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Do you think ESO should be considered an "Elder Scrolls" game?
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Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, ESO is nothing like an Elder Scrolls game.Callous2208 wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".
I don't disagree with what you have said but this poll is pointless. There is no certain criteria that needs to be met to be considered an ES game. They have titled It Elder Scrolls Online and used the same world, lore, ect. It's an ES game. Whether or not people enjoy the mmo aspect and changes that came with it, is irrelevant.
Actually all the polls in the forums are pointless because they dont really matter.But they are entertaining and engaging enough that people want to join in on the conversations.So,in the end,anything posted here,whether we like it or we dont,is not pointless.4 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Yes... because it is.What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
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Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.
I voted "Yes", and I've played every Elder Scrolls since The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall.kawazu874b16_ESO wrote: »Viewing the vote, I feel those who voted yes never played an Elder Scrolls game !
ESO fits into the series just fine, and Bethesda has already said that what happens in this game is considered Canon, so... not much room left for argument.
ESO is a proper Elder Scrolls game.
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WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, ESO is nothing like an Elder Scrolls game.Callous2208 wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".
I don't disagree with what you have said but this poll is pointless. There is no certain criteria that needs to be met to be considered an ES game. They have titled It Elder Scrolls Online and used the same world, lore, ect. It's an ES game. Whether or not people enjoy the mmo aspect and changes that came with it, is irrelevant.
That's fine. My point was the unknown direction they're constantly in flux with is what is taking away from what's makes an TES game.
ESO is definitely not a TES game. Just because it takes place correctly on a timeline doesn't matter.0 -
Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.
Actually, ESO is an Elder Scrolls game.WalkingLegacy wrote: »Callous2208 wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".
I don't disagree with what you have said but this poll is pointless. There is no certain criteria that needs to be met to be considered an ES game. They have titled It Elder Scrolls Online and used the same world, lore, ect. It's an ES game. Whether or not people enjoy the mmo aspect and changes that came with it, is irrelevant.
That's fine. My point was the unknown direction they're constantly in flux with is what is taking away from what's makes an TES game.
ESO is definitely not a TES game. Just because it takes place correctly on a timeline doesn't matter.
It's the same thing as Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn vs. any other Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy is still a FF game.
Same with ESO. Just because there's an "Online" at the end does not disqualify it as an Elder Scrolls game.
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IrishGirlGamer✭✭✭✭✭
✭There arent many aspects of ESO that resemble what we all know as the "true" Elder Scrolls games ...
Do you think that ESO should be considered an "Elder Scrolls" game?
I'm just going to leave this right here ...
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Differences_Between_Morrowind,_Oblivion,_and_Skyrim
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Skyrim with DLCs and no mods is not even half as good as this game.
Skyrim without mods is actually pretty poor - you can craft the best gear without to even leave whiterun and then there is no point to explore at all, because there is nothing better to find than what you already have. Of course this is a poor way to play the game, but it is possible in vanilla and it should not be that way. That is why vanilla Skyrim was very poorly designed gameplay-wise. Like always landscape and so was amazing, but without mods game mechanics are just meh.Edited by Lysette on 11 April 2016 20:054 -
Evergnar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Is ESO like a single player TES game? No. Does it have an enormous amount TES content in it? Yes.4 -
Vals_Fan✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
Actually, ESO is an Elder Scrolls game.WalkingLegacy wrote: »Callous2208 wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".
I don't disagree with what you have said but this poll is pointless. There is no certain criteria that needs to be met to be considered an ES game. They have titled It Elder Scrolls Online and used the same world, lore, ect. It's an ES game. Whether or not people enjoy the mmo aspect and changes that came with it, is irrelevant.
That's fine. My point was the unknown direction they're constantly in flux with is what is taking away from what's makes an TES game.
ESO is definitely not a TES game. Just because it takes place correctly on a timeline doesn't matter.
It's the same thing as Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn vs. any other Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy is still a FF game.
Same with ESO. Just because there's an "Online" at the end does not disqualify it as an Elder Scrolls game.
