300% damage absorb from healing ward is way too OP

Avenias · May 2016

Compare that with every other shield, DKs shield, templars shield, none of them can come anywhere close to the amount of damage this shield can absorb. It also heals you with this 300% extra absorb! There needs to be a massive tuning of this skill to be on par with other class shields.

Baconlad · May 2016

No, best healing comes from staff.... and it should, all classes have access

Vaoh · May 2016

Gotta admit, I have never heard people complain about this skill before.

Things to keep in mind:
• Healing Ward is only effective when you have low health.
• Has a pretty high magicka cost.
• Creates a minor heal to the point where you will never spam it for the heal itself. This heal only becomes very large if the 8 second duration goes by without the shield it spawns being touched much.
• The shield strength is absolutely terrible if at cast at full health. You need to be close to death to gain a strong shield.

Also, way not to mention Hardened Ward, Barrier, Bone Shield.... These provide similar or greater shields than Healing Ward, which is situational. Please, don't push to have a great skill which isn't OP nerfed.

Strider_Roshin · May 2016

The shield strength is pretty ridiculous. I cast this in combination with rapid regen and my magicka Nightblade is at full health. I would honestly increase the shield's initial strength while reducing its potential strength. If the potential was 2/3 what it is now, I think it would be more than efficient. Or a better idea, how about making damage shields crit-able that way it'll have the same effect in PvP whine not interfering with it in PvE.

zuto40 · May 2016

if someone is unable to burst down a shield or does not have some form of a stunning ability on their bar i can see why someone would think its op, but it really isnt, just cc someone with it at half then burn them, trying to kill someone at 1% health with this is foolish

FriedEggSandwich · May 2016

Avenias wrote: »

Compare that with every other shield, DKs shield, templars shield, none of them can come anywhere close to the amount of damage this shield can absorb. It also heals you with this 300% extra absorb! There needs to be a massive tuning of this skill to be on par with other class shields.

I don't disagree, but why are you comparing a weapon skill to class skills? Healing Ward may be better than a templar ward but templars can use Healing Ward if they want. Healing Ward might also be better than the sorc ward in the next patch too. What has always balanced out healing ward up to now is the 6 second duration; it was used more as a burst heal that you had to wait 6s for. I get the impression it was created as a counter to executes (which is legit imo). But now all wards have the 6s duration healing ward is looking good by comparison. It still has to be used at low health to be worth using though, this should be considered when evaluating its strength. I wouldn't say it was way too op, but it might looking at. A good place to start would be its cost, it's probably not expensive enough, too easy to spam.

LazyLewis · May 2016

All classes have access shield lasts a few seconds. It's 150% #battlespirit. If it's destroyed which it can be quickly they get no heal. Not OP

Rune_Relic · May 2016

Baconlad wrote: »

No, best healing comes from staff.... and it should, all classes have access

quoted for emphasis

myrrrorb14_ESO · May 2016

Lol, that's pretty crazy. Never heard of anyone complaining about this. It's an emergency heal and pretty effective when used at low health. At high health it's pretty useless as a shield in PvP.

Emma_Overload · May 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

The shield strength is pretty ridiculous. I cast this in combination with rapid regen and my magicka Nightblade is at full health. I would honestly increase the shield's initial strength while reducing its potential strength. If the potential was 2/3 what it is now, I think it would be more than efficient. Or a better idea, how about making damage shields crit-able that way it'll have the same effect in PvP whine not interfering with it in PvE.

You left out the part where you used Cloak to protect your bubble until it popped. Cloak is OP, not Healing Ward.

Strider_Roshin · May 2016

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

The shield strength is pretty ridiculous. I cast this in combination with rapid regen and my magicka Nightblade is at full health. I would honestly increase the shield's initial strength while reducing its potential strength. If the potential was 2/3 what it is now, I think it would be more than efficient. Or a better idea, how about making damage shields crit-able that way it'll have the same effect in PvP whine not interfering with it in PvE.

You left out the part where you used Cloak to protect your bubble until it popped. Cloak is OP, not Healing Ward.

That's because I didn't use cloak. With those two in conjunction you don't need it. Also cloak is not OP, it's garbage. I don't even use it on my stamblade

DHale · May 2016

You have made me want to retire from forum posting as the most ridiculous forum post... Possibly ever. Sigh.............

myrrrorb14_ESO · May 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

The shield strength is pretty ridiculous. I cast this in combination with rapid regen and my magicka Nightblade is at full health. I would honestly increase the shield's initial strength while reducing its potential strength. If the potential was 2/3 what it is now, I think it would be more than efficient. Or a better idea, how about making damage shields crit-able that way it'll have the same effect in PvP whine not interfering with it in PvE.

Well it's supposed to heal you. That's kind of the point of using healing ward. Add rapid regen to that and you just received the full benefit of being a healer.

So in other words, working as intended.

