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Mojmir · January 2016

Lysette wrote: »

ralonasan wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Pangnirtung wrote: »

Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

That was pretty much exactly what he said. Yes they want to add skill lines in the future, but they want to get what we already have balanced and such first.

there will NEVER be balance in this game when the DEVs do not play their game.

agreed.

And they basically won't - simply because for them the game is WORK, and in their spare time they want to get away from WORK. So why the heck should they play it in their spare time?

I cook for a living ,i also enjoy cooking. see the pattern?

Smitch_59 · January 2016

Mojmir wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

ralonasan wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Pangnirtung wrote: »

Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

That was pretty much exactly what he said. Yes they want to add skill lines in the future, but they want to get what we already have balanced and such first.

there will NEVER be balance in this game when the DEVs do not play their game.

agreed.

And they basically won't - simply because for them the game is WORK, and in their spare time they want to get away from WORK. So why the heck should they play it in their spare time?

I cook for a living ,i also enjoy cooking. see the pattern?

You're very fortunate. Not everyone has a job doing something they enjoy.

ralonasan · January 2016

My favorite Quote from back in the day. so much lols

"We want to do the version that we think is the best game and the coolest experience," Hines continued. "And that means putting a lot of people and a lot of content creators towards having stuff that comes our regularly; every four weeks, five weeks, six weeks. Big new stuff that you want to do."

/thread

Mojmir · January 2016

Smitch_59 wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

ralonasan wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Pangnirtung wrote: »

Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

That was pretty much exactly what he said. Yes they want to add skill lines in the future, but they want to get what we already have balanced and such first.

there will NEVER be balance in this game when the DEVs do not play their game.

agreed.

And they basically won't - simply because for them the game is WORK, and in their spare time they want to get away from WORK. So why the heck should they play it in their spare time?

I cook for a living ,i also enjoy cooking. see the pattern?

You're very fortunate. Not everyone has a job doing something they enjoy.

its not about being fortunate, its about passion. if you don't love it, you've got no business doing it. literally

PURPLE245 · January 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey folks,

Just wanted to address some of the frustration about lack of details and new information being expressed in this thread. We've made a decision to tell you as much as we're able, as early as possible, and earlier than we have in the past. That means sometimes we can only tell you "We're working on X" without an ETA or additional details. This is especially true when we're talking about features we're working on that aren’t on the immediate horizon.

We understand you guys want dates on everything in the Year Ahead Article, and we’ll be working to keep you updated on these as soon as we’re ready and confident to share those dates. We will share with you full details and dates for everything coming to ESO in the next year, but it won’t come all in one shot, and definitely not this early in the year.

dont any of the team see the game is dying because of the lack of communication?? nobody want to be forcing them self to play a game waiting for something good to happen most of the pvp population are quiting or already have because we are not hearing anything but... we are working on it thats it... i hope you do realize once all the streamers quit say goodbye to your money and your game because they are the only people keeping it alive you dont see any pve players bringing 500+ views to your game dont you see this? when was the last pvp update? oh ic?really that was a pvp update?hmmm why is it full of *** mobs and bosses with no players there the only people who go there is people who still need to farm gear no one want to pvp and be halfway in a fight just to have a boss or a mobs kill you that was no pvp update admit it all i can say to you is you need to think fast before you loose half you players base because i can tell you one thing you keep pumping out this pve content rip to you game and the only people you can blame is yourself people have been saying for so damn long but you just dont listen you say you have a schedule for what and when things are coming out but do you really thing thats goin to work LOL no...........who is goin to stay in cyro for another year when you have all these new games coming out LOL Good Luck

Smitch_59 · January 2016

Mojmir wrote: »

Smitch_59 wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

ralonasan wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Pangnirtung wrote: »

Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

That was pretty much exactly what he said. Yes they want to add skill lines in the future, but they want to get what we already have balanced and such first.

there will NEVER be balance in this game when the DEVs do not play their game.

agreed.

And they basically won't - simply because for them the game is WORK, and in their spare time they want to get away from WORK. So why the heck should they play it in their spare time?

I cook for a living ,i also enjoy cooking. see the pattern?

You're very fortunate. Not everyone has a job doing something they enjoy.

its not about being fortunate, its about passion. if you don't love it, you've got no business doing it. literally

I spent 30+ years doing a job I didn't love. But it offered security, it paid well and it let me retire in my early '50s. Now I am able to pursue things I do love, but which don't usually pay well (such as playing video games, for instance).

