Stamina sorc..

thomasvaughn21_ESO · May 2016

Been away from the game for awhile now ( until about the time imperial city came out ) stam sorcs still pretty bad? Sucks cuss they are a blast to play.. but used to have nothing going for them and looks like its still the same way.

MrTarkanian48 · May 2016

The upcoming DB patch appears to be an improvement.

A lot of people were begging for a spammable stam damage ability, and are upset that they did not get one.

They did tweak some passives that will help them. Rapid Strikes from Dual Wield is vastly improved, so many may run this since wrecking blow took a nerf. Silver Leash seems like a viable gap closer alternative to Crit Rush. Dawnbreaker and its morphs will scale with stam builds and be a strong low cost ultimate. Crit Surge provides a flat amount of health return which some people to be too low, but now it procs on crit damage from DOTS so IMO it may be more effective.

Overall, I think it is a positive change.

thomasvaughn21_ESO · May 2016

Positive enough to stick with my stam sorc or should I just say screw it and roll a NB or DK?

thomasvaughn21_ESO · May 2016

Also what changes are being made to rapid strikes?

Ajax_22 · May 2016

They took away our survivability with the surge nerf, and we got one good passive, one bad passive, and a Hurricane to compensate. With the Dark Brotherhood patch we will be doing slightly more DPS than we do right now. However, our survivability, which is already the worst of all eight classes, has been completely destroyed.

Waffennacht · May 2016

Im confused, why not run shuffle, vigor, rally? Along with bow and streak for positioning, CC and mobility?

I don't see why any stam would need another heal, with vigor and rally. Plus you get shuffle, roll dodge, (streak) and caltrops, I see no other mobility comparison

Ahzek · May 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

Im confused, why not run shuffle, vigor, rally? Along with bow and streak for positioning, CC and mobility?

I don't see why any stam would need another heal, with vigor and rally. Plus you get shuffle, roll dodge, (streak) and caltrops, I see no other mobility comparison

Stam sorcs need more skills to heal than other classes, because they do not have access to major mending ( DK and Templar) or the kiting/disengage ability from NB.
Additionally we do not have passive damage mitigation from our class, so that makes Storcs even more reliant on surge.

Waffennacht · May 2016

Ahzek wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Im confused, why not run shuffle, vigor, rally? Along with bow and streak for positioning, CC and mobility?

I don't see why any stam would need another heal, with vigor and rally. Plus you get shuffle, roll dodge, (streak) and caltrops, I see no other mobility comparison

Stam sorcs need more skills to heal than other classes, because they do not have access to major mending ( DK and Templar) or the kiting/disengage ability from NB.
Additionally we do not have passive damage mitigation from our class, so that makes Storcs even more reliant on surge.

Hrm, major mending huh? Fyi any resto heavy attack provides major mending with the buffed passive. Just something to throw out there. (Though i understand stam resto is... lmao)

No passive mitigation is very true. I was just curious is all.

I wanna try a stam sorc, as is streak is very effective as a gap closer counter, and bow with stam, major evasion and shuffle and roll dodge should make the 4 sec streak timer seem like nothing, and vice versa for the roll dodge cost increase.

Im gonna make a dark elf mork and infernal pet sorc stam build. Just because I wanna see how it'll do

I was thinkin Mork, Leki (or agility) and Maw, running Prey to make mork hit for over 10k (prob can get tooltip to 10k with Mighty and Stam, the Prey for +50%)

And Maw with Prey is technically a hair higher dps (or same) as Valkyn etc and fits the theme. Im gonna make a tiered pet build if it kills me.

Ahzek · May 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

Hrm, major mending huh? Fyi any resto heavy attack provides major mending with the buffed passive. Just something to throw out there. (Though i understand stam resto is... lmao)

A heavy attack with restro provides major mending for a whooping 1.5 seconds. I hope you can see how practical that is for any build that cant throw a boL right afterwards ( and that class already has the buff for a way longer duration).
And as you said, its ... lmao

Waffennacht wrote: »

I wanna try a stam sorc, as is streak is very effective as a gap closer counter, and bow with stam, major evasion and shuffle and roll dodge should make the 4 sec streak timer seem like nothing, and vice versa for the roll dodge cost increase.

Sadly streak is NOT an effective gap closer counter, since there is nothing on a stam sorc that prevent s targets from comming after you, and even if you have that, you need at least 3 streaks to get out of cyro gap closer range.
I personally am using streak more as a gap closer that doubles as CC in my PTS build, but its still inferior to especially invasion.

About your daedroth idea, sadly it dies very fast in PvP and does not really help to actually finish targets, unlike skorias.
That said i kinda want a Morkuldin/Maw stam sorc to be effective, simply because its fun.

Waffennacht · May 2016

Just real quick as I get exactly what you're saying... i said, "gap closer counter"

It's really cool to see a temp or nb, or even a wb DK fly at me, while I fly into them and in the other direction (just like all samurai moves/anime)

But I completely get ya. I just cannot get a magicka based Pet build working at the high end... it's gotta be do able!
Gotta be...