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Akaviri Motif for Crown Shop

Avidspark
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Still waiting.

Anyone posting, remain civil. I know a lot of you want it to remain only available from AP, but fairness dictates that since every other motif prior went into the crown shop, Akaviri and subsequent motifs should as well.
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  • wolfie1.0.
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    I am ok with it going crown store, but so that the AP versions maintain value it should be the most expensive one in the store. so maybe 6=7k crowns.
  • WhiteNoiseMaker
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    That still asking for special treatment. All motif precedents prior to this point have still been incredibly expensive at 5000 crowns, and I don't think Akaviri should be priced any higher than that. There will still be people who prefer to purchase their missing motifs with in-game gold, and the AP farming will not be too negatively impacted I suspect. Maybe the prices will finally settle into a more reasonable range, once people have options they can choose from.
  • Mojmir
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    aren't they pretty far behind on motifs in the store? It's odd the way they release them in game too.
    Thieves guild should have been released with that dlc
    Trinimac and orc with wrothgar. Etc
  • svartorn
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    Still waiting.

    Anyone posting, remain civil. I know a lot of you want it to remain only available from AP, but fairness dictates that since every other motif prior went into the crown shop, Akaviri and subsequent motifs should as well.

    No.

    This is literally the only thing I can do with my millions of AP is sell these motifs.
  • Van_0S
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    Best not.
    Then there will be no reason to do PvP.
    If you love this game then you should experience everything it offers.
  • Avidspark
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    To both above...every other motif went into the crown shop...there's no reason to discriminate with this one.
    But thank you for remaining civil =)
    Edited by Avidspark on 22 June 2016 05:52
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  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    Fairness has nothing to do with it.

    Sometimes things are better earned the real way. Not by taking out your wallet.
  • americansteel
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    Still waiting.

    Anyone posting, remain civil. I know a lot of you want it to remain only available from AP, but fairness dictates that since every other motif prior went into the crown shop, Akaviri and subsequent motifs should as well.

    a new thread about this topic? get real

    go to pvp and work for it, or give me 800k gold for any motif you want
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  • Avidspark
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    No to both of you, fairness has everything to do with it. Every other motif went to crown shop, there is no reason Akaviri shouldn't too.

    Or every other motif should not have gone to crown shop. But, guess what, they did.
    'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    @Avidspark

    Not Every Motif has made its way into the crown store. Not including recent dlc. Which I'm pretty sure Akaviri has been around longer than Ancient Orc, which has made its way into the crown store, I farmed and bought all of the Akaviri and ancient orc. The in game way.

    I don't pvp, I built alts for pvp because I wanted akaviri motifs, I EARNED it, the old fashion way.
    It took a long time. But that's why I like MMOs because in life, all we have is time. I'm a goal driven individual, I suffered through the mess that is ESO pvp to get my most prized thing I have in this game, which is my Akaviri armor.

    *PLEASE ESO DONT ADD THIS MOTIF TO THE CROWN STORE*
  • Marque
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    I don't see any reason it shouldn't be in the crown store, I wouldn't purchase it there however it is purely cosmetic after all, is it not?
  • Avidspark
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    @Avidspark

    Not Every Motif has made its way into the crown store.
    Up to Akaiviri, yes, all made their way there. All.

    Akaviri shouldn't be any exception...nor should any subsequent motifs.


    You say you got your Akaviri the hard way...fine. I got my Glass that way too...then ZOS turned around and put it in the shop...so why should any of us who did so get the shaft, while Akaviri 'earners' didn't/don't?

    It's a fairness issue. Once they started putting some motifs in the shop, they needed to put all motifs in the shop. It's the only fair way now.

    'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
    T. Pratchett, 1948-2015 RIP, you are missed
  • timidobserver
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    I don't really want to spend the gold to remake my Akaviri gear. Hopefully it stays off the crown store.
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  • Avidspark
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    I don't really want to spend the gold to remake my Akaviri gear. Hopefully it stays off the crown store.

    Not quite sure what you mean by that, please elaborate?
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  • timidobserver
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    I don't really want to spend the gold to remake my Akaviri gear. Hopefully it stays off the crown store.

    Not quite sure what you mean by that, please elaborate?

    I would not want to wear it anymore if it went on the crown store.
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  • Avidspark
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    Oh I see...elitist, okay I get it.

    Not a fan, but w/e, do your thing. I'm more egalitarian in outlook, so i feel if one hard-to-get/expensive motif was put there, all should be.
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  • timidobserver
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    Oh I see...elitist, okay I get it.

    Not a fan, but w/e, do your thing. I'm more egalitarian in outlook, so i feel if one hard-to-get/expensive motif was put there, all should be.

    It would be nice to have a few motifs that are not purchasable with $$$.
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  • Avidspark
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    I might have agreed...had they not already started the trend. but they did, so now, to be fair, all should go there.
    'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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  • timidobserver
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    I might have agreed...had they not already started the trend. but they did, so now, to be fair, all should go there.

    There is not logical reason that every thing must be the same.
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  • Avidspark
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    I might have agreed...had they not already started the trend. but they did, so now, to be fair, all should go there.

    There is not logical reason that every thing must be the same.


    There is though...called playing fair. I don't know how many times i must repeat that before it sinks in for some people.
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  • timidobserver
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    I might have agreed...had they not already started the trend. but they did, so now, to be fair, all should go there.