This is my reasoning. The game itself is a different genre, nothing more. If I thought that this game would in any way cause the single player games to stop being what they are, I would be very annoyed too. But I doubt very much that will ever be the case.3 -
Moonscythe✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.OP, there was no world PvP in ES at least from Morrowind on. What are you thinking? I play ESO like it was any other ES game and just try to ignore the disconnect of other people in my dungeon or messing up my stealth. After finally getting bow right in Skyrim I wish I could be an archer again but that's really minor. Yes, ESO is more Elder Scrolls than it isn't and that just has to be enough until the real thing comes along.Scura di Notte - Altmer Nightblade (gear)
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jkemmery✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.The biggest thing that I dislike about ESO as opposed to previous TES games, (well, Skyrim, I honestly only spent a few hours playing Obivion before I couldn't take the graphics anymore) is that there are classes. I would really like to see classes go away entirely and you can just choose skill lines to pursue. Then we would have no more "nerf this, buff that" discussions, and the "spirit" of the gameplay would be more in line with previous TES games. I also hate the fact that any player can just crouch down to become invisible to enemies. That's ridiculous.
But even without that, I enjoy the game and find that it's almost as much fun as Skyrim. Just as much fun as vanilla Skyrim, really. The extensive player mods make Skyrim so good.
But I still think it deserves to be considered an Elder Scrolls game.1 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.
What about Redguard or Battlespire? Those are parts of TES universe as well, released by Bethesda and considered canon.WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
Loot system as a defining trait of the series? Interesting. I thought TES is all about universe, and not looting someone's clothes (which might be an option in any other game, regardless of the setting).ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
And this is why we cant join Dagoth Ur and all Stormcloak/Imperial missions are essentialy the same, no matter which side... Unfortunately, most of TES quests are pretty straightforward.Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
But why do you consider gameplay details so important that they outshine tons of TES lore? And ESO contains lots of new information and books.I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, ESO is nothing like an Elder Scrolls game.Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
Actually, ESO is an Elder Scrolls game.WalkingLegacy wrote: »Callous2208 wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".
I don't disagree with what you have said but this poll is pointless. There is no certain criteria that needs to be met to be considered an ES game. They have titled It Elder Scrolls Online and used the same world, lore, ect. It's an ES game. Whether or not people enjoy the mmo aspect and changes that came with it, is irrelevant.
That's fine. My point was the unknown direction they're constantly in flux with is what is taking away from what's makes an TES game.
ESO is definitely not a TES game. Just because it takes place correctly on a timeline doesn't matter.
It's the same thing as Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn vs. any other Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy is still a FF game.
Same with ESO. Just because there's an "Online" at the end does not disqualify it as an Elder Scrolls game.
This is my reasoning. The game itself is a different genre, nothing more. If I thought that this game would in any way cause the single player games to stop being what they are, I would be very annoyed too. But I doubt very much that will ever be the case.
Just because the lore is the same, doesn't mean they feel like TES games.
The poll is lame. The things that make TES games, TES games are drastically missing from ESO. It's like a hint of Elder Scrolls while being a confused game.0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.KoshkaMurka wrote: »
What about Redguard or Battlespire? Those are parts of TES universe as well, released by Bethesda and considered canon.WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
Loot system as a defining trait of the series? Interesting. I thought TES is all about universe, and not looting someone's clothes (which might be an option in any other game, regardless of the setting).ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
And this is why we cant join Dagoth Ur and all Stormcloak/Imperial missions are essentialy the same, no matter which side... Unfortunately, most of TES quests are pretty straightforward.Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
But why do you consider gameplay details so important that they outshine tons of TES lore? And ESO contains lots of new information and books.I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".
Skyrim has as well an RNG loot system - there are leveled loot lists with probabilities for any item to be included in the loot set.5 -
Vals_Fan✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.WalkingLegacy wrote: »Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
Actually, ESO is an Elder Scrolls game.WalkingLegacy wrote: »Callous2208 wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".
I don't disagree with what you have said but this poll is pointless. There is no certain criteria that needs to be met to be considered an ES game. They have titled It Elder Scrolls Online and used the same world, lore, ect. It's an ES game. Whether or not people enjoy the mmo aspect and changes that came with it, is irrelevant.
That's fine. My point was the unknown direction they're constantly in flux with is what is taking away from what's makes an TES game.
ESO is definitely not a TES game. Just because it takes place correctly on a timeline doesn't matter.
It's the same thing as Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn vs. any other Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy is still a FF game.
Same with ESO. Just because there's an "Online" at the end does not disqualify it as an Elder Scrolls game.
This is my reasoning. The game itself is a different genre, nothing more. If I thought that this game would in any way cause the single player games to stop being what they are, I would be very annoyed too. But I doubt very much that will ever be the case.
Just because the lore is the same, doesn't mean they feel like TES games.
The poll is lame. The things that make TES games, TES games are drastically missing from ESO. It's like a hint of Elder Scrolls while being a confused game.
