in group PvE when you are dealing with enemies with tens of millions of health and multiple DPS pounding away at them.
  • AJ_1988
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    The percentage that gets returned got nerfed but the amount stored got buffed. Atm I return 22% and store just under 17k in pvp but on some situations I have also noticed it not really doing more than a tickle. That could possibly be due to cp and defences.
  • Unsent.Soul
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    I have the same questions about eclipse and it's morphs. Never really tried it out in pvp. Curious if others have and what morph they use and their opinions.
  • Baconlad
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    What if they changed it to only YOUR damage and boosted the % of damage dealt?

    So you cast it, you deal 10k damage and it deals 5k. Would make it more apealing
  • AfkNinja
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    The problem with Backlash in PvP is that if the target took enough damage over the 6 seconds to get a good Backlash hit, they are probably already dead. The target takes normal damage while Backlash is up, they just get hit with a burst of bonus damage afterwards. For that bonus damage to be significant, they have to take a ton of damage while Backlash is up.

    It is not too bad in group PvE when you are dealing with enemies with tens of millions of health and multiple DPS pounding away at them.

    The bolded part. It's pretty terrible in PVP.
  • AJ_1988
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    Unsent.Soul wrote: »
    I have the same questions about eclipse and it's morphs. Never really tried it out in pvp. Curious if others have and what morph they use and their opinions.

    The dark one that reflects is awesome especially on resource npcs, reflects weapons enchants also. The other morph I don't like since they changed it. Deals more damage and can cast unlimited times. But doesn't reflect anything back.
  • Baconlad
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    Psh...only reflect that can be broken out of and have a six second cooldown...bump that skill it needs to change.
  • danno8
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    Psh...only reflect that can be broken out of and have a six second cooldown...bump that skill it needs to change.

    No, NO! Don't get me started on Eclipse! I have stuff to do.
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