RIP Sergeant Set

KingKrotha · June 2016

Just look. Way to ruin a bunch of people builds. 20% heavy attack buff to this garbo. *slow claps*. Fix this ZOS or Imma riot.

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DKsUnite · June 2016

why change sets that no one ever chooses to even worse effects?

holosoul · June 2016

How is 1539 tooltip less than 20% of your weapon damage? You have 7000 weapon damage?

Asmael · June 2016

holosoul wrote: »

How is 1539 tooltip less than 20% of your weapon damage? You have 7000 weapon damage?

A crit fully charged heavy Inferno staff attack hits for over 20k without molten armaments. That'd be a 4k damage increase.

#Maths

holosoul · June 2016

You realize that adding 1539 to your tooltip damage will also be impacted by crit and other modifiers I hope.

Derra · June 2016

Cyrodiils light got reduced from 25% to 15% aswell. Morag Tong also got adjusted.

Classic ZOS: "Hey guys we gave you all the old item sets back with horrible rgn bags - also all sets worthwhile using got a nerf just in case..."

Ishammael · June 2016

Derra wrote: »

Cyrodiils light got reduced from 25% to 15% aswell. Morag Tong also got adjusted.

Classic ZOS: "Hey guys we gave you all the old item sets back with horrible rgn bags - also all sets worthwhile using got a nerf just in case..."

To be fair, those two sets needed a nerf

Kas · June 2016

Derra wrote: »

Cyrodiils light got reduced from 25% to 15% aswell. Morag Tong also got adjusted.

Classic ZOS: "Hey guys we gave you all the old item sets back with horrible rgn bags - also all sets worthwhile using got a nerf just in case..."

are they available in 160cp versions now? in early pts versions, only the rewards-for-the-worthy stuff dropped from the bags.
if so, I think both sets are still interesting (pet sorc + stam dk), even post-nerf

e: nvm, forgot they don't come as all kinds of peices

Asmael · June 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Cyrodiils light got reduced from 25% to 15% aswell. Morag Tong also got adjusted.

Classic ZOS: "Hey guys we gave you all the old item sets back with horrible rgn bags - also all sets worthwhile using got a nerf just in case..."

To be fair, those two sets needed a nerf

Cyrodiil light, whatever, don't care about the set.

Morag Tong set, as it stands, will effectively be used by 0% of the competitive builds in PvE. Simple math: even if poison damage was to make 50% of your total damage on a sustained fight, that means a 10% increase of poison damage effectively increases your damage by... 5%. And that's supposing you don't lose a 5th piece bonus, such as Hundings/NMG/TBS. A few DPS parses thus far have shown that my poison damage on my stam DK makes for about 35-40% of my total damage dealt on most boss fights. While I do not run Viper's Sting (classical Mael daggers), it's still pretty unlikely to be good enough to compensate for a global loss in damage, both poison and physical.

So, if not even stam DKs use it... who will? 15% on Morag Tong was fine, but all you had was a bunch of "OMG STAM DKs OP NURF" with literally 0 math to back it up.

Toc de Malsvi · June 2016

Presumably that number would go up a bit by increasing the quality of the item. I wonder what kind of increase you get at gold versus blue.

Ishammael · June 2016

Asmael wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Cyrodiils light got reduced from 25% to 15% aswell. Morag Tong also got adjusted.

Classic ZOS: "Hey guys we gave you all the old item sets back with horrible rgn bags - also all sets worthwhile using got a nerf just in case..."

To be fair, those two sets needed a nerf

Cyrodiil light, whatever, don't care about the set.

Morag Tong set, as it stands, will effectively be used by 0% of the competitive builds in PvE. Simple math: even if poison damage was to make 50% of your total damage on a sustained fight, that means a 10% increase of poison damage effectively increases your damage by... 5%. And that's supposing you don't lose a 5th piece bonus, such as Hundings/NMG/TBS. A few DPS parses thus far have shown that my poison damage on my stam DK makes for about 35-40% of my total damage dealt on most boss fights. While I do not run Viper's Sting (classical Mael daggers), it's still pretty unlikely to be good enough to compensate for a global loss in damage, both poison and physical.

So, if not even stam DKs use it... who will? 15% on Morag Tong was fine, but all you had was a bunch of "OMG STAM DKs OP NURF" with literally 0 math to back it up.

I wasn't worried about PvE, it needed adjustment for PvP.

Derra · June 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Cyrodiils light got reduced from 25% to 15% aswell. Morag Tong also got adjusted.

Classic ZOS: "Hey guys we gave you all the old item sets back with horrible rgn bags - also all sets worthwhile using got a nerf just in case..."

To be fair, those two sets needed a nerf

Cyro light was highly situational at best. Now it´s just something that´s not worth using again (on any class but templar).

I just don´t think having a set that´s possibly op in one scenario get nerfed so it´s undesireable for everyone else is a good thing.

Lokey0024 · June 2016

Its funny when a dot ability in pvp is outshined by regular health regen. Makes my wonder whobrainmagiked the numbers and duration.

Sandman929 · June 2016

This might work really well for a new build....outside the box. Thanks for the idea.

Alcast · June 2016

I was so pissed off about that change WHAT THE FUCKERINO ZENMIAX

They prolly sensed that Xeloki would have been too happy with this set so better instanerf it!

Vaoh · June 2016

"Commanding Strikes" gtfo

Changed a cool set that people could use for a variety of builds into utter trash. Completely stupid.

Xsorus · June 2016

To be fair you can get the old 5 piece on elegant gear... Buts light armor and geared for magicka.