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  • ralonasan
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    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    Wait, so does the CP cap increase with Thieves Guild or with the next DLC after Thieves' Guild?

    After TG, by 51 points.
    The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
    ☐ THIS IS P2W!
    ☐ L2P n00b.
    ☐ Where is the LOL button??
    ☐ Fix PvP lag.
    ☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
    ☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
    ☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
    ☐ Natch Potes.
    ☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
    ☐ Race Change ETA?
    ☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
    ☐ Why don't Trials scale?
    ☐ Working as intended.
    ☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
    ☐ When will "thing" be added?
  • WalkingLegacy
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    I'm more interested in modernizing this MMO which they have no eta or plans even.

    The client, the features, all of it was acceptable in 2004. Not last year or 2014.

    Dungeon finder upgrades are a huge step in right direction but what about the rest of the game...?

  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Cazzy wrote: »
    I couldn't watch, my head is giving me pain again and everything confuses me. Apart from no skill line did they say anything else?

    They'll be spending a lot of resources into new skins... for you mount, likely some type of useless pet as well.

    Maybe a new dress?
    Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

    What this guy said and what pretty much every one is saying. Why should ZOS add more skills in the game when the ones in the game are imbalanced/broken.

    Well they should stop bringing dlc/pets/mounts and other useless stuff and fix the game first.

    I'm sure putting their full team or the majority of it to work on fixing it for a week or so wouldn't cripple them, then they'll have a stable foundation to release dlc that actually look good and hopefully encourage new people to sub or new players in general.

    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping. Cause here is what I hear when I read a post about wanting new skills "I want a new I win button that can kill in 1 hit cause every one else is using the same 1 shot kill build I'm using".

    So please stop all this crying about new skills cause they will never happen as long as the skills that area already live in the game are imbalanced/broken. Like if any one of you were a programmer would you add new skills to the game when you know the skills already live are busted? I should wouldn't cause that would just cause more problems so why should ZOS?
  • Lokryn
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    Kartalin wrote: »
    Legerdemain is the Thieves Guild skill line.

    I would have been fine with them renaming Legerdemain into the Thieves Guild Skill line and giving it some active skills and a new Ultimate.

    It just seems wrong that we have a Fighter's Guild and Mages Guild skill line but no Thieves Guild.
  • leepalmer95
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    1. What possible skills could they even add that would be "fun" or "useful"? (If they do add new skills, I'm pretty damn sure everybody would be crying about how pointless some of them are)
    2. Fix the current skills before adding any more

    tumblr_inline_moex25NQYj1qz4rgp.gif

    Thieves guild Ultimate:

    Name : Shadow Hands:

    Cost: 400

    Effect: You prepare yourself for your next theft and magicka boost you thieving speed, when your opponent goes to use his next consumable you instead steal it.

    That sounds interesting.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Dalsinthus
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    ralonasan wrote: »
    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    Wait, so does the CP cap increase with Thieves Guild or with the next DLC after Thieves' Guild?

    After TG, by 51 points.

    Thanks. Wow. That is a lot slower than I anticipated. Time to stop grinding CP and level up some alts or go fishing.
  • ralonasan
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    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    ralonasan wrote: »
    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    Wait, so does the CP cap increase with Thieves Guild or with the next DLC after Thieves' Guild?

    After TG, by 51 points.

    Thanks. Wow. That is a lot slower than I anticipated. Time to stop grinding CP and level up some alts or go fishing.

    avoid leveling alts xD that gives you CP.
    The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
    ☐ THIS IS P2W!
    ☐ L2P n00b.
    ☐ Where is the LOL button??
    ☐ Fix PvP lag.
    ☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
    ☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
    ☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
    ☐ Natch Potes.
    ☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
    ☐ Race Change ETA?
    ☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
    ☐ Why don't Trials scale?
    ☐ Working as intended.
    ☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
    ☐ When will "thing" be added?
  • Mojmir
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    Cazzy wrote: »
    I couldn't watch, my head is giving me pain again and everything confuses me. Apart from no skill line did they say anything else?

    They'll be spending a lot of resources into new skins... for you mount, likely some type of useless pet as well.