I really said nothing about lore =\. Merely that this game is a different genre, and will not be just like the single player games no matter how hard you try. Straight up calling the poll lame isn't really helping anyone either. I get that in many ways it doesn't carry the spirit of the ES games we have played and loved, but I really could say the same about Skyrim vs Morrowind. I had gripes about it, the mechanics were changed, the map markers are annoying, quest journal wasn't even a journal, stats were missing and the magic system was lackluster, it was overall just dumbed down. But I still like it, I still consider it Elder Scrolls, just different in its own ways.
This is how I feel about ESO, it has a lot of annoying MMOisms in it, but by and large it isn't a bad MMO. (and I have played a lot of bad MMOs) The game isn't confused at all, it's an MMO and it knows it.Edited by Vals_Fan on 11 April 2016 21:135 -
MrDenimChicken✭✭✭✭✭No, ESO is nothing like an Elder Scrolls game.lordrichter wrote: ».MrDenimChicken wrote: »I tried to play ESO like I played skyrim...as in 1st person POV and exploring and getting lost.
I played ESO for the first year, just like this. Successfully. No "pretending".
well you seem to be very easily entertained haha0 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.MrDenimChicken wrote: »lordrichter wrote: ».MrDenimChicken wrote: »I tried to play ESO like I played skyrim...as in 1st person POV and exploring and getting lost.
I played ESO for the first year, just like this. Successfully. No "pretending".
well you seem to be very easily entertained haha
It was very entertaining. I would not be here if it was not. As to how easily, let's just say that I rarely stick with a game for more than a couple months. Six months, tops. I get bored. Only a couple games have been an exception to that, and ESO is one of them.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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waterfairy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, ESO is nothing like an Elder Scrolls game.Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »Same with ESO. Just because there's an "Online" at the end does not disqualify it as an Elder Scrolls game.
Just because there's an "Elder Scrolls" in front of online doesn't qualify it as an Elder Scrolls game.
It appears to be an ES game on the surface but it's pretty hollow and lacks the filling or the feeling of a true ES game.2 -
WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, ESO is nothing like an Elder Scrolls game.WalkingLegacy wrote: »Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
Actually, ESO is an Elder Scrolls game.WalkingLegacy wrote: »Callous2208 wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".
I don't disagree with what you have said but this poll is pointless. There is no certain criteria that needs to be met to be considered an ES game. They have titled It Elder Scrolls Online and used the same world, lore, ect. It's an ES game. Whether or not people enjoy the mmo aspect and changes that came with it, is irrelevant.
That's fine. My point was the unknown direction they're constantly in flux with is what is taking away from what's makes an TES game.
ESO is definitely not a TES game. Just because it takes place correctly on a timeline doesn't matter.
It's the same thing as Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn vs. any other Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy is still a FF game.
Same with ESO. Just because there's an "Online" at the end does not disqualify it as an Elder Scrolls game.
This is my reasoning. The game itself is a different genre, nothing more. If I thought that this game would in any way cause the single player games to stop being what they are, I would be very annoyed too. But I doubt very much that will ever be the case.
Just because the lore is the same, doesn't mean they feel like TES games.
The poll is lame. The things that make TES games, TES games are drastically missing from ESO. It's like a hint of Elder Scrolls while being a confused game.
I really said nothing about lore =\. Merely that this game is a different genre, and will not be just like the single player games no matter how hard you try. Straight up calling the poll lame isn't really helping anyone either. I get that in many ways it doesn't carry the spirit of the ES games we have played and loved, but I really could say the same about Skyrim vs Morrowind. I had gripes about it, the mechanics were changed, the map markers are annoying, quest journal wasn't even a journal, stats were missing and the magic system was lackluster, it was overall just dumbed down. But I still like it, I still consider it Elder Scrolls, just different in its own ways.
This is how I feel about ESO, it has a lot of annoying MMOisms in it, but by and large it isn't a bad MMO. (and I have played a lot of bad MMOs) The game isn't confused at all, it's an MMO and it knows it.
You obviously haven't seen the interviews with Matt Firor and ESO not being a "traditional MMO". The game has changed directions many times since launch. It definitely is confused. There's more solo content in this game than there is MMO.
Hence, it's not quite TES and not quite an MMO. Whole other debate though.2 -
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✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.It should be considered My Little Pony Online: Friendship Unlimited I AM UPDATING MY PRIVACY POLICY
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"MOAR!!!" = Experience scrolls and riding lessons,
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Appleblade✭✭✭✭✭milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »I LOVE the lore.