Sausage · January 2016

No way, Im already at 523 or so. This can only mean one thing that they are adding CP-gear grind and CP-system is taking secondary place, so CP-system is gonna be secondary source of power and gear is primary.

Jsmalls · January 2016

I'm going to make this as constructive as possible!

So with enlightenment you get a very easy 1 to 2 CP a day depending where you are in the cap.

I just got 415 CP and I play a fair amount. The champion point cap isn't going to be raised for approximately 150 days? That's 150 days of enlightenment until the cap is changed and by a miniscule amount. I'm not sure what the average is but that's 250 to 300 almost free champion points leading up to the dark brotherhood dlc for those around 100 to 150 champion points currently. And for your "regular" and "loyal" fans we will be well above the 500 point cap with no incentive or ability to really "further" our character's development. The champion system really sold me on the game because it rewarded you for putting time into it.

The catch up system is great it gives those that don't have the time or are just starting a chance to compete. But a catch up system shouldn't hinder growth at such a rate that even if we were to strictly play your game with enlightenment, and then get off we'd still virtually cap out. What does that say for motivation.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · January 2016

Aimora · January 2016

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

When did ZOS say they were close to releasing PvP in the Justice System?

Companies scrap products and services after announcing a schedule for release all the time. Did ZOS even give us a schedule for PvP justice?

You said "those companies". Are you talking about Apple and MS? Those two companies have very little transparency when it comes to devices. On the other hand, MS has made many announcement of plans for Windows Phone over extended periods of time that they ended up cancelling because they knew they couldn't deliver. It happens all the time.

"Accountability" for what? For letting you know their tentative plans? You asked to know. If you can't handle disappointment, don't ask about plans because they often don't work out. Definitely don't ask to see the inner workings of software projects.

We shouldn't be like teenagers who complain when their parents don't get them the car they promised them because the family car broke down and they had to spend all their money on a replacement. Plans are always tentative, especially at early stages and when the plan is far in the future.

This exactly - people want more info - then when things change or deadlines are extended - people whine like crazy and accuse ZOS of lying! Damned if they do damned if they don't!

Jura23 · January 2016

Sausage wrote: »

No way, Im already at 523 or so. This can only mean one thing that they are adding CP-gear grind and CP-system is taking secondary place, so CP-system is gonna be secondary source of power and gear is primary.

yeah, I think you are right.

Mojmir · January 2016

Smitch_59 wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Smitch_59 wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

ralonasan wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Pangnirtung wrote: »

Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

That was pretty much exactly what he said. Yes they want to add skill lines in the future, but they want to get what we already have balanced and such first.

there will NEVER be balance in this game when the DEVs do not play their game.

agreed.

And they basically won't - simply because for them the game is WORK, and in their spare time they want to get away from WORK. So why the heck should they play it in their spare time?

I cook for a living ,i also enjoy cooking. see the pattern?

You're very fortunate. Not everyone has a job doing something they enjoy.

its not about being fortunate, its about passion. if you don't love it, you've got no business doing it. literally

I spent 30+ years doing a job I didn't love. But it offered security, it paid well and it let me retire in my early '50s. Now I am able to pursue things I do love, but which don't usually pay well (such as playing video games, for instance).

So did you make your customers/ product suffer because you didn't enjoy it? And If it's about security that's another thing they're failing at.

Jura23 · January 2016

jyates214b14_ESO wrote: »

I'm going to make this as constructive as possible!

So with enlightenment you get a very easy 1 to 2 CP a day depending where you are in the cap.

I just got 415 CP and I play a fair amount. The champion point cap isn't going to be raised for approximately 150 days? That's 150 days of enlightenment until the cap is changed and by a miniscule amount. I'm not sure what the average is but that's 250 to 300 almost free champion points leading up to the dark brotherhood dlc for those around 100 to 150 champion points currently. And for your "regular" and "loyal" fans we will be well above the 500 point cap with no incentive or ability to really "further" our character's development. The champion system really sold me on the game because it rewarded you for putting time into it.

The catch up system is great it gives those that don't have the time or are just starting a chance to compete. But a catch up system shouldn't hinder growth at such a rate that even if we were to strictly play your game with enlightenment, and then get off we'd still virtually cap out. What does that say for motivation.