    Maybe a new dress?
    Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

    What this guy said and what pretty much every one is saying. Why should ZOS add more skills in the game when the ones in the game are imbalanced/broken.

    Well they should stop bringing dlc/pets/mounts and other useless stuff and fix the game first.

    I'm sure putting their full team or the majority of it to work on fixing it for a week or so wouldn't cripple them, then they'll have a stable foundation to release dlc that actually look good and hopefully encourage new people to sub or new players in general.

    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping. Cause here is what I hear when I read a post about wanting new skills "I want a new I win button that can kill in 1 hit cause every one else is using the same 1 shot kill build I'm using".

    So please stop all this crying about new skills cause they will never happen as long as the skills that area already live in the game are imbalanced/broken. Like if any one of you were a programmer would you add new skills to the game when you know the skills already live are busted? I should wouldn't cause that would just cause more problems so why should ZOS?

    if thats the case they should postpone everything til the existing stuff is fixed. pressure to release new stuff will always be. im not a programmer, im a customer. they released it, they can fix it. another episode of ESO live(dead) that fails.
  • ralonasan
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I couldn't watch, my head is giving me pain again and everything confuses me. Apart from no skill line did they say anything else?

    They'll be spending a lot of resources into new skins... for you mount, likely some type of useless pet as well.

    Maybe a new dress?
    Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

    What this guy said and what pretty much every one is saying. Why should ZOS add more skills in the game when the ones in the game are imbalanced/broken.

    Well they should stop bringing dlc/pets/mounts and other useless stuff and fix the game first.

    I'm sure putting their full team or the majority of it to work on fixing it for a week or so wouldn't cripple them, then they'll have a stable foundation to release dlc that actually look good and hopefully encourage new people to sub or new players in general.

    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping. Cause here is what I hear when I read a post about wanting new skills "I want a new I win button that can kill in 1 hit cause every one else is using the same 1 shot kill build I'm using".

    So please stop all this crying about new skills cause they will never happen as long as the skills that area already live in the game are imbalanced/broken. Like if any one of you were a programmer would you add new skills to the game when you know the skills already live are busted? I should wouldn't cause that would just cause more problems so why should ZOS?

    if thats the case they should postpone everything til the existing stuff is fixed. pressure to release new stuff will always be. im not a programmer, im a customer. they released it, they can fix it. another episode of ESO live(dead) that fails.

    yeah... good will is gone.
    The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
    ☐ THIS IS P2W!
    ☐ L2P n00b.
    ☐ Where is the LOL button??
    ☐ Fix PvP lag.
    ☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
    ☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
    ☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
    ☐ Natch Potes.
    ☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
    ☐ Race Change ETA?
    ☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
    ☐ Why don't Trials scale?
    ☐ Working as intended.
    ☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
    ☐ When will "thing" be added?
  • william19882007
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    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    Wait, so does the CP cap increase with Thieves Guild or with the next DLC after Thieves' Guild?

    after Thieves Guild they want people to get closer to cap
  • AngryNord
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    ralonasan wrote: »
    This ESO live just confirmed the death of this game.


    51 point increase per DLC AFTER thieves guild for CP

    no new skill lines.

    no eta on anything.

    RIP

    Can I haz your stuff?
  • MisterBigglesworth
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    Lol 51 cp per dlc. Needs to be at least 99/102. 51 cp over 3 months is nothing if zos wants players to feel like they are actually progressing then they need to raise the cp cap by more each time as the power difference from 17 more points into each tree is minimal.

    Well keep in mind also that they could easily come out with new gear that requires 552CP in order to equip that has, let's say, a 20% player power increase over the 501CP gear (20% would be insane, but you get the idea). You already see some of this power creep between V14 and V16 gear, (a much greater power difference than the V12 to V14 difference)
    Edited by MisterBigglesworth on 15 January 2016 21:30
    Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.
  • AngryNord
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    Lokryn wrote: »
    No Thieves Guild Skill line? You got to be kidding me.

    It's already in the game. It's called Legerdemain.
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I couldn't watch, my head is giving me pain again and everything confuses me. Apart from no skill line did they say anything else?

