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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Why is o Hulk o so hard to kill

  • Stravokov
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    Anak14 wrote: »
    Are you serious? You can't kill him? I've probably got 50+ kills on him soloing, zerg v zerg, He's not hard. your build needs improvement. Starting with CP

    i remember the Forum debates we had before the champion system was implemented. people said we would see posts like this... heh, looks like they where right.
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    KillKapps wrote: »
    Every single post in this topic made me literally laugh out loud. Especially the ones from CatchMeTrolling. People who don't understand the game cant make a character work to its full potential. This is hands down the reason why HULK is so good. Then their are people who think they know how to play and decide that they are worse than someone because of some horse *** reason. Enter "CatchMeTrolling" who decided he is just as good as people that know how to play but really he was only good due to his 3 month emperorship that was handed to him by the entire red faction.


    Boo hoo why must you always come off as a prick Lool I've gotten emperor on haderus too, so what's your excuse now? BTW ep are the underdogs in there, try again.
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    LoreRiley wrote: »
    Everyone complains about magic dks but he rarely dies with his taking in zergs..whats his build?
    Xbox NA

    tESO PvP catrrs to those who have X amount of CP, unfortunately this brings no balance to the players. hulk never runs solo i have wiped him a few timew and his group before, its all about CP.

    you want to duel a magic DK? hit up blank26xD in chillrend.

    btw hulk is a major *** talker like the rest of his guild, typical

    Hence Kapps talking ***, even though he quit. And had more cp than the average pvp player

  • KillKapps
    KillKapps
    Hence Kapps talking ***, even though he quit. And had more cp than the average pvp player

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    I would like to point out that I only had about 190 champ points during that time period a week before Imperial City released, which was in mid-October. That gave people 4 months to catch up to me. Before you go and say that this was impossible you need to take people into account such as WillKillair666... who at the time had more champion points than I did, even though he was not a PC transfer.


    Boo hoo why must you always come off as a prick Lool I've gotten emperor on haderus too, so what's your excuse now? BTW ep are the underdogs in there, try again.
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    I would also like to point out that I got emperor on thornblade even though yellows were outnumbered 10:1. That's my excuse now.
  • Jaronking
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    KillKapps wrote: »
    Every single post in this topic made me literally laugh out loud. Especially the ones from CatchMeTrolling. People who don't understand the game cant make a character work to its full potential. This is hands down the reason why HULK is so good. Then their are people who think they know how to play and decide that they are worse than someone because of some horse *** reason. Enter "CatchMeTrolling" who decided he is just as good as people that know how to play but really he was only good due to his 3 month emperorship that was handed to him by the entire red faction.


    Boo hoo why must you always come off as a prick Lool I've gotten emperor on haderus too, so what's your excuse now? BTW ep are the underdogs in there, try again.
    You got Emperor when EP had full population so how were you the underdogs when you were even with everyone else? Not to mentioned you lost it after about hour or two.Very impressive.
    Edited by Jaronking on 17 December 2015 01:26
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    KillKapps wrote: »
    Every single post in this topic made me literally laugh out loud. Especially the ones from CatchMeTrolling. People who don't understand the game cant make a character work to its full potential. This is hands down the reason why HULK is so good. Then their are people who think they know how to play and decide that they are worse than someone because of some horse *** reason. Enter "CatchMeTrolling" who decided he is just as good as people that know how to play but really he was only good due to his 3 month emperorship that was handed to him by the entire red faction.


    Boo hoo why must you always come off as a prick Lool I've gotten emperor on haderus too, so what's your excuse now? BTW ep are the underdogs in there, try again.
    You got Emperor when EP had full population so how were you the underdogs when you were even with everyone else? Not to mentioned you lost it after about hour or two.Very impressive.


    We were not even, and I had emp for 8 and 13 hrs so quit your bs lol I have screenshots so keep up your lies. You're just a pug, shutup before you make yourself sound even more silly
  • KillKapps
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    I would just like to point out that you played in thornblade for 3 months at the AD gates with an entire red zerg. Nuff said.

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    Edited by ZOS_Brett on 17 December 2015 05:55
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    KillKapps wrote: »
    I would just like to point out that you played in thornblade for 3 months at the AD gates with an entire red zerg. Nuff said.

