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PvP Dawnguard esque build?

21jws10
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Hi Everyone!

Recently I've got into the habit of targeting abominations in PvP (Vampires/Werewolves) and enjoy the play style, though my character is far from optimized for it. I suppose the DB update will make things better in a lot of ways in general while detracting a few things, fair is fair I suppose.

Anyway, I play Imperial over anything else, literally it's the only race I will ever play so that part is sorted. Now I'm really sure what type of vibe I'm going for, thinking about it there is two ways to go with this, a crusader/paladin defender of Stendarr type thing or a more discreet hunter type thing, I just want to be able to be as versatile as possible, being able to get the jump and handle myself in a big battle.

I understand this is most likely going to be a stamina build due to the nature of the abilities. I feel in the future an actual Dawnguard or something of the like will be added as a skill line, so that may help some day.

Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions for this build? Like skills, armor, and other things. I suppose the new poison making is going to be useful, so if I go hunter I'm probably going to utilize that. Also are there any sets I can work for that are remotely useful for this?

FG skill line is going to be a core part of this, I assume Dawnbreaker and Silver bolts are good to have, hunter even with its changes is still useful for identifying I think, should any of the other skills be written off though?

I think aesthetically I'm going to have my crowns ready for when they release the fighter's guild clothing pack so I look the part regardless, perhaps some day they will release a Dawnguard costume pack like they released the Dovahkiin esque armor recently.

Looking forward to hearing from you all!

Tl;dr looking for suggestions to make an optimal build dedicated to slaying player vampires/werewolves.
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  • 21jws10
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    Anyone? :s Any estimates for the amount of afflicted players?
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  • MaxwellC
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    You can run silver leash as that's a really good ability (Currently it is but when DB comes out not so sure). That along with a bow n arrow while using evil hunter and poison injection you can animation cancel silver leash with injection and get some high hits on those pesky Werewolves/Vampires.
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  • Pink_Violinz
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    Not sure if it was mentioned but Templar would probably be the most appropriate for a Dawnguard character. Even using stamina, they are still the heavy-duty warriors with the twinge of restoration and fire the Vigilants of Stendarr and the Dawnguard regularly used. Templars can also be used for a wide variety of fighting styles, from tanking to dps to healing.

    Bow is good for WW considering all the poison damage, with a healthy dose of FG abilities thrown in. For vampires, abilities like Vampires Bane (surprising, I know), Dark Flare and Radiant Oppression are likely going to melt just about anything. Even though they're magicka based, they still do some beefy damage.

    Edited by Pink_Violinz on 11 May 2016 20:31
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Not sure if it was mentioned but Templar would probably be the most appropriate for a Dawnguard character. Even using stamina, they are still the heavy-duty warriors with the twinge of restoration and fire the Vigilants of Stendarr and the Dawnguard regularly used. Templars can also be used for a wide variety of fighting styles, from tanking to dps to healing.

    Bow is good for WW considering all the poison damage, with a healthy dose of FG abilities thrown in. For vampires, abilities like Vampires Bane (surprising, I know), Dark Flare and Radiant Oppression are likely going to melt just about anything. Even though they're magicka based, they still do some beefy damage.

    I agree with this. Thematically, Templar fits Dawnguard the best. Blazing Shield looks an awful lot like one of the abilities you get in the dawnguard in Skyrim. In terms of gameplay it doesn't much matter though. Honestly, this is why I can't wait for spellcrafting.
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  • 21jws10
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    Right then, I had some doubts regarding Templar originally but you've completely erased them. Thank you both of you @dodgehopper_ESO @Pink_Violinz .

    I want to make use of most of the FG abilities, but think it may be wise to swap out ring of preservation with Rune Focus. Blazing Shield seems to fit the bill, Vampire's Bane looks good too, really looks and sounds the part.

    Bow seems like a good fit for one weapon, however I am fairly unsure what the other may be...

    One ultimate is obviously going to be dawnbreaker, which Templar one would seem most appropriate for this play style you think?
    Edited by 21jws10 on 11 May 2016 21:26
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    21jws10 wrote: »
    Right then, I had some doubts regarding Templar originally but you've completely erased them. Thank you both of you @dodgehopper_ESO @Pink_Violinz .