    They'll be spending a lot of resources into new skins... for you mount, likely some type of useless pet as well.

    Maybe a new dress?
    Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

    What this guy said and what pretty much every one is saying. Why should ZOS add more skills in the game when the ones in the game are imbalanced/broken.

    Well they should stop bringing dlc/pets/mounts and other useless stuff and fix the game first.

    I'm sure putting their full team or the majority of it to work on fixing it for a week or so wouldn't cripple them, then they'll have a stable foundation to release dlc that actually look good and hopefully encourage new people to sub or new players in general.

    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping. Cause here is what I hear when I read a post about wanting new skills "I want a new I win button that can kill in 1 hit cause every one else is using the same 1 shot kill build I'm using".

    So please stop all this crying about new skills cause they will never happen as long as the skills that area already live in the game are imbalanced/broken. Like if any one of you were a programmer would you add new skills to the game when you know the skills already live are busted? I should wouldn't cause that would just cause more problems so why should ZOS?

    if thats the case they should postpone everything til the existing stuff is fixed. pressure to release new stuff will always be. im not a programmer, im a customer. they released it, they can fix it. another episode of ESO live(dead) that fails.

    And they will fix it but players crying about wanting new skills isn't helping.

    Also another reason behind no new skills is the DLC it self. They said it will only really be adding is a the thieves guild quest line and a new trial that's it and to players who don't play thieves or play the good guy won't be apart of the thieves guild which means they only be buying a new trial and pretty sure players wont wanna waste 3000 crowns on that so they'll just not buy it.

    Now if the player doesn't buy it and there was a new skill line that means they never be able to use it which means this one player who did buy it will have those skills and if they are broken (most likely would have) they have a unfair advantage against they player who didn't buy it. Which in a nutshell means the thieves guild DLC would have been P2W cause if a player didn't have those skills they would be at a disadvantage against those who did buy it and join the thieves guild.
  • Pangnirtung
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    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping.

    As long as ppl keep spending money on the fluff like costumes and mounts the cash flow continues.
  • ralonasan
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I couldn't watch, my head is giving me pain again and everything confuses me. Apart from no skill line did they say anything else?

    They'll be spending a lot of resources into new skins... for you mount, likely some type of useless pet as well.

    Maybe a new dress?
    Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

    What this guy said and what pretty much every one is saying. Why should ZOS add more skills in the game when the ones in the game are imbalanced/broken.

    Well they should stop bringing dlc/pets/mounts and other useless stuff and fix the game first.

    I'm sure putting their full team or the majority of it to work on fixing it for a week or so wouldn't cripple them, then they'll have a stable foundation to release dlc that actually look good and hopefully encourage new people to sub or new players in general.

    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping. Cause here is what I hear when I read a post about wanting new skills "I want a new I win button that can kill in 1 hit cause every one else is using the same 1 shot kill build I'm using".

    So please stop all this crying about new skills cause they will never happen as long as the skills that area already live in the game are imbalanced/broken. Like if any one of you were a programmer would you add new skills to the game when you know the skills already live are busted? I should wouldn't cause that would just cause more problems so why should ZOS?

    if thats the case they should postpone everything til the existing stuff is fixed. pressure to release new stuff will always be. im not a programmer, im a customer. they released it, they can fix it. another episode of ESO live(dead) that fails.

    And they will fix it but players crying about wanting new skills isn't helping.

    Also another reason behind no new skills is the DLC it self. They said it will only really be adding is a the thieves guild quest line and a new trial that's it and to players who don't play thieves or play the good guy won't be apart of the thieves guild which means they only be buying a new trial and pretty sure players wont wanna waste 3000 crowns on that so they'll just not buy it.

    Now if the player doesn't buy it and there was a new skill line that means they never be able to use it which means this one player who did buy it will have those skills and if they are broken (most likely would have) they have a unfair advantage against they player who didn't buy it. Which in a nutshell means the thieves guild DLC would have been P2W cause if a player didn't have those skills they would be at a disadvantage against those who did buy it and join the thieves guild.