    I would like to point out we also took that server over and kept it that way lol sounds like DC and ad got outplayed and left. The same way ad and DC dominated haderus for a short period on different occasions but it's somewhat even now could've happened in Thornblade. But everyone quit and left, the same thing happened in scourge which is now ep dominated. Good try though

    [Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]
    Edited by ZOS_Brett on 17 December 2015 06:05
  • KillKapps
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    I would like to point out we also took that server over and kept it that way lol sounds like DC and ad got outplayed and left. The same way ad and DC dominated haderus for a short period on different occasions but it's somewhat even now could've happened in Thornblade. But everyone quit and left, the same thing happened in scourge which is now ep dominated. Good try though

    I'm afraid you have mistaken "outplayed" for "outnumbered." Red has never outplayed anyone in any situation. Personally i don't think they have to outplay anyone if they can just bully other factions out with numbers. Its a dumb way to do things but hell, it works. Also, Nothing changed in Thornblade because we wanted it that way. The amount of AP I gained at the AD gates were astronomical. A red has never heard of anything anywhere close to 150k defense tics. Its the fact that you stayed there to get fractions of the AP I would get with multiples of work done. Reds just have to get it through their thick skulls that skilled players never got them anywhere. It's tons of brainless zerglings that get them wins. And before you start saying that I'm whining about getting beaten by reds in the past, I am not whining. I fully understand that zerging in this game is a fully acceptable tactic and until Zennimax actually finds a way to counter it effectively, it will keep happening.

    P.S. Following a giant group of friendlies while "ungrouped" is not playing solo.

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    Edited by ZOS_Brett on 17 December 2015 06:06
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    KillKapps wrote: »
    I'm afraid you have mistaken "outplayed" for "outnumbered." Red has never outplayed anyone in any situation. Personally i don't think they have to outplay anyone if they can just bully other factions out with numbers. Its a dumb way to do things but hell, it works. Also, Nothing changed in Thornblade because we wanted it that way. The amount of AP I gained at the AD gates were astronomical. A red has never heard of anything anywhere close to 150k defense tics. Its the fact that you stayed there to get fractions of the AP I would get with multiples of work done. Reds just have to get it through their thick skulls that skilled players never got them anywhere. It's tons of brainless zerglings that get them wins. And before you start saying that I'm whining about getting beaten by reds in the past, I am not whining. I fully understand that zerging in this game is a fully acceptable tactic and until Zennimax actually finds a way to counter it effectively, it will keep happening.

    P.S. Following a giant group of friendlies while "ungrouped" is not playing solo.

    Dc and ad got outplayed at the start, never recovered reds weren't even on top to start. We forced everyone out, if you think we were just going to pack up and say that's all folks you're delusional. Ep takes over servers, that's what we do. You haven't seen actual zergs and zerg balls, maybe you should actually play again and witness true zergs and their tactics. You guys would've got steam rolled before you could even react.

    And you're silly, solo is solo that's why it's called solo. Can't help who's around or in your alliance. Blah blah reds zerg nonsense, everyone zergs. In every campaign btw...

    [Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]
    Edited by ZOS_Brett on 17 December 2015 06:07
  • Skinzz
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    I ran into a 60+ AD zerg in azuras xb1 na. Got the video on my xb1 feed lol.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • KillKapps
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    Dc and ad got outplayed at the start, never recovered reds weren't even on top to start. We forced everyone out, if you think we were just going to pack up and say that's all folks you're delusional. Ep takes over servers, that's what we do. You haven't seen actual zergs and zerg balls, maybe you should actually play again and witness true zergs and their tactics. You guys would've got steam rolled before you could even react.

    And you're silly, solo is solo that's why it's called solo. Can't help who's around or in your alliance. Blah blah reds zerg nonsense, everyone zergs. In every campaign btw...
    But there you go again mistaking "outplayed" with "outnumbered." You say you "forced everyone out" which is correct but believe me when I tell you its not because you "outplayed" everyone else. Also, I have played this game in and out for almost 2 years now, I have seen zergs, trust me. If you want to say that you outplayed someone, you need to have less numbers and still come out on top. As far as im concerned there isn't enough people on red to form a good enough group to do so. When I say "group" I mean "group" as in sub 20 people. No 40-50 man zergs outnumbering people. When I see a 20 man red group take on and defeat a 40 man zerg, I will start showing some respect but reds have never won anything they can outnumber you in.

