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How much was the pre-IC battle spirit damage reduction?
Asmael
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Don't you dare cheat! That destroys the entire point of the poll! And yes, I know the answer.
To clarify the question in case you have a doubt: the battle spirit buff has been changed with the IC update, when right now we have 50% reduction to healing, shields and damage dealt.
Remember when people complained about extremely low TTK in 1.6? And yes, this poll is meant to point a little... issue with it, as if the devs forgot a little something... Don't forget: it's not bad if you don't have the right answer, actually that's the entire point of this poll.
Edited by Asmael on 25 February 2016 14:18 To clarify the question in case you have a doubt: the battle spirit buff has been changed with the IC update, when right now we have 50% reduction to healing, shields and damage dealt.
Remember when people complained about extremely low TTK in 1.6? And yes, this poll is meant to point a little... issue with it, as if the devs forgot a little something... Don't forget: it's not bad if you don't have the right answer, actually that's the entire point of this poll.
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How much was the pre-IC battle spirit damage reduction? 33 votes
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GeertKarel✭✭✭20%Its not that hard to guess if you've played pvp back then
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭20%Pretty sure even @ZOS_BrianWheeler has confirmed this was 20%.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭20%TTK hardly changed.
People who used to have 2.5k-3.5k damage now have 3k-5k damage. Some people are still bursting enemys down real fast.
We dont even have the new cleaver alchemist set yet...
I cant wait for the buffed proxi det bombs to come also. Its gonna be real fun.....
Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on 25 February 2016 19:09PS4 NA DC0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭20%Nothing changed, they reduces dmg using battle spirit then increased dmg via sets/enchantment, you get 174 wpn/spell dmg using enchantments were pre IC it was 52 or something. They sets like willpower/agility etc...
20-25k max stat was considered high and over 2k wpn/spell dmg was high as well.
Now people run around with 30k-40k max stats and 3k-4.5k spell/wpn power.
The 30% decrease in dmg got countered completely, shields/healing got nerfed thats all that happened.PS4 EU DC
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✭✭20%leepalmer95 wrote: »Nothing changed, they reduces dmg using battle spirit then increased dmg via sets/enchantment, you get 174 wpn/spell dmg using enchantments were pre IC it was 52 or something. They sets like willpower/agility etc...
20-25k max stat was considered high and over 2k wpn/spell dmg was high as well.
Now people run around with 30k-40k max stats and 3k-4.5k spell/wpn power.
The 30% decrease in dmg got countered completely, shields/healing got nerfed thats all that happened.
You are making no sense. 2.0-2.5k primary stats was standard in 1.5, even at the very start of 1.6 that went up to 30k+. And the further increase since then is mainly due to CP, wich also grant passive defense, so the point is moot, leaving only weapon/spell damage.
Also, heals didn't get nerfed relative to damage at all, if anything it's the other way around because of stronger passive resistances, from battle spirit but also from impenetrable. Shields did get a nerf because they were brought on par in the effects of battle spirit, wich isn't a bad thing, and because not all shields scale with spell power (although some do).
In the end though, damage numbers are still, even with more CP, lower than they were during 1.6.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭20%leepalmer95 wrote: »Nothing changed, they reduces dmg using battle spirit then increased dmg via sets/enchantment, you get 174 wpn/spell dmg using enchantments were pre IC it was 52 or something. They sets like willpower/agility etc...
20-25k max stat was considered high and over 2k wpn/spell dmg was high as well.
Now people run around with 30k-40k max stats and 3k-4.5k spell/wpn power.
The 30% decrease in dmg got countered completely, shields/healing got nerfed thats all that happened.
You are making no sense. 2.0-2.5k primary stats was standard in 1.5, even at the very start of 1.6 that went up to 30k+. And the further increase since then is mainly due to CP, wich also grant passive defense, so the point is moot, leaving only weapon/spell damage.