I LOVE the gameplay.
For me, this is a win-win.
YMMV.
Agreed; and OP is completely wrong when defining what an "Elder Scrolls" game is. Both Arena and Daggerfall, and even Morrowind, lacked housing as we knew it in Oblivion and Skyrim. No elder scrolls game has had "World PvP" for obvious reasons. And Spell Crafting, if Im not mistaken, that wasn't in a few ES games either including Arena. Housing is in bound; we know that from what has publicly been stated. More classes would be nice though.
Actually, Morrowind had housing - I had my house near Balmora, given to me by the house of Hlaalu - near the Kwama cave south-west of Balmora.
I just remember some Imperial guy who never wore a shirt at home saying I could stay at his place.2 -
Seraseth✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Appleblade wrote: »I just remember some Imperial guy who never wore a shirt at home saying I could stay at his place.
Caius, he was your contact with the Blades. Always found him a bit creepy, offering to let me stay there, while standing around shirtless, looking at me.
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Appleblade wrote: »milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »I LOVE the lore.
I LOVE the gameplay.
For me, this is a win-win.
YMMV.
Agreed; and OP is completely wrong when defining what an "Elder Scrolls" game is. Both Arena and Daggerfall, and even Morrowind, lacked housing as we knew it in Oblivion and Skyrim. No elder scrolls game has had "World PvP" for obvious reasons. And Spell Crafting, if Im not mistaken, that wasn't in a few ES games either including Arena. Housing is in bound; we know that from what has publicly been stated. More classes would be nice though.
Actually, Morrowind had housing - I had my house near Balmora, given to me by the house of Hlaalu - near the Kwama cave south-west of Balmora.
I just remember some Imperial guy who never wore a shirt at home saying I could stay at his place.
It was an actual property you got from house Hlaalu - it was not in a good condition when you got it, but with more contracts done it got more and more nice and cleaned up. I never played house Redoran or Telvani, so I do not know if those offered as well some housing.
Edit: Hm, I cannot find any information about this house, maybe it was part of a mod then, not sure. It was located to the south-west of Balmora in that valley which leads from Balmora to the bitter coast - between the Kwama cave and Balmora.Edited by Lysette on 11 April 2016 23:301 -
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✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Appleblade wrote: »I just remember some Imperial guy who never wore a shirt at home saying I could stay at his place.
Caius, he was your contact with the Blades. Always found him a bit creepy, offering to let me stay there, while standing around shirtless, looking at me.
And the skooma pipes he had under the bed and on table..lmao!
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Moonscythe✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Appleblade wrote: »milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »I LOVE the lore.
I LOVE the gameplay.
For me, this is a win-win.
YMMV.
Agreed; and OP is completely wrong when defining what an "Elder Scrolls" game is. Both Arena and Daggerfall, and even Morrowind, lacked housing as we knew it in Oblivion and Skyrim. No elder scrolls game has had "World PvP" for obvious reasons. And Spell Crafting, if Im not mistaken, that wasn't in a few ES games either including Arena. Housing is in bound; we know that from what has publicly been stated. More classes would be nice though.
Actually, Morrowind had housing - I had my house near Balmora, given to me by the house of Hlaalu - near the Kwama cave south-west of Balmora.
I just remember some Imperial guy who never wore a shirt at home saying I could stay at his place.
It was an actual property you got from house Hlaalu - it was not in a good condition when you got it, but with more contracts done it got more and more nice and cleaned up. I never played house Redoran or Telvani, so I do not know if those offered as well some housing.
Edit: Hm, I cannot find any information about this house, maybe it was part of a mod then, not sure. It was located to the south-west of Balmora in that valley which leads from Balmora to the bitter coast - between the Kwama cave and Balmora.
Actually, you got a house from whichever house you joined, provided you joined a house. All you had to do was go kill your rivals (I always hated that part). Hllalu's house was south of Balmora, Redoran's house was east of Ald Ruhn out in the ashlands and I don't remember where Telvanni's was. I always joined Hllalu but the house I used was the one the dead guy was in near the guard tower in Balmora. It had lots of space, including the corpse, and was centrally located. I also used the upstairs room at the inn in Caldera which was convenient to Creeper. There was lots of housing in Morrowind since nobody ever moved from their spots.Edited by Moonscythe on 12 April 2016 00:22Scura di Notte - Altmer Nightblade (gear)
Lalin del Sombra - Bosmer Sorcerer (alchemy/enchanting)
Angevin Sarkany - Bosmer Dragonknight
Alkemene Velothi - Dunmer Warden (Morrowind)
Sanna yos'Phalen - Altmer Sorcerer (provisioning)
Cosima di Mattina -Altmer Sorcerer
Naria Andrano - Dunmer Templar
Luca della Serata - Redguard Templar0 -
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✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.