    Hmm. Pretty sure I have a tab on my skill page that says GUILD. And the thieves GUILD is a GUILD. And GUILDS under the GUILD tab have skill lines... And new skill lines were mentioned many times.... Am I missing something?
    The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
    ☐ THIS IS P2W!
    ☐ L2P n00b.
    ☐ Where is the LOL button??
    ☐ Fix PvP lag.
    ☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
    ☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
    ☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
    ☐ Natch Potes.
    ☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
    ☐ Race Change ETA?
    ☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
    ☐ Why don't Trials scale?
    ☐ Working as intended.
    ☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
    ☐ When will "thing" be added?
  • ralonasan
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Lokryn wrote: »
    No Thieves Guild Skill line? You got to be kidding me.

    It's already in the game. It's called Legerdemain.

    it has no skills... it has passives... and it's under the world tab... not Guild... Get real mate.

    Legerdemain was a Justice system update.
    Edited by ralonasan on 15 January 2016 21:31
    The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
    ☐ THIS IS P2W!
    ☐ L2P n00b.
    ☐ Where is the LOL button??
    ☐ Fix PvP lag.
    ☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
    ☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
    ☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
    ☐ Natch Potes.
    ☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
    ☐ Race Change ETA?
    ☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
    ☐ Why don't Trials scale?
    ☐ Working as intended.
    ☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
    ☐ When will "thing" be added?
  • Niaver
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    @ZOS_MattFiror
    No ETA. No ETA on this. I SAID NO ETA!!111

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler
    We are looking on it. We are discussing it.


    Thanks for info.
    PC EU - Daggerfall Covenant - @Niaver
    Erazar (main) - Khajit DK tank

    Proud owner of Maelstrom Sharpened Bow
  • bedlom
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    The amount of times I see ppl post this type of crap and yet the game will still remain alive and well.

    Adapt or die because the game will be just fine.
  • Stikato
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    OK, now there may be reasons Firor and Co. could not give ETA's on things. Maybe they just don't know yet.

    Then don't do an ESO live! Just the fact that they promoted an event communicating about their game, and they all trotted out there and said basically nothing shows us all how inept their management is. Damn, just say you have to delay it a week or two because you want to be able to tell us something concrete.

    The only thing we got concrete in this patch, is what we AREN'T getting

    We aren't getting new skill lines
    We aren't getting PVP Justice
    We aren't getting Spellcrafting (face it, it's never going to happen)

    All of the "positive" changes:

    Thieves Guild - No ETA
    Dark Brotherhood - No ETA
    Barbershop - No ETA
    Arenas / BGs - No ETA

    Their responses to the problems with PVP equate to me running out onto a freaking six-lane highway with my arms waving about wildly hoping someone stops and helps me. It's embarrassing.

    People have complained about a lack of communication. What this company shows is BAD communication. When they actually talk to us, they say:

    - Let's talk about something, but not really (Wrobel, AOE Caps)
    - We fixed A, B, & C (Not really. Oops, and we broke D. No ETA on the "fix")
    - We cancelled a feature we talk about many times
    - We added a new X to the crown store
    - The game is very successful and wow, what a great 2015
    - And of course... NO ETA

    Edited by Stikato on 15 January 2016 21:32
    Mordimus - Stam Sorc
  • Faulgor
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I couldn't watch, my head is giving me pain again and everything confuses me. Apart from no skill line did they say anything else?

    They'll be spending a lot of resources into new skins... for you mount, likely some type of useless pet as well.

    Maybe a new dress?
    Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

    What this guy said and what pretty much every one is saying. Why should ZOS add more skills in the game when the ones in the game are imbalanced/broken.

    Well they should stop bringing dlc/pets/mounts and other useless stuff and fix the game first.

    I'm sure putting their full team or the majority of it to work on fixing it for a week or so wouldn't cripple them, then they'll have a stable foundation to release dlc that actually look good and hopefully encourage new people to sub or new players in general.

    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping. Cause here is what I hear when I read a post about wanting new skills "I want a new I win button that can kill in 1 hit cause every one else is using the same 1 shot kill build I'm using".