Yup, if they still claim only few ppl are close to the cap, that means only few ppl plays their game on daily basis. Maybe that's what they should change instead of postponing CP cap change?

deleted008293 · January 2016

We might get more CP per DLC as for next year... and even more after. People need to catch up a bit.

If you ask me this is still a bad idea. If you want to start this game in like 3-5 years you're going to be a bit ... because you might never be able to catch up.

Also will CP be mandatory for wearing more powerful items? Or it will only allow you to use certain rare motifs? Or certan rare item sets?

Alucardo · January 2016

nordmarian wrote: »

Also will CP be mandatory for wearing more powerful items? Or it will only allow you to use certain rare motifs? Or certan rare item sets?

It's replacing the Veteran rank system, so it will be tied to the gear you want to wear.

Alcast · January 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey folks,

Just wanted to address some of the frustration about lack of details and new information being expressed in this thread. We've made a decision to tell you as much as we're able, as early as possible, and earlier than we have in the past. That means sometimes we can only tell you "We're working on X" without an ETA or additional details. This is especially true when we're talking about features we're working on that aren’t on the immediate horizon.

We understand you guys want dates on everything in the Year Ahead Article, and we’ll be working to keep you updated on these as soon as we’re ready and confident to share those dates. We will share with you full details and dates for everything coming to ESO in the next year, but it won’t come all in one shot, and definitely not this early in the year.

No wrong. All we want to know is what is coming with the THIEF GUILD. And if you did not notice, Thief guild will launch on PTS 3 WEEEKS. THREEEEEE WEEEEEEKS and NOT A SINGLE COMMENT/PREVIEW ON THAT CONTENT.

Why do you guys keep to lie to your costumers? Just tell us that you did not prepare *** for that ESO LIVE and we are all good to go.

And do not understand me wrong, I know you are here to communicate with us and you are doing your job, but tell the Head-Devs that they are doing a very poor job.
3 Weeks to early to ask for information on a DLC? I DO NOT *** THING SO.

James-Wayne · January 2016

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey folks,

Just wanted to address some of the frustration about lack of details and new information being expressed in this thread. We've made a decision to tell you as much as we're able, as early as possible, and earlier than we have in the past. That means sometimes we can only tell you "We're working on X" without an ETA or additional details. This is especially true when we're talking about features we're working on that aren’t on the immediate horizon.

We understand you guys want dates on everything in the Year Ahead Article, and we’ll be working to keep you updated on these as soon as we’re ready and confident to share those dates. We will share with you full details and dates for everything coming to ESO in the next year, but it won’t come all in one shot, and definitely not this early in the year.

No wrong. All we want to know is what is coming with the THIEF GUILD. And if you did not notice, Thief guild will launch on PTS 3 WEEEKS. THREEEEEE WEEEEEEKS and NOT A SINGLE COMMENT/PREVIEW ON THAT CONTENT.

Why do you guys keep to lie to your costumers? Just tell us that you did not prepare *** for that ESO LIVE and we are all good to go.

And do not understand me wrong, I know you are here to communicate with us and you are doing your job, but tell the Head-Devs that they are doing a very poor job.
3 Weeks to early to ask for information on a DLC? I DO NOT *** THING SO.

Calm down and just chill, the content details you seek will be here in 2 WEEKS, YESSSSS TWOOOOO WEEEEEKSSSS!!!!

Fruity_Ninja · January 2016

James-Wayne wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey folks,

Just wanted to address some of the frustration about lack of details and new information being expressed in this thread. We've made a decision to tell you as much as we're able, as early as possible, and earlier than we have in the past. That means sometimes we can only tell you "We're working on X" without an ETA or additional details. This is especially true when we're talking about features we're working on that aren’t on the immediate horizon.

We understand you guys want dates on everything in the Year Ahead Article, and we’ll be working to keep you updated on these as soon as we’re ready and confident to share those dates. We will share with you full details and dates for everything coming to ESO in the next year, but it won’t come all in one shot, and definitely not this early in the year.

No wrong. All we want to know is what is coming with the THIEF GUILD. And if you did not notice, Thief guild will launch on PTS 3 WEEEKS. THREEEEEE WEEEEEEKS and NOT A SINGLE COMMENT/PREVIEW ON THAT CONTENT.

Why do you guys keep to lie to your costumers? Just tell us that you did not prepare *** for that ESO LIVE and we are all good to go.