Lokey0024 · May 2016

No

Avenias · May 2016

ZOS should make all shields consistent with the damage it absorbs, but keep the variation. The 300% damage absorb is just too much mitigation and on top of that ur getting heals. So a sorc or a nightblade, especially magicka nightblade just has to pop one and vanish then pop back with full hp. Healing ward makes other shields look like a joke atm.

oibam · May 2016

you have to equip a resto staff
you get the shield not for 100% (if someone with lower hp is in range)
you can wear shield breaker
you can stun to prevent casting healing ward

no reason for a nerf. lol

Avenias · May 2016

oibam wrote: »

you have to equip a resto staff
you get the shield not for 100% (if someone with lower hp is in range)
you can wear shield breaker
you can stun to prevent casting healing ward

no reason for a nerf. lol

Stun can be broken instantly and it uses stamina. Stun cant be spammed. Shield uses magicka and can be spammed till the end of resource. Its not just insanely op, it makes other shields look bad in comparison.

brandishsteel · May 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

The shield strength is pretty ridiculous. I cast this in combination with rapid regen and my magicka Nightblade is at full health. I would honestly increase the shield's initial strength while reducing its potential strength. If the potential was 2/3 what it is now, I think it would be more than efficient. Or a better idea, how about making damage shields crit-able that way it'll have the same effect in PvP whine not interfering with it in PvE.

You left out the part where you used Cloak to protect your bubble until it popped. Cloak is OP, not Healing Ward.

That's because I didn't use cloak. With those two in conjunction you don't need it. Also cloak is not OP, it's garbage. I don't even use it on my stamblade

lol your logic is
jesus beam is not op at all when cast on low health target I don't even use it on my stam templar

RinaldoGandolphi · May 2016

Really?

Healing Ward won't even get very big unless the person is at 1% health.

Healing Ward already has its value cut in half in PVP, buts its cost was not reduce in conjunction, your also forced to use a resto staff instead of another weapon. There are clear disadvantages especially for classes that are not Sorc's to use it....a timed hard CC and burst is all thats needed to end most people with sheilds.

Just wait till next update when everyone is stacking dodge chance + dodge roll, and stamina has just as much OP sheilds as folks have been complaining about magic users...this will be relaly good..magic users never had the ability to roll, roll, roll with those shields but stam builds will...can't wait to hear the QQ over that one...

Lokey0024 · May 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Really?

Healing Ward won't even get very big unless the person is at 1% health.

Healing Ward already has its value cut in half in PVP, buts its cost was not reduce in conjunction, your also forced to use a resto staff instead of another weapon. There are clear disadvantages especially for classes that are not Sorc's to use it....a timed hard CC and burst is all thats needed to end most people with sheilds.

Just wait till next update when everyone is stacking dodge chance + dodge roll, and stamina has just as much OP sheilds as folks have been complaining about magic users...this will be relaly good..magic users never had the ability to roll, roll, roll with those shields but stam builds will...can't wait to hear the QQ over that one...

Its going to be even more endless battles

vortexman11 · May 2016

I'm pretty sure you're confused as to what the 300% is referring to.... Healing ward has a base size based which is then increased by up to 300% based on your missing health, reduced to 150% in Cyrodiil. You're rarely ever going to see a healing ward bigger than 15k in PvP

The way Im reading it, its sounding like you think it gives 300% damage mitigation?

Johngo0036 · May 2016

@Doncellius - and pair that with the vampire passive that makes you harder to kill when at low health and the build is pretty op..

I do agree that the skill is available to all,
but not really to stamina builds.. lol..........

1Grumpy_dunmer1 · May 2016

Johngo0036 wrote: »

@Doncellius - and pair that with the vampire passive that makes you harder to kill when at low health and the build is pretty op..

I do agree that the skill is available to all,
but not really to stamina builds.. lol..........

Stam builds have vigor+dodge roll+shuffle... Very effective and bone shield on next patch aswell im expecting similar results.

Vaoh · May 2016

Johngo0036 wrote: »

@Doncellius - and pair that with the vampire passive that makes you harder to kill when at low health and the build is pretty op..

I do agree that the skill is available to all,
but not really to stamina builds.. lol..........

I really don't want to sound like a jerk but.... there's this thing called balance...

On Stamina builds, my survivability comes from Vigor+Rally(Sometimes)+Major Mending. I dodge roll a ton and 20% of all attacks will literally miss me because of Shuffle. I can dodge roll, CC break, and block whenever I want to. Focus on damage avoidance. This is insanely effective, especially come Dark Brotherhood when Stamina gets massive buffs.

On Magicka builds, my survivability is made up of spamming Healing Ward/Harness Magicka(Sometimes)/specific Class abilities. Hardened Ward/Strife+Rapid Regen/BoL/Burning Embers.... etc. I can barely CC break, dodge roll, or block though. Focus on face-tanking damage. Roots in PvP can forcibly hold most Magicka builds since dodge rolling more than twice is usually a death sentence. Without Healing Ward, Magicka wouldn't only get a big nerf, but it'd be largely unnecessary as well.

Remember that Shield Strength gets -50% in Cyrodiil as well.