    So please stop all this crying about new skills cause they will never happen as long as the skills that area already live in the game are imbalanced/broken. Like if any one of you were a programmer would you add new skills to the game when you know the skills already live are busted? I should wouldn't cause that would just cause more problems so why should ZOS?

    if thats the case they should postpone everything til the existing stuff is fixed. pressure to release new stuff will always be. im not a programmer, im a customer. they released it, they can fix it. another episode of ESO live(dead) that fails.

    And they will fix it but players crying about wanting new skills isn't helping.

    Also another reason behind no new skills is the DLC it self. They said it will only really be adding is a the thieves guild quest line and a new trial that's it and to players who don't play thieves or play the good guy won't be apart of the thieves guild which means they only be buying a new trial and pretty sure players wont wanna waste 3000 crowns on that so they'll just not buy it.

    Now if the player doesn't buy it and there was a new skill line that means they never be able to use it which means this one player who did buy it will have those skills and if they are broken (most likely would have) they have a unfair advantage against they player who didn't buy it. Which in a nutshell means the thieves guild DLC would have been P2W cause if a player didn't have those skills they would be at a disadvantage against those who did buy it and join the thieves guild.

    How is that different from all the BoP gear found in Orsinium?
    Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
    Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.
  • ralonasan
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    Stikato wrote: »
    OK, now there may be reasons Firor and Co. could not give ETA's on things. Maybe they just don't know yet.

    Then don't do an ESO live! Just the fact that they promoted an event communicating about their game, and they all trotted out there and said basically nothing shows us all how inept their management is. Damn, just say you have to delay it a week or two because you want to be able to tell us something concrete.

    The only thing we got concrete in this patch, is what we AREN'T getting

    We aren't getting new skill lines
    We aren't getting PVP Justice
    We aren't getting Spellcrafting (face it, it's never going to happen)

    All of the "positive" changes:

    Thieves Guild - No ETA
    Dark Brotherhood - No ETA
    Barbershop - No ETA
    Arenas / BGs - No ETA

    Their responses to the problems with PVP equate to me running out onto a freaking six-lane highway with my arms waving about wildly hoping someone stops and helps me. It's embarrassing.

    People have complained about a lack of communication. What this company shows is BAD communication. When they actually talk to us, they say:

    - Let's talk about something, but not really (Wrobel, AOE Caps)
    - We fixed A, B, & C (Not really. Oops, and we broke D. No ETA on the "fix")
    - We cancelled a feature we talk about many times
    - We added a new X to the crown store
    - The game is very successful and wow, what a great 2015
    - And of course... NO ETA

    Wish I could Pin this. Well Said
    The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
    ☐ THIS IS P2W!
    ☐ L2P n00b.
    ☐ Where is the LOL button??
    ☐ Fix PvP lag.
    ☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
    ☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
    ☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
    ☐ Natch Potes.
    ☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
    ☐ Race Change ETA?
    ☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
    ☐ Why don't Trials scale?
    ☐ Working as intended.
    ☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
    ☐ When will "thing" be added?
  • MikeB
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    Personally I and from what I've read and heard in person most want balance and fixes for what we have now, not more broken skills. Stop drama Queening every thing said/done by ZOS.
    Edited by MikeB on 15 January 2016 21:33
  • ralonasan
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I couldn't watch, my head is giving me pain again and everything confuses me. Apart from no skill line did they say anything else?

    They'll be spending a lot of resources into new skins... for you mount, likely some type of useless pet as well.

    Maybe a new dress?
    Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

    What this guy said and what pretty much every one is saying. Why should ZOS add more skills in the game when the ones in the game are imbalanced/broken.

    Well they should stop bringing dlc/pets/mounts and other useless stuff and fix the game first.

    I'm sure putting their full team or the majority of it to work on fixing it for a week or so wouldn't cripple them, then they'll have a stable foundation to release dlc that actually look good and hopefully encourage new people to sub or new players in general.

    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping. Cause here is what I hear when I read a post about wanting new skills "I want a new I win button that can kill in 1 hit cause every one else is using the same 1 shot kill build I'm using".