And do not understand me wrong, I know you are here to communicate with us and you are doing your job, but tell the Head-Devs that they are doing a very poor job.
3 Weeks to early to ask for information on a DLC? I DO NOT *** THING SO.

Calm down and just chill, the content details you seek will be here in 2 WEEKS, YESSSSS TWOOOOO WEEEEEKSSSS!!!!

So this.

Inb4 next ESO LIve has a bucketload of details on Thieves Guild, and plenty of great discussion points.

It's almost like this ESO Live was just a filler, to give some broad information to the masses. Can't help to feel it was rushed out as they're probably still getting back into the swing of things after their Festive season break. Sometimes it does more harm than good, given the sheer amount of negativity coming out of all the emotional gamers that expected more.

I think if we take emotion out if it, we can see some great announcements to be excited about, with an underlying message that there will be many more announcements in months to come. I'd be very surprised if most of these very in demand features are not added by the year's end.

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

Fruity_Ninja wrote: »

I think if we take emotion out if it, we can see some great announcements to be excited about, with an underlying message that there will be many more announcements in months to come.

As much as I enjoyed seeing Jessica again and like the show and our two ladies, I must admit that between firmly announced content being cancelled and the rest being merely "announcements of future annoucements, we're not telling you anything but stay tuned for further announcements of later annoucements", this session was frustrating.

This game is supposed to have quarterly big updates, there should be LOTS of very concrete stuff to talk about in such a show, every time.

The admittance (is that the correct word in english ?) that some stuff is actually easy to develop but has been put on the back burner because there aren't enough developing resources (quantity-wise) to work on them worries me a bit.

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Cadelay · January 2016

Mojmir wrote: »

Smitch_59 wrote: »

You're very fortunate. Not everyone has a job doing something they enjoy.

its not about being fortunate, its about passion. if you don't love it, you've got no business doing it. literally

What an ignorant view on the world. Sounds like something someone born with a silver spoon in their mouth would say.

I'm sure sewage workers are passionate about filthy and smelly sewage pipes, construction workers are passionate about working in 100 degree heat doing incredibly difficult labor, slaughterhouse workers are passionate about mass killing animals, impoverished laborers are passionate about mass-producing clothing and electronics for other countries, and felons are so happy working terrible kitchen jobs because they can't get hired anywhere else.

We don't have the technological advancement yet to be able to only work nice and pleasant and preferable jobs. We need people who work the terrible jobs because we can't automate that labor with machines yet.

strikeback1247 · January 2016

I loved the eso live episode! I knew exactly what was going to happen after the stream, so I leaned back, stuffed my mouth full with popcorn, and watched the forums explode :^)

AshTal · January 2016

First off I like the Ask Us anything and ESO live - its a hell of a lot more than a lot of other MMO's I have played have ever done and it's nice to see them. However

1) While I like the lore of ESO - I don't like the questions being done in ask us anything. Maybe they could have a lore section for questions as well. The lore questions tend to be for a very small section of people and not the wider player base. Personal I like lore but would like more on Argonian's and don't care about mangy cat people

2) I find that there are major concerns over PvP ability spamming, imbalance in racial abilities, lack of solo end game content ect ect that never get touched. I would think that the actual state of the game should get more air time.

3) While I would rather have some news than no news the line no ETA on everything is a bit disappointing. Couldn't we hear about some things we are actually going to see soon even if they are not major.

Mojmir · January 2016

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Cadelay wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Smitch_59 wrote: »

You're very fortunate. Not everyone has a job doing something they enjoy.

its not about being fortunate, its about passion. if you don't love it, you've got no business doing it. literally

What an ignorant view on the world. Sounds like something someone born with a silver spoon in their mouth would say.

I'm sure sewage workers are passionate about filthy and smelly sewage pipes, construction workers are passionate about working in 100 degree heat doing incredibly difficult labor, slaughterhouse workers are passionate about mass killing animals, impoverished laborers are passionate about mass-producing clothing and electronics for other countries, and felons are so happy working terrible kitchen jobs because they can't get hired anywhere else.

We don't have the technological advancement yet to be able to only work nice and pleasant and preferable jobs. We need people who work the terrible jobs because we can't automate that labor with machines yet.

seriously? silver spoon? try again, try harder. more like hospitality industry, serving the finest i can to thousands a day. forbes list,14 hours a day for the last 15yrs. welcome to the free world where you decide what you want to be, you choose it, you own it, make it or break it. sounds like your entitled to me. i started at an early age and the only fortune i have had is support and a proper upbringing. you mention a lot of lower end jobs, is that what your expecting in life? youd make a great dev for this game, ya fit right into the mentality.

