1vX high dmg stamblade (Dual-wield) build question

Godeko · January 2016

Hello guys,

Ive got a question to all theoriecrafters and pro-gamers out there.
My main is a V16 khajiit Stamblade with dual wield/2-h.
My previous build was on max Dmg, meaning:
2 engine guardian
5 pcs Hunding Rage
2 Shadow walker rings
2 agility swords + agility neclace
warrior mundus
full buffed with rally I got to 4k weapon dmg in stealth and 50% crit

I really loved that build and the playstyle way more than 2h/bow or dual-wield/bow so I wanna stick with it.
But since Orsinium I feel weakened in pvp (low cp, but also kinda outdated sets).

Now Im kinda unsure whats a good build I can go:
1. I thought of going critical, meaning:
1.1 Go for daggers instead of swords and shadow mundus and the musthave briarheart.
Now I get to the point where I have dozens of choices. Go 5 briarheart , 4 hunding rage, 3 agility(weapon and neclace) and miss out the engine guardian.
(huuuge crit, but no sustain and it feels wrong to have the 5th hunding rage bonus not in.)
1.2 Stick with engine guardian and kick out hundings rage and go for briarheart instead, take daggers as well and shadow mundus.
(more sustain, but low crit and dmg)
1.3 ??? maybe something with molag kena?
2. Stay with DMG, meaning:
2.1 swords of agility, still warior mundus but molag kena instead of engine guardian? (hundings rage)
2.2 same with briarheart
2.3 ???
As it looks like I really dont know what is the most efficient to build and where too much crit maybe gets maybe useless or less crit with too much damage is invaluable.

So I ask you for some help and maybe some people with more knowledge in mathe than my first semester physic study

RapturousRex · January 2016

Very interested in this.

Septimus_Magna · January 2016

Most stamina builds are running 3x agility, 1x molag kena, 1x blood spawn with 3/4 or 2/5 sets added (note, you loose 1pc on your 2H bar).

Personally I dont think you need to add sets with a lot of weapon dmg is you put 3x gold v16 weapon dmg enchants on your jewelry.

For my stam NB Im currently running with 5x willows path/2x seducer but I keep hearing that the willows 5pc bonus is bugged so I have to figure out a new setup.

CtrlAltDlt · January 2016

Personally I think crit is overrated. I wouldn't build for it because a lot of people run impenetrable gear. Also, damage shields are not criteable so you're handicapped against them. This is just my opinion though, nothing wrong with using hundings though, the 5th bonus is great but as far as mundus stone, serpent or warrior no doubt.

Have you tried 4 morkulden, 5 hundings? Or 4 morkulden, 5 willows path?

Emma_Overload · January 2016

I'm planning a similar build for my Stamcat, but I'm going with Night Mother instead of Hundings for the 4 piece. You don't lose as much Weapon Damage with NM.

Tankqull · January 2016

i´m using depending on my mood
5pieces briar, shieldbreaker or hundings
1kena
1bloodspawn
2endurance rings
agilty neck+2 agilty swords, dagger, maves + 2h axe(abusing the buggy axe dot as long as possible :P)

im not really happy with briarhart+daggers as you rely on crits to deal worthsome dmg at all and if a fight takes some time with 33+% of your time dealing craptastic dmg because of no proc up i´m back to shieldbreaker the 2100dmg are by far more dmg than any other setbonus offers.
with the amount of shields available by everybody

Xeniph · January 2016

x5 Hundings ( Shieldbreker)
x4 Morkuldin ( 1 Kenna/ 1 Bloodspawn) * Use The Kenna/ Bloodspawn if you have maelstrom weapons*
x3 Agility

Generally those are the sets most high end stam folks are wearing. Though there are sets that work nicely besides those two 5 pieces, like Willows for more sustain.

Like Tankqull, I felt Briarthorns proc rate was terrible, even at 90%+ crit.

DieterP · January 2016

With my Stam DK my briarthorns is only down during the 5 second downtime timer. Running only 66% Crit.
Running
5 Briarheart
5 hundings rage
2 agility

Tried 5 essence thief with Briarheart. Now what a joke that 15% proc is on light attacks. Not to mention you don't just gain the proc immediately, but you gotta go stand on a randomly placed AOE to activate it. 9 times out of 10 this proc is in an enemy AOE so it's not visible or just simply in the way of danger. As a melee class having to separate from your target to go pick up your proc and come back is by far hurting maximum dps output. Please don't waste your time trying to obtain this set like I did in vet white gold.

Gilvoth · January 2016

interesting to note:

GreenSoup2HoT · January 2016

I have been running with more sustain then damage and i find it play's out very well. 3k stamina and 1.5k magicka give's me a lot of resource to do what i want.

You just can't jump into to 3 people and expect to drop one then another and so on.

I've had so many experience's where i go to kill one and do but then have 2-3 jump on me and i cannot really kite or avoid all the damage. 1vX is still do-able but it's very hard and you need good terrain to kite with, in a open field it's not that easy.

If you plan on going for high crit, i suggest using shield breaker so you can deal with those player's who cannot be crit. It work's well for me.

The game is about opportunity now. If you fail to see your chance to strike you won't get good result's in this current patch. Nightblade's have become a very in and out play-style in my opinion.
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Also i don't think Briarheart is worth it. Half the time the thing barely proc's. Unless you have a big group of player's you can get caltrop's on, i don't think it's worth it. I spent a lot of time chest farming in Wrothgar for it and was very disappointed with the result's. I'll stick to more sustain, it get's me outta trouble. Sacrificing a little damage for sustain has proven me very worthwhile.

Godeko · January 2016

Hey guys, thanks for your answers.
After buying agility rings and crafting morkuldin I was kinda broke so it took some time to get the mats to upgrade to gold, but I got it and wanted to share the difference in the sets.
So the 2nd one is with 3 agility jewelery 4 morkuldin and 5 hunding.
Both, before and after, are with warrior mundus, but I will probably take weapon dmg enchant on the rings and take the serpent instead.
(no food or drinks or cyrodiil buff):