    And sure you cant help when your teammates are flocking in your same direction but don't go around flaunting that you are a solo player when you have a faction to back you up at any given moments. When I see the clips of you un-emped in a 1vX of equal or similar levels. Then ill allow you the title of a solo player, but as of now I am not on board with that.

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    Edited by ZOS_Brett on 17 December 2015 06:08
  • KillKapps
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    I ran into a 60+ AD zerg in azuras xb1 na. Got the video on my xb1 feed lol.

    They happen on all sides, and im not denying the fact that AD (my faction) does it. But I don't run around with them on my back, then say that I am a solo player. I try to stray as far as possible from the friendly zerg to maximize my benefit.
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    KillKapps wrote: »
    But there you go again mistaking "outplayed" with "outnumbered." You say you "forced everyone out" which is correct but believe me when I tell you its not because you "outplayed" everyone else. Also, I have played this game in and out for almost 2 years now, I have seen zergs, trust me. If you want to say that you outplayed someone, you need to have less numbers and still come out on top. As far as im concerned there isn't enough people on red to form a good enough group to do so. When I say "group" I mean "group" as in sub 20 people. No 40-50 man zergs outnumbering people. When I see a 20 man red group take on and defeat a 40 man zerg, I will start showing some respect but reds have never won anything they can outnumber you in.

    And sure you cant help when your teammates are flocking in your same direction but don't go around flaunting that you are a solo player when you have a faction to back you up at any given moments. When I see the clips of you un-emped in a 1vX of equal or similar levels. Then ill allow you the title of a solo player, but as of now I am not on board with that.

    We've wiped literally 50+ dc in haderus numerous times loool this red only win with more numbers is rubbish. You haven't seen these zergs, proxy deting, bat swarming, and every aoe they can drop all at once. You seen numbers spread out just trying to get kills, you never see ep using those tactics. People are just bias towards ep, already have a thread about this. You're a shining example.

    I have clips killing multiple people without emp, doesn't mean anything though. Just means they were terrible, you're not going to kill multiple decent people. It's not happening..you're only getting scenarios like that against pve players and the casual pvp player. Definitely not now when people actually know how to play.

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    Edited by ZOS_Brett on 17 December 2015 06:09
  • KillKapps
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    We've wiped literally 50+ dc in haderus numerous times loool this red only win with more numbers is rubbish. You haven't seen these zergs, proxy deting, bat swarming, and every aoe they can drop all at once. You seen numbers spread out just trying to get kills, you never see ep using those tactics. People are just bias towards ep, already have a thread about this. You're a shining example.

    I have clips killing multiple people without emp, doesn't mean anything though. Just means they were terrible, you're not going to kill multiple decent people. It's not happening..you're only getting scenarios like that against pve players and the casual pvp player. Definitely not now when people actually know how to play.
    I could totally understand the idea that I am biased towards reds if I did not have so many friends that are former reds. But when you look at the facts such as the campaign "Scourge" right now. Reds are in dead last only because of the population modifier. They take the whole map during the NA night time and then when prime time comes in to play they get pushed back to their gates. Blue is in first due to *** population, while yellow is right behind because of the work they do with less people. AD and DC own keeps/outposts/scrolls even when they have less numbers, thus giving them more points on the scoreboards. Meanwhile you can look at a campaign like "Azura's Star" and, don't quote me on this because I don't play in that campaign, and see the exact opposite. With all things said, I am not biased towards any one faction. I am just annoyed at the people that say their faction is good for reason that its not. I put myself in underdog situations all the time. I do not like playing on servers 100% dominated by my faction. I am the person that will go to the dead server and light that *** up like a *** Christmas tree. There is nothing more boring than trying to find the fun, so I bring that *** to me.

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    Edited by ZOS_Brett on 17 December 2015 06:10
  • KillKapps
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    Oh! And I'm back sugar ***!
  • Skinzz
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    Yo killkapps i just fought you in azuras. Good stuff with the batswarm/tanking lol
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    KillKapps wrote: »
    Oh! And I'm back sugar ***!

    Well I stop playing in Thornblade a long time ago after imperial city dropped to be specific. I've played outnumbered and with more numbers, stayed in Thornblade for so long because it's where I started and it was consistent fighting you didn't have to go look for it. Nothing but small scale in a way, no keep taking. Plus I had easy ap gains, people still call me a booster till this day.

    One thing you don't realize is I actually don't like having more numbers, thats why I stayed in haderus when we were pushed back to kingscrest and Farragut or whatever for like a month by ad. I didn't quit or swap alliances, more fighting for me.