    I want to make use of most of the FG abilities, but think it may be wise to swap out ring of preservation with Rune Focus. Blazing Shield seems to fit the bill, Vampire's Bane looks good too, really looks and sounds the part.

    Bow seems like a good fit for one weapon, however I am fairly unsure what the other may be...

    One ultimate is obviously going to be dawnbreaker, which Templar one would seem most appropriate for this play style you think?

    Bear in mind you'll use a different tool-set depending on what kind of a Templar you will be. As you are referring to the Dawnguard from Skyrim I'm going to go ahead and assume you recollect how most of the equipment for Dawnguard was medium or heavy, although the dude who talks to Arkay was a robe-wearing priest. That essentially covers all 3 archetypal builds. These are my suggestions based on the upcoming Dark Brotherhood patch, but everything is subject to change obviously as they adjust. The Undaunted Skill line will be useful to you and if you have it at rank 9+ you'll have the option to go 5pc's of your main armor +2 of another type or +1 of each type.

    Skills you should seriously consider on all builds: Cleansing Ritual, Repentance (Radiant Aura could be good if they make some changes to it), Rune Focus (Your Armor/SR Skill), Javelin (best single target rapid cc, problematic with DK though), Jabs (and its mag/stam morphs). All of these skills are great for you on theme and are useful to just about any build you pick.


    The Heavy Armor build is going is probably going to be your Tankplar, which has a few different flavors. The Bomblar tries to stack as much health and regeneration as possible, and you'll probably want to deck out in Hakeijo runes (Expensive). The other two builds of tank are a bit more hybridized between either Health/Magicka or Health/Stamina and your power choices will match appropriately. This will be more of a 1H+Shield toolkit, and you're going to want a gap closer, whichever one you prefer. You might like a Restoration staff on one bar to recover mag, get a range attack and bubbleheal, but its not necessary.

    If you want to be more of a stamina leaning build you should probably consider going at least 5 pieces of medium armor. I'm not going to tell you what weapon to use, because different builds are based on different scenarios. You can easily add in Flawless Dawnbreaker to get added weapon damage, which is nice since the Balanced Warrior Passive also gives bonus weapon damage. Bear in mind the bonus weapon damage is more useful in a Weapon/Stamina build (ie: 2hander, dw, 1h+s, bow). Evil/Camo Hunter are the same way. I gave up on the FG rune a long time ago, but I'd love to see this skill become more interesting in the future. Silver Shards is become more of a dps weapon, and will hit up to 5 targets, although the cc is no longer there I believe, its still a pretty cool skill, but more of a stamina skill choice.

    For magicka/Light Armor Templars you're going to be more interested in skills like Dark Flare, Radiant Destruction, etc. Blazing Shield is specific to the Bombplar build, but you can possibly get some mileage here as well with a large magic pool - the damage won't be as significant though since BS is health based in magnitude.

    Based on what you've written I feel like you're interested in the warrior type of builds, so that means either going 5+ Heavy or 5+ Medium armor. It is possible to be a magicka templar in heavy, but you'll want to pick up set bonuses that help make up for what is lost. This will likely be a hybrid magic/tank type build. Since you're quite interested in using Stamina build though, I think your final loadout will involve skills like:

    Camo Hunter, Power of the Light, Biting Jabs, Caltrops, Blazing Shield, Repentance, Rune Focus, Silver Shards, Flawless Dawnbreaker, Binding Javelin, Cleansing Ritual, Vigor and possibly Forward Momentum (if you go 2hander), Poison Injection (good vs. werewolves), Defensive Posture (1H+S), and Steel Tornado (DW, nice for farming). Obviously you can't pick all of these, and what you choose depends a lot on what weapons you want to pick. I'm just trying to give you some ideas.

    I don't suggest that you pick up vampires bane if you're a stamina build. Its nice as a snare, but I think you'll get better mileage out of your cleansing ritual, which is going to be a player based snare, cleanse, and minor HoT and also grant you major mending (which will boost things like Vigor/Rally).

    I hope that helps you. Just to let you know this has always been my character concept as well as a Templar. The fact that I currently play him as a Vampire was purely to just see what its like to play a Vamplar and unlock achievements. Eventually I plan to get rid of the vile disease though and go back to proper Templar behavior. :) Let me know if anything I said helps or if you have further questions.
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