Sausage · January 2016

Jura23 wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

No way, Im already at 523 or so. This can only mean one thing that they are adding CP-gear grind and CP-system is taking secondary place, so CP-system is gonna be secondary source of power and gear is primary.

yeah, I think you are right.

Or then Thief DLC is gonna add entirely new progression.

Mojmir · January 2016

AshTal wrote: »

First off I like the Ask Us anything and ESO live - its a hell of a lot more than a lot of other MMO's I have played have ever done and it's nice to see them. However

1) While I like the lore of ESO - I don't like the questions being done in ask us anything. Maybe they could have a lore section for questions as well. The lore questions tend to be for a very small section of people and not the wider player base. Personal I like lore but would like more on Argonian's and don't care about mangy cat people

2) I find that there are major concerns over PvP ability spamming, imbalance in racial abilities, lack of solo end game content ect ect that never get touched. I would think that the actual state of the game should get more air time.

3) While I would rather have some news than no news the line no ETA on everything is a bit disappointing. Couldn't we hear about some things we are actually going to see soon even if they are not major.

this all the way, to say something just to speak doesn't work, it causes confusion and just raises more questions.

ku5h · January 2016

At this point i would be happy if they just fixed performance issues in PvP (long loading screens, and lag spikes). Eveything else i can live with. That alone would keep me with this game for atleast a year, but if that is not fixed in next couple of months, i fear i will just rage uninstall the game, and be done with it...

Elloa · January 2016

@PURPLE245

i hope you do realize once all the streamers quit say goodbye to your money and your game because they are the only people keeping it alive you dont see any pve players bringing 500+ views to your game dont you see this?

I will just react to this point. This is a misconception a LOT of poeple have. PVP STREAMERS are the most visible part of the community. Yet they are FAR from being the majority.
The majority of players play the game, probably relatively casually, they don't come on forum and you have no idea they do exist.

This is why YOU have the impression the game is dying, while it's actually doing well. The PVP part of the game is probably going bad. I'm not denying that. But I don't think it would affect ESO globaly as much as you would like to believe it.

KanedaSyndrome · January 2016

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey folks,

Just wanted to address some of the frustration about lack of details and new information being expressed in this thread. We've made a decision to tell you as much as we're able, as early as possible, and earlier than we have in the past. That means sometimes we can only tell you "We're working on X" without an ETA or additional details. This is especially true when we're talking about features we're working on that aren’t on the immediate horizon.

We understand you guys want dates on everything in the Year Ahead Article, and we’ll be working to keep you updated on these as soon as we’re ready and confident to share those dates. We will share with you full details and dates for everything coming to ESO in the next year, but it won’t come all in one shot, and definitely not this early in the year.

I'll advice you ZoS people to read up on the history regarding Age of Empires Online and why it failed. I love the game, but I'm seeing some very disturbing signs from your company that usually doesn't end well for the game.

KanedaSyndrome · January 2016

Lysette wrote: »

ralonasan wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Pangnirtung wrote: »

Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

That was pretty much exactly what he said. Yes they want to add skill lines in the future, but they want to get what we already have balanced and such first.

there will NEVER be balance in this game when the DEVs do not play their game.

agreed.

And they basically won't - simply because for them the game is WORK, and in their spare time they want to get away from WORK. So why the heck should they play it in their spare time?

Good games are made with passion

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

Elloa wrote: »

@PURPLE245

i hope you do realize once all the streamers quit say goodbye to your money and your game because they are the only people keeping it alive you dont see any pve players bringing 500+ views to your game dont you see this?

I will just react to this point. This is a misconception a LOT of poeple have. PVP STREAMERS are the most visible part of the community. Yet they are FAR from being the majority.
The majority of players play the game, probably relatively casually, they don't come on forum and you have no idea they do exist.

Yes, couldn't agree more with you @Elloa .

Another indicator is the very, very low raise of CP cap that was announced (51 points in Q2 and presumably 51 points every quarterly DLC from then on). It means that many players have not yet reached the current cap, in spite of the implemented catch-up system. It means in turn that the vast majority of players are enjoying the game on a casual basis, with playstyles not focused on XP-gain. And they sure aren't noisy, but a precious asset to the game.

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