NB execute (killers blade morph) question

Serenityx · April 2016

This skill has worked properly for me throughout the non-vet campaign and of course in PvE. Now I'm vr7 I homed scourge and I notice a lot of the time my killers blade skill sometimes does basically no damage on players far under 25% health. So, is this is a bug with the ability or is their something that can actually mitigate my damage to where I'm hitting (consistently) only 1,000-2,000 critical damage on a player with basically no health on their bar. Like I mentioned already, I'm vr7 Im currently running with 5 blue quality hundings and 4 green quality ashens grip all divines with crit damage mundus and 3 purple weapon dmg glyphs on all my jewelry. My weapon damage is exactly 3k (in battle leveled cyrodil) when buffed with rally. I have 43 points in the ritual all precise strikes for 13% crit dmg bonus, 43 hardy in the lady tree and then 43 in the stam regen node under the lover. 45 stam attribute points and 10 in health.

Here is a clip to show what I'm talking about:

https://youtu.be/C36zoy4zt48

I don't normally spam the ability like this but with how low the enemys health Im just a little surprised he survived my executes.

ThePMSBeast · April 2016

wow that was crazy ! The only thing other then Hacks is maybe he was healing just enough to keep from dying ? I thought i saw heals coming off of the player so that might have been it. Some kind of damage mitigation with healing going on . But yeah, that was incredible they were not killed.

Serenityx · April 2016

ThePMSBeast wrote: »

wow that was crazy ! The only thing other then Hacks is maybe he was healing just enough to keep from dying ? I thought i saw heals coming off of the player so that might have been it. Some kind of damage mitigation with healing going on . But yeah, that was incredible they were not killed.

Can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but if you are or anyone thinks this is an l2p issue let me know what you think I'm doing wrong here. I'm new to vet PvP. Could he really have enough damage mitigation to survive that? Maybe 7 impen/nirn traits and proper champ point build to mitigate my damage this much?

DannyLV702 · April 2016

He should have been dead. It's that stupid bug where the person doesn't die.

Sunburnt_Penguin · April 2016

I wouldn't really advise on using KBlade in PvP because health pools are so low (~20k) so when it procs at 25%, there's only 5k health remaining. The only execute I ever use is Reverse Slice/Executioner as it procs at 50%, however in saying that, I don't even slot it a lot of the time due to the benefits Surprise Attack brings.

WB, Ambush & SA are really the only 3 close-quarter single-target damage-dealing abilities you need on a StamNB.

Edit:
And in direct response to your OP: I literally have idea what could be causing you to hit far under what you should be, so possibly:
1. Lag showing an incorrect amount on the health-bar due to heals and other people damaging him/her
2. Something to increase his/her resistance (although I can't see what) such as wearing Mark of Pariah set, healed by someone wearing Transmutation set or some sort of shield which isn't showing.

If I had stick on money on, it would be Mark of Pariah set.

myrrrorb14_ESO · April 2016

Looks like the damage was pretty low on those hits. So possibly a HoT ability or shields going on?

Looks like the vampire damage reduction is running on your target. It's hard to tell on my phone, lol.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO · April 2016

This guy should've died, it's certainly not normal.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2016

myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »

Looks like the damage was pretty low on those hits. So possibly a HoT ability or shields going on?

Looks like the vampire damage reduction is running on your target. It's hard to tell on my phone, lol.

I can't watch the video as well currently, but I was going to ask if your target was a vampire, as their mitigation scales up the lower they go.

Moglijuana · April 2016

Even if he was a vampire...he should have been dead like three separate times lol. Not a L2P issue. Might have been running a bugged phoenix set or something idk. #hax

emily3989 · April 2016

I've seen guys post videos on these forums where they ran around and wrecked whole raids with basically no health, it has got to be some bug that happens under certain conditions.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2016

It's not a bug Killer's Blade is stamina attack but the damage is magic so you need spell pen which stamina builds don't have low spell pen with everyone buff damage resistance just use the two handed execute.

emily3989 · April 2016

or this ^^^

Serenityx · April 2016

I didn't take vampirism into consideration, and with all the other damage mitigating/resistance Passives/abilitys in game I'm not as concerned about how little damage this ability is dealing. I still however don't see how the guy survived as at multiple points his health was low enough that any heals he was receiving could not have been enough to keep him up.

Im just gonna drop kb and run 2h execute. So far it's damaging much more reasonably for the amount it's supposed to.