    Haderus is just now getting back to being competitive. There are good reds, I just hated when people try to act like it isn't or all we do is zerg.


    And good being back, I get to kill you.
  • KillKapps
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Yo killkapps i just fought you in azuras. Good stuff with the batswarm/tanking lol

    Builds not finished yet, I ran out of money mid enchanting and upgrading. still in purple with purple enchants. Just started playing again 2 days ago so good to see new names.
  • Diozaels
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    [/quote]
    I could totally understand the idea that I am biased towards reds if I did not have so many friends that are former reds. But when you look at the facts such as the campaign "Scourge" right now. Reds are in dead last only because of the population modifier. They take the whole map during the NA night time and then when prime time comes in to play they get pushed back to their gates. Blue is in first due to *** population, while yellow is right behind because of the work they do with less people. AD and DC own keeps/outposts/scrolls even when they have less numbers, thus giving them more points on the scoreboards. Meanwhile you can look at a campaign like "Azura's Star" and, don't quote me on this because I don't play in that campaign, and see the exact opposite. With all things said, I am not biased towards any one faction. I am just annoyed at the people that say their faction is good for reason that its not. I put myself in underdog situations all the time. I do not like playing on servers 100% dominated by my faction. I am the person that will go to the dead server and light that *** up like a *** Christmas tree. There is nothing more boring than trying to find the fun, so I bring that *** to me.

    [Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version][/quote]

    You lost all credibility when you claimed blue outnumbered red or yellow. Does it happen? Yes. But not enough to even think that yellow is the true underdog most of the time. This game is truly red vs yellow.
  • Peel_Ya_Cap_517
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    All I know is...

    Hulk won't try to Dragon Leap into MY Keep again

    :expressionless:
    N64 NA EP
  • tist
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    KillKapps wrote: »
    Every single post in this topic made me literally laugh out loud. Especially the ones from CatchMeTrolling. People who don't understand the game cant make a character work to its full potential. This is hands down the reason why HULK is so good. Then their are people who think they know how to play and decide that they are worse than someone because of some horse *** reason. Enter "CatchMeTrolling" who decided he is just as good as people that know how to play but really he was only good due to his 3 month emperorship that was handed to him by the entire red faction.

    LOL
  • zornyan
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    All I know is this is why I left console and moved over to pc, so so much stupidity ....
  • KillKapps
    KillKapps
    Diozaels wrote: »
    I could totally understand the idea that I am biased towards reds if I did not have so many friends that are former reds. But when you look at the facts such as the campaign "Scourge" right now. Reds are in dead last only because of the population modifier. They take the whole map during the NA night time and then when prime time comes in to play they get pushed back to their gates. Blue is in first due to *** population, while yellow is right behind because of the work they do with less people. AD and DC own keeps/outposts/scrolls even when they have less numbers, thus giving them more points on the scoreboards. Meanwhile you can look at a campaign like "Azura's Star" and, don't quote me on this because I don't play in that campaign, and see the exact opposite. With all things said, I am not biased towards any one faction. I am just annoyed at the people that say their faction is good for reason that its not. I put myself in underdog situations all the time. I do not like playing on servers 100% dominated by my faction. I am the person that will go to the dead server and light that *** up like a *** Christmas tree. There is nothing more boring than trying to find the fun, so I bring that *** to me.

    [Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version][/quote]

    You lost all credibility when you claimed blue outnumbered red or yellow. Does it happen? Yes. But not enough to even think that yellow is the true underdog most of the time. This game is truly red vs yellow. [/quote]

    I think you have misread what I posted or I made it a little misleading. I know that blue has the underdog bonus with low population. That's the point I was trying to make.
  • MaxwellC
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    @CatchMeTrolling I see you a lot in Cyrodiil too XD (GT Maxwell). I've killed hulk a few times but both fights resulted in a long drag out, I did kill him 1 on 1 before but I molten stealth hit him (Stam hybrid build).
    The one I have trouble with is toilet he/she is after me but most AD hate me anyway ;P
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  • LoreRiley
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    This thread somehow became a debate
  • Shunravi
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    LoreRiley wrote: »
    This thread somehow became a debate

    welcome to the forum. popcorn?

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    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • LoreRiley
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    LoreRiley wrote: »
    This thread somehow became a debate

    welcome to the forum. popcorn?

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    Sure thanks
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