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THIS IS A MMO!
Yes, it has a Elder Scrolls feel to it, but it is a MMO nontheless. A MMO set in ES universe.
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If you've ever played a MMO in the past, then you should know this by now, but if this is your first - let me educate you - accept it for what it is. Because it will never be Skyrim 2, Oblivion 2 or Morrowind 2.
I admit, I loved Morrowind (still have it on my 'puter), didn't care for Oblivion, never played (and never hope to play) Skyrim.
I was indeed hoping for Morrowind 2.
That being said, the fact that I can play WITH my sweetie in the same universe - in an ES universe - that's why I'm here. That's why I came, that's why I stay.
That's why I have 2 subbed accounts. And occasionally also play on the EU server.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.WalkingLegacy wrote: »Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
Actually, ESO is an Elder Scrolls game.WalkingLegacy wrote: »Callous2208 wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO is on the rails linear gameplay against TES open world RPG.
ESO has a structured RNG loot system and Skyrim is loot what you see.
Your choices in TES can change the outcome of the story in later game. Or things you decide can warp the game world later.
I could go on, but they're vastly different for sure. ESO is trying hard to not be a "traditional MMO" while still clearly being a "traditional MMO".
I don't disagree with what you have said but this poll is pointless. There is no certain criteria that needs to be met to be considered an ES game. They have titled It Elder Scrolls Online and used the same world, lore, ect. It's an ES game. Whether or not people enjoy the mmo aspect and changes that came with it, is irrelevant.
That's fine. My point was the unknown direction they're constantly in flux with is what is taking away from what's makes an TES game.
ESO is definitely not a TES game. Just because it takes place correctly on a timeline doesn't matter.
It's the same thing as Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn vs. any other Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy is still a FF game.
Same with ESO. Just because there's an "Online" at the end does not disqualify it as an Elder Scrolls game.
This is my reasoning. The game itself is a different genre, nothing more. If I thought that this game would in any way cause the single player games to stop being what they are, I would be very annoyed too. But I doubt very much that will ever be the case.
Just because the lore is the same, doesn't mean they feel like TES games.
The poll is lame. The things that make TES games, TES games are drastically missing from ESO. It's like a hint of Elder Scrolls while being a confused game.
Still, its a part of the franchise and universe. There will be even a card game - "Legends" - and it will still be a TES game, because its set in TES universe and is licensed by Bethesda.
I personally think that Skyrim (non-modded) is too dull and dumbed down, both gameplay- and story-wise, and its not really comparable to Morrowind, but that doesnt mean that its not a part of the series.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Yeah I think it should. Got the lore, set in the same world. If I didn't consider it an Elder Scrolls game I probably wouldn't of bought it.4 -
NovaMarx✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ESO should be considered an Elder Scrolls game.Skyrim with DLCs and no mods is not even half as good as this game.
Skyrim without mods is actually pretty poor - you can craft the best gear without to even leave whiterun and then there is no point to explore at all, because there is nothing better to find than what you already have. Of course this is a poor way to play the game, but it is possible in vanilla and it should not be that way. That is why vanilla Skyrim was very poorly designed gameplay-wise. Like always landscape and so was amazing, but without mods game mechanics are just meh.
Yeah, people seem to forget what vanilla Skyrim is actually like. There were so many details and patches needed to make it both a pleasure and a challenge to play. I for one modded the hell out of that game!
"Feet are for walking. Hands are for hitting. Or shaking. Or waving. Sometimes for clapping."
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✭✭No, ESO is nothing like an Elder Scrolls game.
What??Skyrim without mods is actually pretty poor - you can craft the best gear without to even leave whiterun and then there is no point to explore at all, because there is nothing better to find than what you already have. Of course this is a poor way to play the game, but it is possible in vanilla and it should not be that way. That is why vanilla Skyrim was very poorly designed
gameplay-wise. Like always landscape and so was amazing, but without mods game mechanics are just meh.
So you're saying that you maxed smithing, earned the 4 or 5 perk points to craft the best gear, and found the materials to make it without leaving Whiterun? Right.
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