DHale wrote: »

It's not going to be rolled back you keep tagging ppl that do not read forum posts. The ppl from zos that read these are moderators... Customer service ppl. They escalate important things that get grouped together. Where it goes after that is likely a circular file. They make official threads for things like bugs. 10 ppl opening new threads dilutes the information. Then 100 ppl comment on the thread and don't comment on the official thread.

this is an official thread.

Macro for the win - from now on!

I guess if they refuse to remove this, then we all need to start using macros, maybe they will listen then.

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Just wanted to update everyone on where we are at with the animation prioritization efforts going on right now. At its core, the goal for the change was to make it clear which attacks players were using, while preserving the responsiveness of combat. We’ve made great strides towards this, but there are still a number of cases where things just don’t look or feel right (blocking as an example). As such, we’re going to be rolling back this change in next week's PTS patch (2.3.4) and will not be taking it to the Live megaservers.

We will continue to iterate on the system internally and will roll out the changes when they are ready.

Good step! Can we have the same thing for stam reg while blocking and the champion system?

Awesome!

Wow

Didgerion wrote: »

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ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Just wanted to update everyone on where we are at with the animation prioritization efforts going on right now. At its core, the goal for the change was to make it clear which attacks players were using, while preserving the responsiveness of combat. We’ve made great strides towards this, but there are still a number of cases where things just don’t look or feel right (blocking as an example). As such, we’re going to be rolling back this change in next week's PTS patch (2.3.4) and will not be taking it to the Live megaservers.

We will continue to iterate on the system internally and will roll out the changes when they are ready.

There should be no animation prioritization.

Just make all animations visible....make them semi-transparent if several animation are active. Just like in the real life if you do two actions really fast then you see both actions at once.

That actually sounds kinda cool. But it may add too much video lag because the "semi-transparent" animation would probably be a spell effect or something.

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Just wanted to update everyone on where we are at with the animation prioritization efforts going on right now. At its core, the goal for the change was to make it clear which attacks players were using, while preserving the responsiveness of combat. We’ve made great strides towards this, but there are still a number of cases where things just don’t look or feel right (blocking as an example). As such, we’re going to be rolling back this change in next week's PTS patch (2.3.4) and will not be taking it to the Live megaservers.

We will continue to iterate on the system internally and will roll out the changes when they are ready.

Good to hear.
I almost gave up on my build because of new animation.

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Just wanted to update everyone on where we are at with the animation prioritization efforts going on right now. At its core, the goal for the change was to make it clear which attacks players were using, while preserving the responsiveness of combat. We’ve made great strides towards this, but there are still a number of cases where things just don’t look or feel right (blocking as an example). As such, we’re going to be rolling back this change in next week's PTS patch (2.3.4) and will not be taking it to the Live megaservers.

We will continue to iterate on the system internally and will roll out the changes when they are ready.

Thank you

Kolache wrote: »

Came back when they were removing vet levels... new vet levels given.
Waiting for open world pvp with justice system... justice pvp cancelled.
Looking forward to finally addressing animation cancelling? Yep, tabled no ETA.

Not even mad, it's just hilarious. Its some consolation that the forum won't be filled with threats and doom I suppose.

Vet levels - will be removed in the Brotherhood DLC.

Open world justice PVP - sounds like a good idea but is it really good ? Go take a look at the IC and you will instantly see its ugliness. There always will be groups of scrubs that will troll PVE players. Imagine a gank group staying at the harborage - I bet that no new players will want to stay in ESO after encountering such groups.

Animation Cancelling - should be fixed (the visual part) but attack weaving should stay.

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Just wanted to update everyone on where we are at with the animation prioritization efforts going on right now. At its core, the goal for the change was to make it clear which attacks players were using, while preserving the responsiveness of combat. We’ve made great strides towards this, but there are still a number of cases where things just don’t look or feel right (blocking as an example). As such, we’re going to be rolling back this change in next week's PTS patch (2.3.4) and will not be taking it to the Live megaservers.

We will continue to iterate on the system internally and will roll out the changes when they are ready.

Good on you guys. Glad you were able to make the call that something you wanted to push through isn't ready.
Making good changes is just as important as keeping incomplete ones out.

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Didgerion wrote: »

Open world justice PVP - sounds like a good idea but is it really good ? Go take a look at the IC and you will instantly see its ugliness. There always will be groups of scrubs that will troll PVE players. Imagine a gank group staying at the harborage - I bet that no new players will want to stay in ESO after encountering such groups.

Yeah I get that they couldn't figure out a way to make an opt-in open-world PvP system work without newbies being harassed, but I wonder how others MMOs manage to do the same? I'll happily delete my post when the vet levels are removed and animation cancelling/weaving/a combo system/etc is polished/fixed to look like a legit part of the game... until then, all of these things seem to fall under the category of "too hard, can't figure it out".

At least with bad fixes like bolt escape cost formulas and shield-breaker vs. shield-stacking we have some sorta movement, even if it appears to be confused.

Other mmo's haven't figured it out they just cater to the pvp minded player and the only pve players who stay are those too hard headed or thick skinned to not let getting constantly ganked effect them. And as much as some of the pvp community likes to think they are bigger or more important then they are and even some of the pvers who like to spread hyperbole about how this game caters to the pvpers in every way, the bottom line is the PVE player and not even the "hardcore"(and I use that term loosely really hard to be hardcore when there is no downside to dieing or failing objectives) is their main source of revenue and it appears to also be their goal to acquire more new players. A pvp system where these new players would be instantly attacked over and over again when the classes aren't even close to being balanced and many of their long term players have developed skills in animation canceling/weaving that isn't even hinted at in game. New players would instantly quit out side those too hardheaded or thick skinned to care.

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Just wanted to update everyone on where we are at with the animation prioritization efforts going on right now. At its core, the goal for the change was to make it clear which attacks players were using, while preserving the responsiveness of combat. We’ve made great strides towards this, but there are still a number of cases where things just don’t look or feel right (blocking as an example). As such, we’re going to be rolling back this change in next week's PTS patch (2.3.4) and will not be taking it to the Live megaservers.

We will continue to iterate on the system internally and will roll out the changes when they are ready.

That is awesome to hear. Thank you for that decision!

As I have suggested before, I would like a system where the weapon attack cancelling (i.e. weaving) still works as it does now, but the possibility of block cancelling a skill animation (and making the skill hit faster) is removed.

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Just wanted to update everyone on where we are at with the animation prioritization efforts going on right now. At its core, the goal for the change was to make it clear which attacks players were using, while preserving the responsiveness of combat. We’ve made great strides towards this, but there are still a number of cases where things just don’t look or feel right (blocking as an example). As such, we’re going to be rolling back this change in next week's PTS patch (2.3.4) and will not be taking it to the Live megaservers.

We will continue to iterate on the system internally and will roll out the changes when they are ready.

Great news. This gives me hope.

Wow! Thanks for sharing this! I've always been curious about my heavy attacks and why some weapons feels different then others. I don't care about animation canceling, but really like how deep into details you guys work.

I always block while ressing, which is fine. I wouldn't mind if it would show somehow that I am blocking at the same time as I res someone. How about adding a new resing "animation" when you block and res? And the current res animation shows when you do not block and res?