Also, heals didn't get nerfed relative to damage at all, if anything it's the other way around because of stronger passive resistances, from battle spirit but also from impenetrable. Shields did get a nerf because they were brought on par in the effects of battle spirit, wich isn't a bad thing, and because not all shields scale with spell power (although some do).
In the end though, damage numbers are still, even with more CP, lower than they were during 1.6.
Running around with 30k in 1.6 is the equivalent of running around with 40k + now. How many builds apart from high magicka sorc builds do that?
People had cp in 1.6, some people had even more than the current cap. The dmg literally hasn't changed. Reduction increased, people stats increase.
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ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭20%leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Nothing changed, they reduces dmg using battle spirit then increased dmg via sets/enchantment, you get 174 wpn/spell dmg using enchantments were pre IC it was 52 or something. They sets like willpower/agility etc...
20-25k max stat was considered high and over 2k wpn/spell dmg was high as well.
Now people run around with 30k-40k max stats and 3k-4.5k spell/wpn power.
The 30% decrease in dmg got countered completely, shields/healing got nerfed thats all that happened.
You are making no sense. 2.0-2.5k primary stats was standard in 1.5, even at the very start of 1.6 that went up to 30k+. And the further increase since then is mainly due to CP, wich also grant passive defense, so the point is moot, leaving only weapon/spell damage.
Also, heals didn't get nerfed relative to damage at all, if anything it's the other way around because of stronger passive resistances, from battle spirit but also from impenetrable. Shields did get a nerf because they were brought on par in the effects of battle spirit, wich isn't a bad thing, and because not all shields scale with spell power (although some do).
In the end though, damage numbers are still, even with more CP, lower than they were during 1.6.
Running around with 30k in 1.6 is the equivalent of running around with 40k + now. How many builds apart from high magicka sorc builds do that?
People had cp in 1.6, some people had even more than the current cap. The dmg literally hasn't changed. Reduction increased, people stats increase.
It's more like running around with 35k now. Apart from Sorcs also NBs ran high magicka builds from the start, after a while Templars got there, then DKs. But that is because the two latter ones had been hit badly in the update and needed the stats elsewhere to survive. Most stam builds only stayed under 30k because they preferred drinks over food, the same thing happened with magicka builds using drinks.
When it comes to damage - just when did you last get hit by a 20k fragments or wrecking blow? Just stop spreading your false information, at least in one thread...DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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The-Baconator✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Nothing changed, they reduces dmg using battle spirit then increased dmg via sets/enchantment, you get 174 wpn/spell dmg using enchantments were pre IC it was 52 or something. They sets like willpower/agility etc...
20-25k max stat was considered high and over 2k wpn/spell dmg was high as well.
Now people run around with 30k-40k max stats and 3k-4.5k spell/wpn power.
The 30% decrease in dmg got countered completely, shields/healing got nerfed thats all that happened.
You are making no sense. 2.0-2.5k primary stats was standard in 1.5, even at the very start of 1.6 that went up to 30k+. And the further increase since then is mainly due to CP, wich also grant passive defense, so the point is moot, leaving only weapon/spell damage.
Also, heals didn't get nerfed relative to damage at all, if anything it's the other way around because of stronger passive resistances, from battle spirit but also from impenetrable. Shields did get a nerf because they were brought on par in the effects of battle spirit, wich isn't a bad thing, and because not all shields scale with spell power (although some do).
In the end though, damage numbers are still, even with more CP, lower than they were during 1.6.
Running around with 30k in 1.6 is the equivalent of running around with 40k + now. How many builds apart from high magicka sorc builds do that?
People had cp in 1.6, some people had even more than the current cap. The dmg literally hasn't changed. Reduction increased, people stats increase.
Even at capped cp I'm not doing anywhere near the damage I was doing with 100 cp in 1.6 with the same base recov, and that's against a naked target with 0cp only benefiting from battlespirit.First PS4 NA Grand Overlord, Stormproof, and Flawless Conqueror.
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