    So please stop all this crying about new skills cause they will never happen as long as the skills that area already live in the game are imbalanced/broken. Like if any one of you were a programmer would you add new skills to the game when you know the skills already live are busted? I should wouldn't cause that would just cause more problems so why should ZOS?

    if thats the case they should postpone everything til the existing stuff is fixed. pressure to release new stuff will always be. im not a programmer, im a customer. they released it, they can fix it. another episode of ESO live(dead) that fails.

    And they will fix it but players crying about wanting new skills isn't helping.

    Also another reason behind no new skills is the DLC it self. They said it will only really be adding is a the thieves guild quest line and a new trial that's it and to players who don't play thieves or play the good guy won't be apart of the thieves guild which means they only be buying a new trial and pretty sure players wont wanna waste 3000 crowns on that so they'll just not buy it.

    Now if the player doesn't buy it and there was a new skill line that means they never be able to use it which means this one player who did buy it will have those skills and if they are broken (most likely would have) they have a unfair advantage against they player who didn't buy it. Which in a nutshell means the thieves guild DLC would have been P2W cause if a player didn't have those skills they would be at a disadvantage against those who did buy it and join the thieves guild.

    How is that different from all the BoP gear found in Orsinium?

    Exactly, point moot.
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  • Kr3do
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    Stikato wrote: »
    OK, now there may be reasons Firor and Co. could not give ETA's on things. Maybe they just don't know yet.

    Then don't do an ESO live! Just the fact that they promoted an event communicating about their game, and they all trotted out there and said basically nothing shows us all how inept their management is. Damn, just say you have to delay it a week or two because you want to be able to tell us something concrete.

    The only thing we got concrete in this patch, is what we AREN'T getting

    We aren't getting new skill lines
    We aren't getting PVP Justice
    We aren't getting Spellcrafting (face it, it's never going to happen)

    All of the "positive" changes:

    Thieves Guild - No ETA
    Dark Brotherhood - No ETA
    Barbershop - No ETA
    Arenas / BGs - No ETA

    Their responses to the problems with PVP equate to me running out onto a freaking six-lane highway with my arms waving about wildly hoping someone stops and helps me. It's embarrassing.

    People have complained about a lack of communication. What this company shows is BAD communication. When they actually talk to us, they say:

    - Let's talk about something, but not really (Wrobel, AOE Caps)
    - We fixed A, B, & C (Not really. Oops, and we broke D. No ETA on the "fix")
    - We cancelled a feature we talk about many times
    - We added a new X to the crown store
    - The game is very successful and wow, what a great 2015
    - And of course... NO ETA

    Amen.
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    ralonasan wrote: »
    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    Wait, so does the CP cap increase with Thieves Guild or with the next DLC after Thieves' Guild?

    After TG, by 51 points.

    wow, that' awful. I wonder what are they thinking. That ppl who are currently at cap will stick around for 4-6 months until they get a raise... by 51?
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I couldn't watch, my head is giving me pain again and everything confuses me. Apart from no skill line did they say anything else?

    They'll be spending a lot of resources into new skins... for you mount, likely some type of useless pet as well.

    Maybe a new dress?
    Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

    What this guy said and what pretty much every one is saying. Why should ZOS add more skills in the game when the ones in the game are imbalanced/broken.

    Well they should stop bringing dlc/pets/mounts and other useless stuff and fix the game first.

    I'm sure putting their full team or the majority of it to work on fixing it for a week or so wouldn't cripple them, then they'll have a stable foundation to release dlc that actually look good and hopefully encourage new people to sub or new players in general.

    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping. Cause here is what I hear when I read a post about wanting new skills "I want a new I win button that can kill in 1 hit cause every one else is using the same 1 shot kill build I'm using".

    So please stop all this crying about new skills cause they will never happen as long as the skills that area already live in the game are imbalanced/broken. Like if any one of you were a programmer would you add new skills to the game when you know the skills already live are busted? I should wouldn't cause that would just cause more problems so why should ZOS?

    if thats the case they should postpone everything til the existing stuff is fixed. pressure to release new stuff will always be. im not a programmer, im a customer. they released it, they can fix it. another episode of ESO live(dead) that fails.

    And they will fix it but players crying about wanting new skills isn't helping.