RajinPVP · April 2016

Tbh .. Your execute is not doing that much.. As the person stated above .. Killer blade have magic damage ... it only scales on your maximum stamina..

tonemd · April 2016

Serenityx wrote: »

I didn't take vampirism into consideration, and with all the other damage mitigating/resistance Passives/abilitys in game I'm not as concerned about how little damage this ability is dealing. I still however don't see how the guy survived as at multiple points his health was low enough that any heals he was receiving could not have been enough to keep him up.

Im just gonna drop kb and run 2h execute. So far it's damaging much more reasonably for the amount it's supposed to.

There are many times as a vamp where I have gotten low health and hit with stuff that should have killed me but didn't because i was healing my ass off and that passive kicked in.

There are also those craftable sets that proc mitigation and/or health recovery on low health. Whitestrakes is actually a damage shield.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · April 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

It's not a bug Killer's Blade is stamina attack but the damage is magic so you need spell pen which stamina builds don't have low spell pen with everyone buff damage resistance just use the two handed execute.

It's STILL working like this?

Then what's the point of even MAKING this skill scale off of Stamina?

ThePonzzz · April 2016

This happens all the time. It's a bug. Sometimes you get to benefit from that bug too, so you can tell it's not just lag. I've survived when I was clearly at 0 health for a long time. When it happens, I try not to be a jerk and just run away, because in the past, I was able to kill like 10 people that were all on me and I should have been dead.

As for the Killer's Blade comment, if that's still true, they really should update the tooltip. Because it says...

Now scales off Stamina and Weapon damage, and heals you if target dies within two seconds of use.
Cost: 262 Stamina
Thrust a magic blade with lethal precision to stab an enemy for 54 Magic Damage. Causes 300% more damage to low health targets. Heals you for [17 / 18 / 19 / 20]% Max Health if the target dies within 2 seconds.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Assassin's_Blade

GreenSoup2HoT · April 2016

Obviously exploiting something. Most likely something with the phoenix set.

jeo329 · April 2016

Rally would not tick enough and I see no vigor got me stumped on that one I have survived 10% during magma shell and vigor

Serenityx · April 2016

ThePonzzz wrote: »

This happens all the time. It's a bug. Sometimes you get to benefit from that bug too, so you can tell it's not just lag. I've survived when I was clearly at 0 health for a long time. When it happens, I try not to be a jerk and just run away, because in the past, I was able to kill like 10 people that were all on me and I should have been dead.

As for the Killer's Blade comment, if that's still true, they really should update the tooltip. Because it says...

Now scales off Stamina and Weapon damage, and heals you if target dies within two seconds of use.
Cost: 262 Stamina
Thrust a magic blade with lethal precision to stab an enemy for 54 Magic Damage. Causes 300% more damage to low health targets. Heals you for [17 / 18 / 19 / 20]% Max Health if the target dies within 2 seconds.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Assassin's_Blade

Yeah, I've never seen this in non-vet campaign nor did I have a problem with this ability. So whatever 0 health bug is going on is only happening in veteran campaigns.

And to go back to the ability, Killers blade would hit 5-8k in non-vet on targets under 25% health. So if the person who made the comment about killers blade requiring magic pen is correct since it deals magic damage, that would mean that everyone in non-vet campaign had basically no spell resistance or whatever else mitigates magicka damage in this game which I don't find very plausible. Even low levels have enough spell resistance that this skill wouldn't do such less damage and only against vet players.

I just swapped to 2h/bow as before I was 2h/dw. 2h execute works fine I've critted upwards of 12k with 3k weapon damage on plenty of vr16 players under 30ish% health.

So my advice if anyone else is having this issue dump killers blade because it's *** ***.

Jaronking · April 2016

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

It's not a bug Killer's Blade is stamina attack but the damage is magic so you need spell pen which stamina builds don't have low spell pen with everyone buff damage resistance just use the two handed execute.

It's STILL working like this?

Then what's the point of even MAKING this skill scale off of Stamina?

ZOS to lazy to fix it also if someone is using Harness magica it will do no damage at all to them and give them magica back so its better just to use SA in that instance OP.That's what I do on my stam NB when fighting Sorcs have to use SA to execute them because I feel more comfortable with KB.

Serenityx · May 2016

Anyone know if this will be fixed with DB?

Jaronking · May 2016

Serenityx wrote: »

Anyone know if this will be fixed with DB?

Check the patch notes it getting changed .