    There is not logical reason that every thing must be the same.


    There is though...called playing fair. I don't know how many times i must repeat that before it sinks in for some people.

    Repeating your argument does not make it more valid.
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  • Avidspark
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    Not agreeing with it doesn't make it invalid.

    It's perfectly valid, as every other motif prior (including expensive/hard to gather ones) were placed into crown shop. If this isn't obvious to you, well, that's not my issue...it's yours.
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  • timidobserver
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    Not agreeing with it doesn't make it invalid.

    It's perfectly valid, as every other motif prior (including expensive/hard to gather ones) were placed into crown shop. If this isn't obvious to you, well, that's not my issue...it's yours.

    Blindly following the trend is not a good reason to do anything.
    Edited by timidobserver on 27 June 2016 20:40
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  • Avidspark
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    Nothing blind about it. And really, since you don't seem to be able to grasp the issue, I think we're done here. Thanks for the bumps.
    'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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  • Jayne_Doe
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    I agree that it should be for sale in the Crown Store, since glass was put up for sale, and not long after it was introduced to the game. And, too be honest, earning glass the in-game way is much more time-consuming, as there is a LOT of RNG involved.

    The problem with Akaviri is that the only way to earn it is by spending MILLIONS of AP, which then means that people who have extra AP and want to make some gold, put up the pages for sale at insane prices. Those that have posted here saying that you should EARN it by PVPing probably don't have any problem with someone buying it from another player - they haven't really earned it then, either, but who cares, since the PVPers get insane amounts of gold from it.

    The real reason they don't want it in the store is not from some sense of accomplishment being taken from them, but because they won't be able to hold non-PVPers over a barrel. They won't be able to make insane amounts of gold. To be fair, though, if they offer it for sale in the Crown Store, then they should lower the AP price on them - although, I guess that wouldn't be fair 'cuz then new PVPers would be able to purchase for much less AP. What about, once you've learned a page, then the AP cost of future pages is lower, so that they could still sell them, but at prices that would entice more players to buy from the guild store rather than the Crown Store?

    Also, for the record, I've been purchasing the Akaviri pages from other players - I have only ONE more page to go: AXES, which nobody seems to want to sell. I started seriously looking at the prices of Akaviri pages and then decided that I had enough gold to be able to buy it, and support other players. I shopped around, and managed to average $50K per page. I found some much cheaper, so I was willing to go higher on some others. Hopefully, someone on XB will put up Axes for sale.
  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    Avidspark wrote: »


    You say you got your Akaviri the hard way...fine. I got my Glass that way too...then ZOS turned around and put it in the shop...so why should any of us who did so get the shaft, while Akaviri 'earners' didn't/don't?




    They introduced Glass, and like two weeks later they added it to the crown store. No one was able to complete the glass motif in that amount of time, (unless they somehow got the gold book)

    So your willing to do those endless writs, but not invest in a pvp character to earn this motif you desire? And honestly I can make 100k ap a day, playing my healer.


    [Added] And what the post above says, I also bought my Akaviri sword motif for 50k.
    Shop around. :P

    I'm still saving up for shields. Than I'll know the whole thing.
    Edited by Paazhahdrimaak on 27 June 2016 20:27
  • Jayne_Doe
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    Avidspark wrote: »

    You say you got your Akaviri the hard way...fine. I got my Glass that way too...then ZOS turned around and put it in the shop...so why should any of us who did so get the shaft, while Akaviri 'earners' didn't/don't?

    They introduced Glass, and like two weeks later they added it to the crown store. No one was able to complete the glass motif in that amount of time, (unless they somehow got the gold book)

    I think that people were able to save up writ reward containers and then open them after glass was introduced for a chance at the glass pages. So, technically not impossible, though I would imagine that would have been a LOT of writ containers, plus, with all the duplicates, a LOT of trading. But it still may have been possible.
  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    @Jayne_Doe

    Good point, I remember that it's possible that way, I was stoked for the release of glass, but didn't plan ahead in that way.

    I just meant the general population of the game. And I would say most of them didn't know it was coming, unlike I'm sure a good amount of us on here we know what's coming before it's implemented.
  • Avidspark
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    As Jayne said, it was indeed possible to know the entire motif prior to shop introduction.

    It's about being fair. They introduced EVERY OTHER MOTIF PRIOR to the shop Paaz...to stop now is unfair.

    That is all, in a nutshell.
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    Jayne_Doe wrote: »
    I agree that it should be for sale in the Crown Store, since glass was put up for sale, and not long after it was introduced to the game. And, too be honest, earning glass the in-game way is much more time-consuming, as there is a LOT of RNG involved.

    The problem with Akaviri is that the only way to earn it is by spending MILLIONS of AP, which then means that people who have extra AP and want to make some gold, put up the pages for sale at insane prices. Those that have posted here saying that you should EARN it by PVPing probably don't have any problem with someone buying it from another player - they haven't really earned it then, either, but who cares, since the PVPers get insane amounts of gold from it.

    Do you know how long it takes to earn Millions of AP? It takes quite a long time. The value of the motif is usually determined by the investment it takes to get it. Now I agree with you that the price is insane. But not the gold price. The AP price is insane.
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