    Also another reason behind no new skills is the DLC it self. They said it will only really be adding is a the thieves guild quest line and a new trial that's it and to players who don't play thieves or play the good guy won't be apart of the thieves guild which means they only be buying a new trial and pretty sure players wont wanna waste 3000 crowns on that so they'll just not buy it.

    Now if the player doesn't buy it and there was a new skill line that means they never be able to use it which means this one player who did buy it will have those skills and if they are broken (most likely would have) they have a unfair advantage against they player who didn't buy it. Which in a nutshell means the thieves guild DLC would have been P2W cause if a player didn't have those skills they would be at a disadvantage against those who did buy it and join the thieves guild.

    How is that different from all the BoP gear found in Orsinium?

    Cause BoP is hopefully being removed and have equal counter parts (not same exact skills but power wise) in the base game. Plus only like 1 or 2 sets are any good and unlike skills/spells sets can more easily balanced.
  • ralonasan
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I couldn't watch, my head is giving me pain again and everything confuses me. Apart from no skill line did they say anything else?

    They'll be spending a lot of resources into new skins... for you mount, likely some type of useless pet as well.

    Maybe a new dress?
    Seriously how could they add any new skill lines when the ones that are in game are still broken?

    What this guy said and what pretty much every one is saying. Why should ZOS add more skills in the game when the ones in the game are imbalanced/broken.

    Well they should stop bringing dlc/pets/mounts and other useless stuff and fix the game first.

    I'm sure putting their full team or the majority of it to work on fixing it for a week or so wouldn't cripple them, then they'll have a stable foundation to release dlc that actually look good and hopefully encourage new people to sub or new players in general.

    Yes they should stop focusing on pets, mounts, costumes and so on and focus on fixing the skills but players crying about wanting new skills 24/7 really isn't helping. Cause here is what I hear when I read a post about wanting new skills "I want a new I win button that can kill in 1 hit cause every one else is using the same 1 shot kill build I'm using".

    So please stop all this crying about new skills cause they will never happen as long as the skills that area already live in the game are imbalanced/broken. Like if any one of you were a programmer would you add new skills to the game when you know the skills already live are busted? I should wouldn't cause that would just cause more problems so why should ZOS?

    if thats the case they should postpone everything til the existing stuff is fixed. pressure to release new stuff will always be. im not a programmer, im a customer. they released it, they can fix it. another episode of ESO live(dead) that fails.

    And they will fix it but players crying about wanting new skills isn't helping.

    Also another reason behind no new skills is the DLC it self. They said it will only really be adding is a the thieves guild quest line and a new trial that's it and to players who don't play thieves or play the good guy won't be apart of the thieves guild which means they only be buying a new trial and pretty sure players wont wanna waste 3000 crowns on that so they'll just not buy it.

    Now if the player doesn't buy it and there was a new skill line that means they never be able to use it which means this one player who did buy it will have those skills and if they are broken (most likely would have) they have a unfair advantage against they player who didn't buy it. Which in a nutshell means the thieves guild DLC would have been P2W cause if a player didn't have those skills they would be at a disadvantage against those who did buy it and join the thieves guild.

    How is that different from all the BoP gear found in Orsinium?

    Cause BoP is hopefully being removed and have equal counter parts (not same exact skills but power wise) in the base game. Plus only like 1 or 2 sets are any good and unlike skills/spells sets can more easily balanced.

    The argument that they aren't any good, is subjective. The skills that we're not getting could have been subjectively useless too.
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    ☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
    ☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
    ☐ THIS IS P2W!
    ☐ L2P n00b.
    ☐ Where is the LOL button??
    ☐ Fix PvP lag.
    ☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
    ☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
    ☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
    ☐ Natch Potes.
    ☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
    ☐ Race Change ETA?
    ☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
    ☐ Why don't Trials scale?
    ☐ Working as intended.
    ☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
    ☐ When will "thing" be added?
  • Jura23
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    MikeB wrote: »
    Personally I and from what I've read and heard in person most want balance and fixes for what we have now, not more broken skills. Stop drama Queening every thing said/done by ZOS.

    I think ppl would have no problem with no new skills if there was any hope they will fix at least thos we have in the near future. But it doesn't look like they can do that.
    Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU
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